19:01:14 19:01:15 19:01:22 >> Mayor Mei: MEANWHILE, FOR THOSE NOT ON THE AGENDA AT THIS MOMENT 19:01:25 , PLEASE BOTH TURN OFF YOUR VIDEO AND SILENCE YOUR MICS. THANK YOU 19:01:28 SO VERY MUCH. 19:02:06 AGAIN IF I COULD ASK SO KINDLY, IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING AT THIS 19:02:10 TIME, WE'RE WAITING FOR ONE MORE COUNCILMEMBER, IF YOU COULD PLEASE MUTE YOUR 19:02:13 MICS. THANK YOU. AND TURN OFF THE VIDEO IF YOU'RE NOT 19:02:16 SPEAKING. ASIDE FROM THE COUNCILMEMBERS. 19:02:21 AND OUR CITY CLERK. 19:02:52 >> Ms. Gauthier: MADAME MAYOR, SHE'S JOINING. >> Mayor Mei: GREAT, THANK YOU. 19:02:55 >> Ms. Gauthier: WE HAVE ALL OF THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS. 19:02:58 ? >> Mayor Mei: WE DO. GREAT 19:03:02 . WE HAVE EVERYONE NOW. 19:03:07 AND SO I'D LIKE TO -- WE'RE RETURNING FROM OUR 19:03:10 CLOSED SESSION, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S 19:03:12 ANYTHING -- I BELIEVE THERE'S SOMETHING TO REPORT OUT. 19:03:25 >> Ms. Margolis: I'D LIKE TO REPORT OUT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS DECIDE TODAY 19:03:25 RETAIN BRIAN STOTT AS INTERIM CITY MANAGER UNTIL THEY MAKE A FINAL 19:03:26 APPOINTMENT ON A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER. 19:03:31 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT 19:03:35 , WE WILL RETURN TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED 19:03:39 CITY COUNCIL ITEMS. 19:03:42 AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE CALL TO ORDER. WELCOME TO 19:03:45 THE OCTOBER 5TH REGULARLY SCHEDULED 19:03:49 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT 19:03:52 WE LEAD WITH THE SALUTE TO THE FLAG 19:03:55 FROM COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN. 19:04:06 I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC 19:04:09 FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, 19:04:14 INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY 19:04:17 AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 19:04:25 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. ROLL CALL, PLEASE, MS. GAUTHIER? 19:04:29 >> Ms. Gauthier: YES, MADAME MAYOR. 19:04:34 COUNCILMEMBER COX, HERE. COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, PRESENT 19:04:37 . COUNCILMEMBER KASSAN, HERE. 19:04:42 COUNCILMEMBER JONES, HERE. COUNCILMEMBER KENG, HERE. VICE MAYOR SHAO 19:04:45 , PRESENT. MAYOR MEI, HERE. 19:04:50 >> Mayor Mei: SO I'D LIKE TO SHARE THAT THERE ARE 19:04:53 VACANCIES ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THE CITY CLERK'S 19:04:56 OFFICE ACCEPTS APPLICATIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 19:04:59 WE'LL BE MAKING APPOINTMENTS FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. IF YOU'RE INTEREST 19:05:03 ED IN APPLYING, PLEASE GO TO OUR BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES 19:05:07 PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE AT FREMONT.GOV OR 19:05:10 CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 510- 19:05:13 510-284-4060. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO 19:05:16 PARTICIPATE IN THIS EVENING 'S MEETING PLAY DO SO BY PRESSING THE RAISE 19:05:19 HAND ICON ON THE ZOOM 19:05:24 , OR IF THEY'RE DIALING IN, PRESS STAR 19:05:27 NINE. I'LL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE EACH SECTION OF 19:05:30 THE AGENDA, AND WE'D ASK THAT YOU KINDLY MUTE YOUR 19:05:33 PUBLIC BROADCAST WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING AS IT MAY CAUSE INTERFERENCE 19:05:37 WITH THE SPEAKER SYSTEM. 19:05:41 . EMAIL 19:05:45 S ARE DISTRIBUTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND ARE CONSIDERED PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. 19:05:49 I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THIS MEETING WILL GO UP UNTIL 19:05:52 11:30 IN THE EVENING AT THE LATEST, WE WILL ALLOW FOR 30 19:05:55 MINUTES OF GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, AND WE'LL GO UP TO 3 MINUTES PER 19:05:57 SPEAKER. IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS FOR 19:06:01 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS AFTER THE INITIAL 19:06:04 30 MINUTES, WE WILL ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS AT THE END 19:06:07 OF THE MEETING. I WILL NOW TURN THE MEETING OVER TO OUR 19:06:10 ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, BRIAN STOTT, TO INTRODUCE THE 19:06:14 STAFF AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. >> Mr. Stott: GOOD EVENING 19:06:17 , MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION 19:06:20 , I AM JOINED BY DEBRA MARGOLIS 19:06:23 , OUR INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY, AS WELL AS SUSAN GAUTHIER, 19:06:26 OUR CITY CLERK, AND I DID HAVE -- AS WELL AS OTHER MEMBERS OF THE 19:06:29 OF THE SENIOR STAFF. I DID HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT, AN 19:06:32 EXCITING EVENT WE HAVE COMING UP THIS FRIDAY. I WANTED TO INVITE EVERYONE TO 19:06:35 ATTEND THE GRAND OPENING OF THE DOWNTOWN EVENTS CENTER 19:06:38 AND PLAZA, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE FRIDAY, OCTOBER 8TH STARTING AT 19:06:42 4:30. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU 19:06:45 . 19:06:49 AT THIS TIME, WE'LL BRING THE CONSENT CALENDAR 19:06:52 , CONSENT CALENDAR ARE ITEMS THAT WILL 19:06:55 PASS WITH A SINGLE VOTE AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION WILL STAND. 19:06:58 ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO PULL ANY ITEM 19:07:01 FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR? THEY CAN DO SO BY 19:07:04 EITHER PRESSING RAISE HAND OR STAR NINE. 19:07:09 SEEING NONE, IF THERE IS 19:07:12 ANY REQUEST FROM THE COUNCIL? 19:07:15 TO MOVE THE CALENDAR? >> Councilmember Salwan: MOVE THE CALENDAR 19:07:18 . >> Mayor Mei: MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, SECONDED BY 19:07:21 COUNCILMEMBER SHAO. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. 19:07:27 >> Ms. Gauthier: COUNCILMEMBER COX, AYE. COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN 19:07:30 , AYE. COUNCILMEMBER KASSAN, AYE 19:07:33 . COUNCILMEMBER JONES, AYE. 19:07:36 COUNCILMEMBER KENG, AYE. VICE MAYOR SHAO, 19:07:39 AYE. MAYOR MEI, AYE. 19:07:43 >> Mayor Mei: SO THE CONSENT CALENDAR PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 19:07:46 AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE 19:07:50 INVITE -- I'M GOING TO BE SHARING SOME OF THE CEREMONIAL ITEMS 19:07:53 , AND I'D LIKE TO SHARE THE PROCLAMATION OF THE NATIONAL ENERGY EFFICIENCY DAY 19:07:56 . WHICH IS OCTOBER 6TH, TWEP 19:07:59 2021. 19:08:04 I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL BE ACCEPTING THAT THIS EVENING. 19:08:07 SO I WILL READ THAT FIRST. 19:08:13 WHEREAS, ENERGY EFFICIENCY IS THE CHEAPEST, QUICKEST, AND CLEANEST WAY TO MEET THE CITY OF 19:08:16 FREMONT ENERGY NEEDS, AVOID DANGEROUS POLLUTION, AND REDUCE 19:08:22 UTILITY BILLS FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY; AND WHEREAS, IMPLEMENTING ENERGY 19:08:25 EFFICIENCY AND OTHER CLEAN ENERGY POLICIES AND PROGRAMS CAN 19:08:29 HELP BOOST ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AND JOB CREATION 19:08:35 WHILE CONTINUING TO MOVE THE CITY OF FREMONT TOWARD A 19:08:41 SUSTAINABLE FUTURE; AND WHEREAS, SMARTER ENERGY USE REDUCES THE AMOUNT 19:08:44 OF ELECTRICITY NEEDED TO POWER OUR LIVES, WHICH HELPS 19:08:47 AVOID POWER PLANT EMISSIONS THAT CAN HARM OUR HEALTH, POLLUTE OUR 19:08:50 AIR, AND WARM OUR CLIMATE; AND 19:08:54 WHEREAS, CUTTING ENERGY WASTE SAVES U.S. HOUSEHOLDS BILLIONS 19:08:57 OF DOLLARS ON THEIR UTILITY BILLS EVERY YEAR, UP TO $500 PER 19:09:01 HOUSEHOLD FROM APPLIANCE 19:09:04 EFFICIENCY STANDARDS ALONE; AND WHEREAS, INCREASING THE MINIMUM 19:09:13 LEVELS OF EFFICIENCY FOR NEW 19:09:17 BUILDINGS THROUGH ADOPTION OF A STRONG CALIFORNIA ENERGY CODE CAN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE UTILITY 19:09:22 COSTS AND CREATE NEW JOBS; AND WHEREAS, OVER 4,000 FREMONT RESIDENTS HAVE PARTICIPATED IN 19:09:27 REGIONAL ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAMS OFFERED BY THE BAY AREA REGIONAL ENERGY NETWORK 19:09:30 (BAYREN), EAST BAY COMMUNITY ENERGY (EBCE), AND PACIFIC GAS & 19:09:36 ELECTRIC COMPANY (PG&E), SAVING 1.4 MILLION KILOWATT-HOURS OF 19:09:39 ELECTRICITY AND 50,000 THERMS OF 19:09:43 GAS; AND WHEREAS, A NATIONWIDE 19:09:46 NETWORK OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY 19:09:49 GROUPS AND PARTNERS HAS DESIGNATED THE FIRST WEDNESDAY 19:09:53 IN OCTOBER AS NATIONAL ANNUAL ENERGY EFFICIENCY DAY; AND 19:09:59 WHEREAS, TOGETHER WE CAN CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR 19:10:03 SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS BY LEARNING MORE ABOUT ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND PRACTICING 19:10:07 SMARTER ENERGY USE IN OUR DAILY 19:10:12 LIVES. NOW, THEREFORE, THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF FREMONT, HEREBY 19:10:15 PROCLAIM THE FIRST WEDNESDAY IN OCTOBER AS “ENERGY EFFICIENCY DAY” IN THE CITY OF FREMONT 19:10:19 AND URGE CITIZENS TO JOIN US IN SUPPORTING OUR CLEAN ENERGY 19:10:23 GOALS AND MOVING TOWARD MORE 19:10:27 ENERGY EFFICIENCY NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. 19:10:32 AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THIS EVENING JENNIFER 19:10:35 WEST FROM STOPWASTE, WHO WILL BE JOIN 19:10:38 ING US AND WILL ACCEPT THIS 19:10:40 AND SAY A FEW WORDS. WELCOME, JENNIFER. 19:10:43 >> THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? >> Mayor Mei: YES. 19:10:46 >> OKAY, GREAT. I WANTED TO 19:10:50 SAY THANK YOU TO MAYOR MEI AND COUNCILMEMBERS 19:10:53 THIS EVENING. SAVE MONEY, CUT POLLUTION, 19:10:56 CREATE JOBS. IN CELEBRATION OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY 19:11:00 DAY, I'M GLAD TO ADDRESS THE FREMONT CITY 19:11:07 COUNCIL THIS EVENING. MY NAME IS JENNIFER WEST, AND I WORK FOR 19:11:11 STOPWASTE, A GOVERNMENT AGENCY SERVING FREMONT, THE COUNTY 19:11:14 OF ALAMEDA, AND ALL OF THE OTHER CITIES IN ALAMEDA COUNTY 19:11:17 . STOPWASTE SI PORTS OUR LOCAL 19:11:20 GOVERNMENT IN REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS 19:11:24 THROUGH EFFICIENT USE OF RESOURCES. THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS TO REDUCE OUR 19:11:27 EMISSIONS. IT CAN LOOK LIKE PROPER SORTING AND RECYCLE 19:11:30 ING BY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. IT LOOKS LIKE INCREASED 19:11:33 USE OF COMPOST IN OUR LANDSCAPES. REDUCED 19:11:37 FOOD WASTE IN OUR SCHOOLS AND HOMES. ALONG WITH INCREASED 19:11:40 DONATIONS OF EXCESS FOOD. AND INCREASING 19:11:44 OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN OUR BUILDINGS. 19:11:47 WHETHER THEY'RE BUILDINGS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY, BUSINESSES 19:11:50 , OR HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITIES. ENERGY EE FISH SEAL 19:11:54 EFFICIENCY IS AN IMPORTANT 19:11:57 LEG ON THE THREE LEGGED STOOL THAT IS 19:12:01 DECARBONIZATION OF OUR BUILDINGS. ENERGY EFFICIENCY WORKS TOGETHER WITH 19:12:05 SECURING A CLEAN ELECTRICITY SOURCE THROUGH EAST BAY 19:12:07 COMMUNITY ENERGY, AND THEN SWITCHING ALL FOSSIL 19:12:11 GAS USES TO THAT CLEAN ELECTRICITY. 19:12:14 WITHOUT ENERGY EFFICIENCY, WE USE MORE ELECTRICITY THAN 19:12:17 NEEDED AND COULD PUT A GREATER DEMAND ON THE GRID 19:12:20 THAN NECESSARY, CAUSING EX- 19:12:24 EXPENSIVE 19:12:27 INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN. ONE EXAMPLE I'LL HIGHLIGHT IS 19:12:30 INSTALLING HEAT PUMP WATER HEETD HEATERS 19:12:34 INSTEAD OF FOSSIL GAS WATER HEATERS. THIS IS ONE WAY WE 19:12:37 CAN INCREASE EFFICIENCY AND ALSO MOVE AWAY FROM THE POLLUTION CAUS 19:12:40 ED BY FOSSIL FUELS. WITH EAST BAY COMMUNITY ENERGY, OUR 19:12:43 PARTNER, PROVIDING CLEANER AND GREENER ELECTRICITY 19:12:46 , THESE SUPER EFFICIENT APPLIANCES ARE TOOLS WE NEED TO 19:12:50 COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE AS THEY ARE THREE AND FOUR TIMES 19:12:53 AS EFFICIENT AS THE GAS ALTERNATIVES. 19:12:57 WE ARE WORKING WITH MANUFACTURERS, DISTRIBUTORS 19:13:00 , AND LOCAL CONTRACTORS TO MAKE SURE 19:13:03 THEY'RE TRAINED AND READY TO INSTALL HEAT PUMP WATER HEATER 19:13:06 S IN OUR HOMES, WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY EDUCATING 19:13:10 RESIDENTS ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF THESE APPLIANCES. 19:13:15 STOPWASTE IS PART OF A LARGER REGIONAL ORGANIZATION ALREADY MENTIONED, 19:13:18 THE BAY AREA REGIONAL ENERGY NETWORK, OR 19:13:21 R 19:13:25 BAREN. 19:13:28 ASSISTING RESIDENTS, MUNICIPALITIES 19:13:32 , PUTTING IN PLACE THE ENERGY EFFICIENT SYSTEMS WE NEED TO MEET OUR STATE 19:13:35 'S AMBITIOUS GOALS, AND IN FREMONT, THAT TRANSLATES 19:13:38 TO ALMOST 400 HOME ENERGY SCORES 19:13:41 CONDUCTED WITH NEARLY HALF OF THOSE 19:13:44 THIS YEAR, OVER 800 HOME 19:13:48 PLUS MEASURES INSTALLED FOR A TOTAL OF 19:13:51 INCENTIVES SPENT OF OVER $350,000. 19:13:56 SINCE 2015, B 19:13:59 AYREN HAS GIVEN UPGRADES IN 19:14:02 MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS AS WELL WITH FREMONT HAVING 19:14:05 400 UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN UPGRADED WITH A TOTAL REBATE 19:14:08 AMOUNT OF $300,000, WHICH COVERS MORE THAN HALF 19:14:12 OF THE PROJECT'S TOTAL COSTS. 19:14:15 COMBINED, ALL OF THESE MEASURES ADD UP TO TAKING 19:14:18 83 CARS OFF THE ROAD EACH YEAR 19:14:22 . THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TO CELEBRATE THE CITY OF 19:14:25 FREMONT, FOR RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANT ROLE THAT ENERGY EFFICIENCY PLAYS IN 19:14:28 REACHING OUR GOALS OF CLEANER AREA 19:14:30 AND A HEALTHY PLANET FOR EVERYONE. THANK YOU. 19:14:37 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. REALLY APPRECIATE, 19:14:40 JENNIFER, YOU FOR JOINING US AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE 19:14:44 OUR VISION AND THAT'S SOMETHING 19:14:47 OUR CITY HAS RECOGNIZED, AND I HAVE TO THANK OUR 19:14:50 COMMUNITY MEMBERS, OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS SUCH AS 19:14:55 STOPWASTE AND EAST BAY COMMUNITY ENERGY AND ALL THOSE 19:14:58 OTHERS WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED BUT ALSO STRONGLY WANT TO THANK OUR 19:15:01 STAFF AND TEAM. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY RECENTLY 19:15:04 OUR CITY 19:15:08 WAS RECOGNIZED FOR ITS LEADERSHIP IN ADDRESSING A LOT OF THESE 19:15:11 CLIMATE INITIATIVES. SO I'M SO DELIGHTED TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH 19:15:15 THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE 19:15:18 WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE 19:15:21 SIX AWARDS AT THE -- MOST RECENTLY THE CALIFORNIA CITIES, 19:15:23 AND IN FACT WE WERE THE LARGEST CITY TO RECEIVE THE 19:15:27 PLATINUM AWARD SO FAR. AND SO 19:15:30 THIS IS SOMETHING WE ASPIRE TO AND HOPE TO CONTINUE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 19:15:33 THANK YOU. NEXT I HAVE ON THE 19:15:36 AGENDA IS A 19:15:39 RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT THE AFGHAN REFUGEES AND THE PEOPLE 19:15:43 O 19:15:47 OF AFGHANISTAN. I'D LIKE TO SHARE THAT WITH 19:15:50 ALL OF YOU. 19:15:54 WHEREAS, IN FEBRUARY 2020, THE AFGHAN TALIBAN SIGNED A PEACE 19:16:01 AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED STATES (“US”) AHEAD OF A PROPOSED 19:16:04 WITHDRAWAL OF US TROOPS, AND IN APRIL 2021, PRESIDENT BIDEN ANNOUNCED THAT US MILITARY 19:16:07 FORCES WOULD LEAVE AFGHANISTAN 19:16:12 BY SEPTEMBER 11, 2021 AFTER A 20-YEAR CONFLICT; AND WHEREAS, 19:16:15 THE TALIBAN RAMPED UP ATTACKS ON AFGHAN NATIONAL DEFENSE AND 19:16:21 SECURITY FORCES BASES AND OUTPOSTS, AND ON AUGUST 15, 2021, 19:16:24 TALIBAN FIGHTERS ENTERED 19:16:31 THE CAPITAL, LEADING AFGHAN PRESIDENT ASHRAF GHANI TO FLEE THE COUNTRY AND THE AFGHAN 19:16:34 GOVERNMENT TO COLLAPSE; AND WHEREAS, THE ONGOING UNCERTAINTY 19:16:37 AND VIOLENCE IN AFGHANISTAN AND THE TAKEOVER OF THE AFGHAN 19:16:41 GOVERNMENT BY THE TALIBAN HAS CREATED A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS, WITH RAPIDLY DETERIORATING HUMAN 19:16:47 RIGHTS AND REDUCTIONS IN SAFETY PARTICULARLY FOR VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS; 19:16:51 AND WHEREAS, MANY AFGHAN CITIZENS, GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, INTERPRETERS, TRANSLATORS 19:16:59 AND AFGHAN NATIONAL DEFENSE AND SECURITY FORCES PERSONNEL WHO 19:17:02 SUPPORTED OUR SERVICE MEMBERS WHILE THEY WERE SERVING IN AFGHANISTAN NOW FIND THEIR LIVES 19:17:06 AND THEIR FAMILIES' LIVES IN JEOPARDY UNDER TALIBAN RULE; AND 19:17:10 WHEREAS, REFUGEES AND THEIR FAMILIES FACE A MULTITUDE OF 19:17:15 CHALLENGES WHEN ARRIVING IN THE UNITED STATES AND TRANSITIONING 19:17:20 TO A NEW LIFE, INCLUDING BUT NOT 19:17:23 LIMITED TO; RESETTLEMENT, LANGUAGE BARRIERS, 19:17:27 FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, ACCESSING EDUCATION, FINDING WORK AND IMMIGRATION STATUS; 19:17:32 AND WHEREAS. THE CITY OF FREMONT, HOME TO ONE 19:17:35 OF THE LARGEST AFGHAN COMMUNITIES IN THE 19:17:38 UNITED STATES ESTABLISHED THE AFGHAN REFUGEE 19:17:41 HELP FUND TO SUPPORT REFUGEES IN COORDINATION WITH LOCAL 19:17:45 NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, FOR NEEDS SUCH AS HOUSING, FOOD, 19:17:50 CLOTHING, AND OTHER ITEMS OR SERVICES, AS THEY ARE EXPECTED TO ARRIVE IN THE BAY AREA. NOW, 19:17:53 THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, THE CITY OF FREMONT URGES OUR STATE AND FEDERAL LEADERS TO ACT 19:17:57 IMMEDIATELY AND WITH DETERMINATION, AND RIGHTFULLY 19:18:01 BRING AT-RISK AND VULNERABLE AFGHAN PEOPLES AND THEIR 19:18:06 FAMILIES TO THE UNITED STATES FOR SAFETY 19:18:09 AND PROSPERITY AND BE AFFORDED FULL BENEFITS INCLUDING WAIVER OF APPLICATION AND FILING 19:18:13 FEES, TO TRANSITION INTO AMERICAN LIFE; AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, THE CITY 19:18:17 OF FREMONT SUPPORTS AND WELCOMES 19:18:23 AFGHANISTAN INTO OUR COMMUNITY, REFUGEES FROM AFGHANISTAN 19:18:27 INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND CALLS UPON RESIDENTS, COMMUNITY LEADER 19:18:30 S, BUSINESSES, FAITH-BASED 19:18:33 ORGANIZATIONS, AND COMMUNITY- BASED ORGANIZATIONS TO WELCOME AND SUPPORT THESE AFGHAN 19:18:38 FAMILIES TO ACHIEVE THEIR INHERENT RIGHT TO LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. 19:18:45 SO I'D LIKE TO INVITE RONA POPAL, WHO IS EXECUTIVE 19:18:49 DIRECTOR OF THE AFGHAN COALITION, WHO WILL 19:18:51 ACCEPT AND SHARE SOME COMMENTS. AND I HAVE SOME COMMENTS TO SHARE 19:18:55 AFTERWARDS TOO. SO THANK YOU. 19:18:59 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR LILY MEI, AND THE 19:19:03 CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 19:19:06 THE AFGHAN COALITION AND AFGHAN COMMUNITY VERY MUCH APPRECIATED 19:19:10 TO SEE CITY OF FREMONT ALWAYS BEEN SUPPORT 19:19:13 ING THE AFGHAN COMMUNITY, AND THEY 19:19:17 THEY'RE ALWAYS CELEBRATING DIVERSITY 19:19:20 IN THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY. AND I'M SURE WITH THIS 19:19:23 RESOLUTION, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH 19:19:27 CITY AND AFGHAN COMMUNITIES SO WE CAN WELCOME THE 19:19:31 AFGHAN 19:19:33 NEW ARRIVE REFUGEES. THANK YOU. 19:19:37 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. I WANTED TO SHARE A COUPLE 19:19:40 COMMENTS WITH THE COMMUNITY. I'M TRULY PROUD THAT OUR 19:19:43 COUNCIL TOOK PROMPT ACTION TO PUBLICLY 19:19:46 SUPPORT THE HUMANITARIAN EFFORT IN 19:19:49 AFGHANISTAN TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING REFUGE FOLLOWING THE TALIBAN 19:19:52 'S SEIZURE OF POWER. HAVING ONE OF THE LARGEST 19:19:56 COMMUNITIES, WE KNOW AND KNEW THAT OUR COMMUNITY WOULD IMMEDIATELY 19:20:00 ASK US FOR HOW WE COULD HELP, AND SO 19:20:03 THAT'S WHY WE LAUNCHED THE 19:20:06 AFGHAN REFUGEE HELP FUND. AND REALLY 19:20:10 WANT TO THANK THE HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT FOR THEIR HELP 19:20:13 IN DOING SO IN MID AUGUST 19:20:16 . [RECORDING STOPPED] >> Mayor Mei: THE FUNDRAISING 19:20:20 EFFORTS RECEIVED EARLY ATTENTION AND WE WERE HIGHLIGHTED 19:20:23 IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES," AND TO DATE, WITH THE HELP OF 19:20:26 OUR COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORING CITIES, NEWARK 19:20:29 , UNION CITY AND HAYWARD, THE CITY OF 19:20:32 FREMONT HAS RAISED OVER 19:20:39 $252,000, AND ALMOST 1,000 DONORS FROM 40 STATES HAVE 19:20:42 HELPED SUPPORT THIS. MANY HAVE MADE 19:20:46 DONATIONS IN THE NAME OF FRIENDS OR LOVED ONES WHO ARE STILL TRYING 19:20:49 TO LEAVE. THEIR STORIES 19:20:52 ARE QUITE TOUCHING AND HAVE MOTIVATED THE STAFF 19:20:55 AND ALL OF US TO PRESS FORWARD WITH OUR EFFORTS. OUR 19:20:59 HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY WORKING 19:21:02 WITH RESETTLEMENT AGENCIES AND AFGHAN- 19:21:06 AFFILIATED NON-PROFITS, INCLUDING OUR LONG TIME 19:21:08 PARTNER, THE AFGHAN COALITION, TO KEEP ABREAST OF THE ISSUES. 19:21:12 AS A RESULT, THE CITY HAS SHARED THESE PRIORITIES WITH LOCAL, STATE AND 19:21:15 FEDERAL LEADERS. THE CITY IS SPECIFICALLY WORKING 19:21:19 WITH SOME OF THE EFFORTS TO 19:21:21 SUPPORT WAIVER OF FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPLICATION 19:21:25 PROCESS TO COME TO THE U.S. FOR THIS EMERGENCY HUMANITARIAN 19:21:28 EFFORT, AND ESPECIALLY 19:21:31 WE SENT LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND OUR 19:21:34 FULL SUPPORT IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH SENATORS 19:21:38 PADILLA, BLUE 19:21:41 BLUMENTHAL 19:21:44 AND IT'S ALSO SUPPORTED BY SENATOR FEINSTEIN. I 19:21:47 WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW I HAD A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY AS I 19:21:49 SIT ON THE U.S. CONFERENCE OF MAYORS AND WE HAD THIS 19:21:52 CONVERSATION WITH MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES IN THE LEADERSHIP TEAM THIS PAST WEEKEND, 19:21:56 AND IN FACT, NOT ONLY WAS I ABLE TO TALK WITH MY 19:21:59 FELLOW MAYORS, BUT I WAS ABLE TO PLEAD THIS DIRECTLY WITH 19:22:03 SECRETARY MY YOUR 19:22:07 MIYORK 19:22:10 A, TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE WHITE HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES 19:22:13 AS WELL AS THE STATE DEPARTMENT ON HOW 19:22:16 IMPORTANT IT IS. AND I THINK WHAT IT SPEAKS 19:22:20 TO, AND I'M REALLY HUMBLED THAT THE SECRETARY CAME 19:22:23 TO TALK TO ME AFTERWARDS PERSONALLY, IS THAT 19:22:30 HE COULD REALLY UNDERSTAND FROM OUR DISCUSSIONS, HOW CRITICAL THE 19:22:33 NEEDS ARE. SO MANY RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY 19:22:36 THEMSELVES HAVE STORIES WHERE THEY'RE 19:22:40 EITHER 19:22:43 THEIR CHILDREN OR DIRECTLY EXPERIENCED THE IMMIGRANT TRANSITION TO THE 19:22:46 UNITED STATES, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH 19:22:51 THOSE WHO HAVE -- 19:22:54 THE JAPANESE, THE CHINESE, SO MANY DIFFERENT GROUPS. AND 19:22:58 KNOWING THIS AND THE CHALLENGES WITH THIS JOURNEY, 19:23:02 AND I PERSONALLY HAVING HEARD SO MANY OF THE MESSAGES WHEN PEOPLE 19:23:05 ARE ASKING US FOR SUPPORT, I 19:23:08 THINK THAT TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS HOW 19:23:12 IMPEDING IT IS TO HAVE -- TO MAKE A 19:23:15 CHOICE ON WHEN IT COMES TO FILING FEES AND THE LEGAL FEES, WHO 19:23:18 DO YOU CHOOSE, HOW CAN YOU CHOOSE ONE OF YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS 19:23:21 OVER ANOTHER, AND SO 19:23:25 I APPRECIATE THAT SECRETARY MAYOR 19:23:29 MAYORKAS, AS THE SON OF IMMIGRANTS, 19:23:32 COULD REALLY UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO 19:23:36 CONTINUING TO AMPLIFY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE CONTINUING TO SEE 19:23:39 IN TERMS OF THE BILLS AND LEGISLATION AND HOPEFULLY 19:23:42 BIPARTISAN SUPPORT ON THIS UNDERSTANDING. SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS 19:23:45 THAT THE CITY HAS JUST STARTED THIS PROCESS OF GIVING OUT OUR 19:23:49 FUNDS, AND WE ASK ORGANIZATIONS TO PLEASE VISIT OUR 19:23:52 WEBPAGE AT FREMONT.GOV 19:23:58 , IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A DONATION OR REQUEST THE FUNDS. 19:24:01 I WANT TO THANK, AGAIN, RONA POPAL FOR HELPING ME AND THE CITY AND 19:24:04 SO MANY OTHERS UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF THIS WHEN WE REACH 19:24:08 ED OUT EARLY ON, 19:24:11 TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH THE 19:24:15 AFGHAN DIASPORA HERE. AND I HOPE THAT THIS 19:24:17 WILL HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH AWARENESS OF THIS RESOLUTION, AND 19:24:21 IT'S JUST ONE OF MANY STEPS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO THANK YOU AGAIN, 19:24:24 RONA, AND TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE HELPING WITH THIS. 19:24:27 MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND I 19:24:30 LOOK FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT AND WELCOME THOSE 19:24:34 WHO DESERVE THAT SAFETY 19:24:37 AN SANCTITY OF LIFE 19:24:40 . >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 19:24:45 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. 19:24:48 NEXT, WE'LL HAVE OUR ORAL COMMUNICATIONS, 19:24:51 AND THOSE ARE FOR PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM 19:24:54 THAT'S NOT AGENDIZED THIS EVENING. AND I SEE 19:24:57 THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE HANDS THAT ARE RAISED AT THIS TIME. 19:25:04 THIS IS FOR AGAIN ITEMS NOT SCHEDULED THIS EVENING. THERE'S 19:25:07 ONE ITEM SCHEDULED AND YOU WILL SPEAK AT THAT TIME 19:25:10 . COULD WE PLEASE CALL THE SPEERKS 19:25:14 SPEAKERS? ALSO AGAIN, COMMUNICATIONS 19:25:17 RECEIVED VIA EMAIL ARE PLACED 19:25:21 ON FILE AND CONSIDERED PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. WE'LL 19:25:24 BEGIN FIRST WITH MARY. WELL 19:25:27 WELCOME, MARY. 19:25:37 MOWRY, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. IF YOU COULD UNMUTE 19:25:41 ? 19:25:47 >> I'M NOT SURE IF I'M THE MARY BEING REFERRED TO. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR 19:25:50 MARY WILLIAMS? >> Mayor Mei: YOU'RE THE MARY WE UNMUTED. 19:25:52 >> OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. 19:25:55 I WANTED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE 19:25:58 MEASURE FOR THE -- I DON'T HAVE THE ITEM, I THINK 19:26:01 IT'S ITEM 5A. >> Mayor Mei: OKAY, MOWRY, I'M SORRY, 19:26:04 MARY, WE'LL 19:26:07 CALL YOU AT THAT TIME. THIS IS FOR ITEMS THAT 19:26:10 ARE NOT AGENDIZED. THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE'LL CALL 19:26:14 YOU AT THAT TIME. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS PUR 19:26:17 USHOTHAM. IF YOU COULD 19:26:20 UNMUTE? 19:26:31 WELCOME. >> HI. GOOD EVENING. 19:26:36 THIS IS REGARDING THE COUNCIL DECISION ON 19:26:40 -- 19:26:44 21 -- PARKWAY BETWEEN WASHINGTON BOULEVARD AND 19:26:47 AND -- ROAD, WHICH IS REPLACING THE -- 19:26:52 VISION ZERO WITH A NEW PROPOSAL THAT NARROWS 19:26:56 THE -- LANES 19:26:59 -- BIKE LANE. I WANTED 19:27:02 TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M HAPPY WITH THE 19:27:05 CURRENT PROPOSAL AS IT MAKES SAFETY 19:27:09 -- ON THIS STRETCH OF THE ROAD. WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THIS 19:27:13 IS -- PROPOSAL FROM CITY OF FREMONT WHICH IS ELEVATING 19:27:16 ALREADY EXISTING SAFETY ISSUES ON THIS STRETCH OF THE ROAD. 19:27:20 BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE, WE INVITE YOU TO VISIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD 19:27:24 AND SEE THE STREET TO REALIZE HOW IT IS DIFFERENT COMPARED TO 19:27:27 OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. WE TRULY HOPE THAT WOULD 19:27:30 CHANGE YOUR MIND AND HELP TO -- AND GO 19:27:33 FOR SAFER MEASURES ON THIS ROAD. THANK YOU 19:27:36 IN ADVANCE. >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU 19:27:40 FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT SPEAKER IS JOHN 19:27:46 JOHN HINDS. WELCOME, MR. HINDS. >> HELLO, EVERYONE. 19:27:51 FREMONT'S MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ARE NOT PAID VERY WELL FOR 19:27:54 THE WORK THEY DO. THAT'S PARTLY BECAUSE THE JOB 19:27:57 S ARE DEFINED AS PART-TIME AND THAT MUCH IS A GOOD 19:28:01 THING. IT FORCES YOU TO KEEP AT LEAST ONE FOOT IN THE 19:28:04 REAL WORLD WITH THE REST OF US HOLDING 19:28:07 DOWN A JOB, RUNNING A BUSINESS OR RAISING A FAMILY, AND IT MEANS THAT 19:28:10 FEWER OF YOU WILL HAVE CHOSEN ALREADY TO MAKE POLITICS 19:28:14 A CAREER AS HAPPENS IN CITYS THAT MAKE THESE JOBS 19:28:17 FULL TIME. IN CONTRAST, SOME 19:28:21 FREMONT'S TOP LEVEL STAFF ARE VERY GENEROUS 19:28:24 LY PAID. AS BECAME SO EVIDENT IN THE LAST 19:28:27 FEW DAYS. WHEN YOU TRY TO COMPARE THESE STAFF JOBS 19:28:30 TO WORK IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO LOOK 19:28:33 AT HOW MANY PEOPLE WORK FOR THEM OR HOW LARGE A BUDGET THEY 19:28:37 OVERSEE. THESE JOBS DO NOT HAVE 19:28:40 THE SAME PRESSURE TO PRODUCE, TO DELIVER OR TO GROW 19:28:43 AS THEY WOULD IN A PRIVATE COMPANY. THEY ARE GENEROUSLY PAID. 19:28:47 IT IS PERHAPS BECAUSE OF THIS IMBALANCE IN PAY 19:28:50 THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TENDED TO RELY ON STAFF SO HEAVILY. 19:28:54 AS IF TO SAY, WELL, THEY'RE BEING PAID FOR THIS, MIGHT AS WELL LEAVE TO 19:28:57 THEM. BUT THIS LEADS TO A PATTERN IN WHICH TIME AFTER 19:29:00 TIME, STAFF PUTS A SINGLE OPTION 19:29:03 IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL FOR A YES OR NO VOTE, AND 19:29:07 IF THE COUNCIL ASKS FOR A REVISION OR ADDITIONAL OPTIONS 19:29:10 , IT'S TREATED AS IF THEY'RE BEING BIG MEAN 19:29:13 IES RATHER THAN JUST THE REGULAR ORDER OF BUSINESS WHEN 19:29:17 YOU SHOW -- TO YOUR BOSS AND YOUR BOSS TELLS YOU 19:29:19 TO DO IT OVER. THAT'S WHAT ALWAYS HAPPENS TO ME. 19:29:22 THIS PATTERN ALSO MEANS THAT WHOEVER DOES PREPARE THAT ONE OPTION IS EFFECTIVELY 19:29:25 STEERING THE COUNCIL TOWARD A CHOICE THAT THEY PREFER. 19:29:29 WHETHER THAT'S JUST THEIR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT OR WHATEVER IS 19:29:33 MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM, WHATEVER FITS BEST WITH THEIR 19:29:36 CAREER GOALS OR WHATEVER FITS THEIR OWN PRIVATE TASTES, 19:29:39 OR ALL OF THE ABOVE. THE PROBLEM GETS A LITTLE WORSE WHEN 19:29:42 STAFF MANAGES TO LINE UP THEIR OWN FUNDING, LIKE 19:29:45 THROUGH A GRANT. THIS MAKES THE COUNCIL HAPPY, NATURALLY 19:29:48 , BECAUSE IT TAKES SOME PRESSURE OFF THE GENERAL FUND, BUT 19:29:51 THE GRANT MONEY NOW HAS TO BE SPENT UNDER THE 19:29:55 TERMS OF THE GRANT, AND THE CITY'S DIRECTION ENDS UP 19:29:58 BEING SET BY SOMEONE WHO NOT ONLY WASN'T ELECTED HERE 19:30:01 AND DOESN'T LIVE HERE, BUT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A CONNECTION TO 19:30:04 THE CITY, EXCEPT THAT THEY DANGLE 19:30:07 THE PERSON IN FRONT OF US. AS THE COUNCIL GOES THROUGH THE WORK 19:30:10 OF FILLING THE OPEN POSITION, PLEASE CONSIDER 19:30:13 ALSO A MUCH MORE 19:30:16 OVERHAUL OF TOP LEVEL STAFF POSITIONS. OR AT THE VERY LEAST, SOME NEW 19:30:20 EXPECTATIONS. THANK YOU. 19:30:24 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS 19:30:27 C 19:30:31 CASEY FARMER. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. 19:30:34 GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CASEY FARMER, AND 19:30:37 I SERVE AS THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR ALAMEDA COUNTY 19:30:41 'S 2021 REDISTRICTING EFFORT. I 19:30:44 AM AWARE THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY WITH 19:30:47 YOUR CITY'S REDISTRICTING EFFORT IN THE GOOD HANDS 19:30:50 OF AMANDA 19:30:54 GAYO, AND I'M JUST MAKING SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THE COUNTY'S 19:30:57 EFFORT, WHICH WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR FOR 19:31:00 ITS SUPERVISORI 19:31:03 AL DISTRICTS, AND WE'RE SEEKING PUBLIC INPUT AND PARTICIPATION 19:31:07 AS I KNOW YOU ARE AS WELL. FROM OUR CENSUS 2020, WHICH 19:31:11 WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL, OUR COUNTY GREW BY 19:31:14 11.5% IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND 19:31:20 SO WE HAVE LAUNCHED OUR PROCESS THROUGH A WEBSITE WHICH HAS A LOT 19:31:23 MORE INFORMATION THAN I'M ABLE TO PROVIDE IN A FEW MINUTES 19:31:26 HERE, INCLUDING OUR PUBLIC 19:31:29 HEARING SCHEDULE, MULTILINGUAL MATERIALS, A SHORT AND 19:31:32 SHAREABLE VIDEO, OUR CONTACT INFORMATION, 19:31:35 AND OUR ONLINE MAPPING TOOL WHICH ENABLE 19:31:39 S MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO DRAW THEIR COMMUNITIES 19:31:42 AND/OR TO PROPOSE DISTRICT MAPS TO THE SUPERVISORS. 19:31:46 OUR NEXT HEARING IS ON OCTOBER 12TH, NEXT 19:31:49 TUESDAY , AT 12:00 NOON VIA ZOOM, AND SOME 19:31:53 OF THE QUESTIONS WE'RE ASKING THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN ON 19:31:56 ARE, WHERE IS YOUR COMMUNITY LOCATED, AND TO BE SPECIFIC IN 19:31:59 THAT GEOGRAPHY, WHAT CONNECTS 19:32:03 YOUR COMMUNITY ECONOMICALLY, SOCIALLY OR CULTURALLY, 19:32:06 WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOUR COMMUNITY, SUCH AS GOALS 19:32:09 FOR THE FUTURE OR SHARED CHALLENGES, 19:32:12 WHAT COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST NEARBY WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE CONJOIN 19:32:15 ED WITH IN A SUPERVIS 19:32:19 ORIAL DISTRICT OR WOULD YOU NOT LIKE TO BE COMBINED 19:32:22 WITH AND WHY 19:32:26 , WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM MORE RESIDENTS FROM THROUGH 19:32:29 OUT THE COUNTY. AGAIN MY NAME IS C 19:32:32 ASEY FARMER, REDISTRICTING 19:32:34 2021 EFFORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. 19:32:39 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU, CASEY. WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL BE 19:32:42 SURE TO SHARE THAT. I THINK IT'S ALREADY ON THE WEBSITE, 19:32:45 BUT IF NOT, WE'LL BE SURE TO -- I 19:32:49 THINK -- I KNOW WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR SUPERVISORS 19:32:52 AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT TOO. 19:32:55 WE WOULD LIKE MORE PEOPLE, AS ALWAYS, TO BE ENGAGED AND WE 19:32:58 APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT WERE PUT FORTH 19:33:02 FROM AMANDA, OUR CITY TEAM AND YOUR TEAM AT THE COUNTY LEVEL TO ENSURE 19:33:04 THAT PEOPLE PARTICIPATED IN CENSUS PROCESS. 19:33:13 NEXT ON OUR AGENDA ITEM, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S -- OKAY, WE'RE 19:33:16 OKAY RIGHT NOW FOR A BREAK, WE DON'T NEED A BREAK RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE 19:33:20 IS -- NEXT IS ITEM 5A, WHICH IS 19:33:23 THE HIGH STREET DEMOLITION APPEAL 19:33:26 . OUR SENIOR PLANNER, 19:33:29 BILL ROTH, WILL BE PROVIDING US WITH A STAFF PRESENTATION THIS 19:33:33 EVENING. WELCOME. 19:33:37 NICE TO SEE YOU, MR. ROTH. 19:33:41 >> 19:33:44 GOOD EVENING. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS THE CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL OF 19:33:50 TWO PLANNING MANAGER DETERMINATIONS THAT WERE UPHELD BY H 19:33:53 ARB ON A APPEAL. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 19:33:58 40871 HIGH STREET IN THE IRVINGTON DISTRICT IS A POTENTIAL 19:34:01 HISTORIC REGISTER RESOURCE, AND TWO, THERE IS INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO 19:34:04 SUPPORT EMERGENCY DEMOLITION OF AN EXISTING BARN ON THE 19:34:07 PROPERTY, PICTURED HERE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT 19:34:10 THE CITY'S HISTORIC RESOURCES ORDINANCE LIMITS THE PLANNING 19:34:14 MANAGER'S PURVIEW IN DETERMINING WHAT IS OR IS NOT A 19:34:17 POTENTIAL REGISTER RESOURCE. PER THE CODE, A HISTORIC 19:34:21 EVALUATION RECEIVED BY A QUALIFIED HISTORIC PRESERVATION 19:34:24 PROFESSIONAL IS THE BASIS FOR THAT DETERMINATION. HOWEVER 19:34:28 , ON APPEAL, PER FREMONT MUNICIPAL 19:34:31 CODE SECTION, THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT BOUND BY 19:34:34 THAT DECISION OR LIMITED TO THE ISSUES RAISED ON APPEAL. 19:34:38 THE CITY COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER THE FULL BODY OF EVIDENCE IN MAKING THEIR 19:34:41 DECISION TONIGHT, WHICH INCLUDES A SECOND HISTORIC EVALUATION 19:34:44 PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT'S CONSULTANT, THAT IS INCLUDED IN 19:34:51 THE AGENDA PACKET, AND DISCUSSED IN THE STAFF REPORT 19:34:51 . AND BRIEFLY IN THIS PRESENTATION. 19:34:59 THIS IS AN AERIAL -- >> Ms. Gauthier: I'M SORRY 19:35:02 TO INTERRUPT, MR. ROTH. WE'RE NOT SEEING YOUR PRESENTATION 19:35:05 . >> Mayor Mei: I WAS GOING TO 19:35:09 SAY THAT TOO. I APOLOGIZE, THANK YOU. >> Ms. Gauthier: DO YOU NEED US 19:35:12 TO SCREEN SHARE YOUR PRESENTATION? 19:35:15 >> THANK YOU FOR STOPPING ME THERE. I APOLOGIZE. 19:35:18 >> Ms. Gauthier: YES. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD IT UP 19:35:21 . >> CAN YOU SEE IT NOW? >> Ms. Gauthier: YES, WE CAN, THANK 19:35:23 YOU. >> Mayor Mei: YES. THANK YOU. 19:35:26 >> THANK YOU FOR GETTING ME THERE. SO THIS WAS THE FIRST SLIDE, JUST 19:35:29 SHOWING THE BARN. 19:35:32 AND HERE'S THE SECOND SLIDE. SO THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE APPROXIMATELY 19:35:36 1.23-ACRE PROPERTY. 19:35:39 WHEN VIEWED FROM THE STREET, THE SUBJECT BARN BUILT AROUND 19:35:43 1910 IS AT THE REAR OF AN EXISTING HOUSE BUILT IN 19 THRRT 19:35:46 EIGHT AND NEAR AN EXISTING TANKHOUSE ALREADY BUILT AROUND 19:35:49 1910. HERE ARE PHOTOS OF THE SOUTHERN 19:35:53 ELEVATIONS OF THE BARN. FOR BACKGROUND, STAFF WAS ORIGINALLY 19:35:56 APPROACHED WITH A REQUEST TO REMOVE THE BARN IN ORDER TO 19:35:59 FACILITATE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY WITH A CO-HOUSING 19:36:03 CONCEPT, WHICH THE APPLICANT TEAM WILL LIKELY ELABORATE ON IN 19:36:06 THEIR PRESENTATION. FOLLOWING THE 19:36:09 PROCEDURES OUTLINED IN THE CITY MANAGER MARK DANAJ'S ORDINANCE, STAFF SCREENED 19:36:12 THE PROPERTY FOR HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE AND OBTAINED A HISTORIC RESOURCES 19:36:15 INVENTORY MENTIONED BEFORE, ALSO CALLED A DPR FORM, WHICH 19:36:19 WAS PREPARED BY HISTORIC RESOURCES CONSULTANT 19:36:23 , WHICH CONCLUDED THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS A WHOLE WAS A 19:36:26 POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCE, AS A 19:36:29 RARE SURVIVING EXAMPLE OF A FARM STEAD IN FREMONT. A 19:36:32 POTENTIAL REGISTER RESOURCE MEANS A BUILDING, STRUCTURE, OBJECT 19:36:36 , SITE, AREA OR PLACE IDENTIFIED BY A QUALIFIED 19:36:39 HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROFESSIONAL AS MEETING THE STANDARDS 19:36:42 FOR LISTING IN THE CALIFORNIA REGISTER OR FREMONT 19:36:46 REGISTER. 19:36:50 THESE ARE PHOTOS OF THE BARN'S NORTH FACADES. THEY 19:36:53 CONCLUDED THAT THE BARN AND THE TANKHOUSE ARE, QUOTE, RARE 19:36:56 SURVIVING EXAMPLES OF AGRICULTURAL BUILDING TYPES THAT WERE 19:36:59 COMMON ON DOMESTIC AGRICULTURAL PROPERTIES IN FREMONT THROUGH 19:37:02 THE MID 20TH CENTURY. ALTHOUGH THE 19:37:05 EXISTING HOUSE IS NOT THE ORIGINAL FARMHOUSE AROUND WHICH THE BARN AND TANKHOUSE 19:37:09 WERE LIKELY BUILT, THAT 19:37:12 STATES THAT THE PROPERTY AS A WHOLE IS REPRESENTATIVE OF ITS 19:37:15 ORIGINAL AGRICULTURAL USE, AND ALLIANCE WITH THE BROAD 19:37:19 ER CONTEXT OF AGRICULTURE IN FREMONT AND THAT 19:37:22 , QUOTE, 4081 HIGH STREET RETAIN 19:37:25 S SUFFICIENT INTEGRITY TO CONVEY 19:37:28 ITS SIGNIFICANCE UNDER CRITERION C3 AND THEREFORE QUALIFIES 19:37:32 FOR LISTING ON LOCAL STATE AND HISTORIC RECOMMENDING 19:37:35 SISTERS. THAT DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR CRITERION, C 19:37:38 3, PERTAINS TO ARCHITECTURAL ELIGIBILITY FOR THE NATIONAL AND 19:37:41 STATE REGISTERS RESPECTIVELY. 19:37:47 THE CITY'S HISTORIC 19:37:52 REGISTER CAN BE APPEALED TO HARB 19:37:55 , WHICH THE APPLICANTS DID, THEY SUPPORTED THEIR APPEAL 19:37:58 WITH A DPR FROM THEIR OWN HISTORIC RESOURCES 19:38:01 CONSULTANT WHICH CONCLUDED THAT, QUOTE, THE BUILDING AND STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY 19:38:04 ARE COMMON FORMS OF SMALL AGRICULTURE TOORL OPERATIONS AND ARE 19:38:07 BETTER REPRESENTED IN 19:38:11 OTHER HISTORICALLY DESIGNATED SITES, AND THAT THE 19:38:14 PROPERTY DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR SIGNIFICANCE 19:38:17 THAT IS REQUIRED FOR ELIGIBILITY FOR HISTORIC REGISTER LISTING 19:38:20 . THEIR APPEAL ALSO QUESTIONS WHETHER THE 19:38:23 PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY USED AS A FARM STEAD 19:38:26 STEAD AFTER THE NEW HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 19:38:29 1938, COUNTERING A STATEMENT IN THE 19:38:33 DPR THAT ORCHARD CANNING AK 19:38:36 TIFLT CONTINUED ON THE PROPERTY THROUGH THE 1950s. HARB 19:38:39 CONSIDERED THE APPEAL BUT TOOK NO ACTION REGARDING THE DETERMINATION THAT THE PROPERTY 19:38:42 IS A POTENTIAL REGISTER RESOURCE. THAT 19:38:45 INACTION BY HARB IS CONSIDERED A DENIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S 19:38:49 APPEAL, EFFECTIVELY AFFIRMING THE PLANNING MANAGER'S DETERMINATION THAT 19:38:52 THE PROPERTY IS A POTENTIAL REGISTER RESOURCE 19:38:55 RESOURCE. THAT DECISION IS NOW BEING 19:38:58 APPEALED TONIGHT. THE APPLICANT HAS 19:39:01 ALSO FILED AN APPEAL OF A PLANNING MANAGER DETERMINATION THAT THERE IS 19:39:06 INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO WARRANT EMERGENCY DEMOLITION OF THE 19:39:09 BARN. THE CITY'S HISTORIC RESOURCES ORDINANCE PROVIDES A 19:39:12 PROCESS FOR EMERGENCY DEMOLITION OF REGISTER RESOURCES 19:39:16 AND POTENTIAL HISTORIC REGISTER 19:39:19 RESOURCES WHEN IMMEDIATE OR POTENTIAL HAZARDOUS 19:39:22 CONDITIONS ARE PRESENT TO OTHER BUILDINGS 19:39:26 , OCCUPANTS, OR TO PLANT OR ANIMAL LIFE ON THE SAME OR 19:39:29 ADJACENT PROPERTY, AND DEMOLITION IS THE ONLY FEASIBLE 19:39:32 OPTION FOR ADDRESSING THAT HAZARD. THE APPLICANT HAD A 19:39:35 STRUCTURAL ENGINEER PROVIDE A LETTER DATED IN JUNE OF LAST 19:39:39 YEAR STATING THAT, QUOTE, THE BUILDING POSSESSES A SIGNIFICANT 19:39:42 RISK TO LIFE SAFETY, AND, QUOTE, IT IS HIGHLY 19:39:45 LIKELY THE BUILD 19:39:48 WOULD COLLAPSE DURING A SIGNIFICANT OR SEISMIC EVENT. 19:39:52 AS REQUIRED PER THE ORANGES THE PLANNING MANAGER CONSULTED 19:39:55 WITH THE CITY'S CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHO WENT OUT AND 19:39:58 INSPECTED THE BARN IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, AND FOUND THAT IT DID NOT 19:40:01 PRESENT AN EMERGENCY HAZARDOUS CONDITION. SUBSEQUENTLY 19:40:04 , THE PLANNING MANAGER DETERMINED THAT INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE 19:40:08 EXISTED THIS TIME TO WARRANT EMERGENCY REMOVAL OF 19:40:11 THIS POTENTIAL HISTORIC REGISTER RESOURCE. 19:40:15 HARB TOOK ACTION TO UPHOLD THE PLANNING MANAGER'S 19:40:18 DETERMINATION, AND THAT ACTION WAS ALSO APPEALED TO 19:40:21 COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT. 19:40:26 IN SUMMARY, THE KEY QUESTIONS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL THIS EVENING ARE 19:40:29 , ONE, DOES THE EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD SUPPORT THE 19:40:32 CONCLUSION THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCE? 19:40:36 AS DOCUMENTED IN THE PAGE AND TRUM 19:40:39 BELL DPR, OR IS THERE ENOUGH 19:40:43 CONTROVERTING EVIDENCE-BASED ON THE PROGRAMMER'S DP 19:40:46 R AND TESTIMONY, WHEREAS IN THE COUNCIL'S JUDGMENT, 19:40:49 IT WAS INCORRECT TO CONCLUDE THE PROPERTY IS A POTENTIAL 19:40:53 HISTORIC RESOURCE. IF THE COUNCIL CONCLUDES THE PROPERTY IS A POTENTIAL 19:40:56 REGISTER RESOURCE, THE 19:40:59 SECOND QUESTION BEFORE COUNCIL IS WHETHER EMERGENCY DEMOLITION OF THE BARN IS WARRANTED 19:41:03 . MORE SPECIFICALLY, QUESTIONS 2A AND 2B ON THIS 19:41:06 SLIDE, IS IT AN IMMEDIATE HAZARD, AND IS DEMOLITION THE 19:41:10 ONLY FEASIBLE ACTION THAT CAN BE TAKEN TO ADDRESS THAT HAZARD 19:41:13 ? THE COUNCIL MUST BE ABLE TO ANSWER BOTH 19:41:17 2A AND 2B IN THE AFFIRMATIVE TO BE ABLE TO AUTHORIZE EMERGENCY 19:41:20 DEMOLITION 19:41:24 . IS IT AN MEDIAL 19:41:27 OR POTENTIAL HAZARD, IS DEMOLITION THE ONLY FEASIBLE ACTION 19:41:30 TO ADDRESS THE HAZARD? THE COUNCIL SHOULD USE ITS 19:41:33 JUDGMENT IN ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS, BASED ON WHATEVER THE COUNCIL 19:41:36 DECIDES WITH REGARD TO THESE QUESTIONS, THE RECOMMENDATION 19:41:40 SECTIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT CONTAIN THE SPECIFIC 19:41:43 ELEMENTS OF A MOTION. WHENEVER COUNCIL IS READY TO 19:41:46 MAKE A MOTION, STAFF CAN ASSIST IF NEEDED IN POINTING 19:41:50 THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES IN THAT RECOMMENDATION SECTION. THIS CONCLUDE 19:41:53 'S STAFF'S PRESENTATION. STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTION 19:41:56 S 19:42:00 THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE. >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU 19:42:03 . SO AT THIS TIME, 19:42:07 I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. 19:42:16 SEEING NONE, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE APPELLANT 19:42:19 ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION. 19:42:25 IF WE COULD GIVE THEM 10 MINUTES, IF WE COULD START THE 19:42:28 TIMER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I BELIEVE MAKING THE 19:42:31 PRESENTATION TONIGHT WILL BE JANE MUELLER, REPRESENTING URBAN 19:42:34 PROGRAMMERS. JANE, WELL KO. 19:42:38 >> JUST TO CLARIFY, I AM NOT 19:42:41 REPRESENTING URBAN PROGRAMMERS. I AM ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS 19:42:44 OF A GROUP THAT CALLS ITSELF MISSION PEAK VILLAGE. I'M ONE OF 19:42:47 TWO PEOPLE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TO YOU WITH REGARD TO PROPERTY 19:42:52 OWNER'S OWE PEEL OF THE AUGUST 19:42:53 DETERMINATION LETTER HE RECEIVED FROM THE PLANNING MANAGER 19:42:56 AND THE OTHER PERSON IS FROM URBAN PROGRAMMERS. >> Mayor Mei: OKAY 19:43:00 . >> YOU'VE DOUBTLESS READ IN YOUR 19:43:03 PACT THE APPEAL. HE MENTIONS IN THAT LETTER 19:43:06 THAT HE HAS A PENDING CONTRACT WITH A PROSPECTIVE 19:43:10 BUYER, A GROUP HE DESCRIBES AS COMPOSED PRIMARILY OF FREMONT 19:43:13 RESIDENTS WHO HOPE TO DEVELOP THE SITE AS AN 19:43:16 INNOVATIVE CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX WHERE THEY THEMSELVES WILL LIVE 19:43:20 . MISSION PEAK VILLAGE IS THAT GROUP. 19:43:23 WE COUNT AMONG US, INCIDENTALLY, SEVERAL 19:43:26 PEOPLE WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE 19:43:29 MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY INCLUDING ME. WE HOPE TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND 19:43:32 IN ALIGNMENT WITH CURRENT ZONING, BUILD A COMMUNITY TO 19:43:36 LIVE IN THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE ABOUT 32 HOUSEHOLDS, INCLUDING 19:43:39 THREE BELOW MARKET RATE UNITS. 19:43:43 OUR PURCHASE CONTRACT IS CONTINGENT UPON CITY APPROVAL OF 19:43:46 HIS PERMIT APPLICATION TO DECONSTRUCT THE BARN 19:43:49 . COMMUNITIES LIKE THE ONE WE PLAN ARE CALL 19:43:53 ED COLLABORATIVE HOUSING OR CO HOUSING. 19:43:56 WE ARE MULTIGENERATIONAL AND MULTICULTURAL, 19:44:00 AND SINGULARLY FOCUSED ON THE IDEA OF INTENTIONAL COMMUNITY 19:44:03 . WE WANT TO CREATE AND LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE NEIGHBORS 19:44:07 ARE FRIENDS, WHERE YOUNG AND OLD PEOPLE PLAY TOGETHER 19:44:10 AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER, WHERE WE INTERACT FREQUENTLY AND MAYBE 19:44:14 HAVE MEALS TOGETHER A FEW TIMES A WEEK. THERE ARE MORE THAN A DOZEN 19:44:18 CO HOUSING COMMUNITIES IN THE BAY AREA BUT NONE YET IN FREMONT. THE HOUSING 19:44:21 ELEMENT OF FREMONT'S GENERAL PLAN ACTUALLY CALL 19:44:25 S OUT THE CO HOUSING CONCEPT AS A DESIRABLE ADDITION THOUGH 19:44:27 TO THE HOUSING MIX. OUR GROUP HOPES 19:44:30 TO BE THE FIRST TO FINALLY INTRODUCE CO HOUSING TO FREMONT. 19:44:33 MISSION PEAK VILLAGE HAS RETAINED WELL-KNOWN CO HOUSING 19:44:37 PIONEER KATHRYN McHAMMOND AS OUR 19:44:40 ADVISOR. BRAD 19:44:43 GUNKEL, PRINCIPAL OF THE FIRM, IS NOT ONLY 19:44:46 EXPERIENCED IN DESIGNING CO HOUSING COMMUNITIES, HE'S 19:44:49 EXPERIENCED IN LIVING IN THEM AS WELL. 19:44:53 THE CITY PLANNING MANAGER'S DETERMINATION LETTER 19:44:56 SAID IN PART THAT THE SETTING OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS 19:44:59 ON THE PROPERTY CONSTITUTED A POTENTIAL HISTORICAL RESOURCE, THE 19:45:02 WHOLE SETTING. AS YOU KNOW, THE SELLER APPEALED THAT 19:45:06 DETERMINATION TO HARB LAST MONTH AND HARB WAS UNABLE TO TAKE 19:45:09 ACTION AND CONCLUDE THAT THE WHOLE SETTING WAYS HISTORIC AND WORTHY 19:45:12 OF PRESERVATION. BUT IF THE 19:45:16 SETTING AS A WHOLE MUST BE PRESERVED, THE SITE WILL BE UNUSABLE 19:45:19 FOR OUR PURPOSE. IN OTHER WORDS, IF COUNCIL VOTES TO 19:45:22 REJECT THE SELLER'S APPEAL, WE WILL NOT PURCHASE THE PROPERTY 19:45:25 . AS HISTORY MAKING A 19:45:29 SITE AS IT COULD BECOME. ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE DISCOVERED FROM 19:45:32 TALKING WITH 19:45:35 -- THAT IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE BARN DECONSTRUCTED IN 19:45:38 SUCH A WAY THAT SOME OF THE WOOD COULD BE REPURPOSED, MAYBE 19:45:41 EVEN USED IN OUR BUILDING SOMEHOW. 19:45:44 OUR ARCHITECT SEES POSSIBILITIES IN THAT TOO. WE'VE EVEN HAD 19:45:48 AN EXPLORATORY INQUIRY FROM PEOPLE PLANNING A 19:45:51 RESTORATION PROJECT AT SHINN PARK ABOUT REPURPOSING SOME OF 19:45:54 THAT WOOD. IT TOOK 19:45:57 SEVEN YEARS OF SEARCHING FOR AND ATTEMPTING TO BUY 19:46:00 A SITE BEFORE WE CAME TO A MEETING OF THE MINDS WITH THIS 19:46:03 PROPERTY OWNER. BUT UNLESS YOU 19:46:06 UPHOLD HIS APPEAL, WE CAN'T BUILD CO HOUSING THERE 19:46:10 . WE CAN SAY FROM LONG, 19:46:13 HARD EXPERIENCE, I PROMISE YOU, THAT WE ARE UNLIKELY TO FIND ANOTHER 19:46:16 SITE THAT WOULD WORK. 19:46:19 IT WILL END OUR ENDEAVOR TO INTRODUCE CO HOUSING AS 19:46:21 AN APPROACH TO MEETING FREMONT'S HOUSING NEED, IN FACT, IT WILL 19:46:25 END OUR ENDEAVOR PERIOD. BUT IN THE LARGER CONTEXT 19:46:28 , AS A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF FREMONT AND A CONSTITUENT WHO 19:46:31 ELECTS CITY COUNCIL TO BE THE STEWARDS OF OUR LAND USE, I ASK YOU 19:46:34 TO CONSIDER THE MOST EFFECTIVE USE OF THIS PARCEL 19:46:37 . IT SITS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD OF MOSTLY MULTIFAMILY 19:46:40 DWELLINGS. IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH ITS 19:46:43 SURROUNDINGS AND HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE IN ITS HISTORIC VALUE 19:46:46 . AS YOU EMBARK ON YOUR HOUSING 19:46:49 UPDATE WORK ON OUR CITY'S BEHALF, PLEASE THINK ABOUT WHETHER 19:46:53 32 UNITS OF HOUSING INCLUDING BMR UNITS IS A 19:46:56 FAR MORE APPROPRIATE USE OF THIS SITE. 19:46:59 SO NOW I WILL INTRODUCE TO YOU THE 19:47:03 SECOND SPEAKER. AS YOU READ IN MR. MOSETTI'S 19:47:06 LETTER, WHEN STAFF ELECTED NOT TO HAVE THE PAGE AND TURN 19:47:09 BULL REPORT PEER REVIEWED, HE RETAINED A FIRM HIMSELF TO 19:47:12 PERFORM THE REVIEW. AMONG THE QUALIFIED 19:47:16 FIRMS WHOSE EXPERIENCE ALREADY INCLUDED ANALYSES IN FREMONT WAS URBAN 19:47:20 PROGRAMMERS, A HIGHLY REGARDED FIRM WITH CREDENTIALS AS 19:47:23 CONSULTANTS FOR CULTURAL RESOURCE EVALUATION STUDIES AND 19:47:26 HISTORIC PRESERVATION. SO PLEASE MEET THE PRESIDENT OF URBAN PROGRAMMER 19:47:29 S, BONNIE 19:47:32 BRAM 19:47:42 BAMBURG. >> Ms. Gauthier: WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES 19:47:45 20 SECONDS LEFT. >> Mayor Mei: GREAT. WELCOME, BONNIE. 19:47:48 YOU'RE ALSO ON MUTE. I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE THAT. 19:47:59 YOU'RE STILL ON MUTE. I'M SORRY. THERE. 19:48:02 >> IS THAT WORKING? THANK YOU. >> Ms. Gauthier: I'M SORRY TO 19:48:05 INTERRUPT, MS. BAMBURG. WILL YOU BE SHARING YOUR 19:48:08 SCREEN OR DO YOU NEED US TO DO THAT? >> I BELIEVE THAT THE 19:48:12 SLIDES HAVE BEEN SENT TO YOU TO BE ABLE TO SHARE. 19:48:14 >> Ms. Gauthier: OKAY. JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT WHO WAS SHARING. 19:48:17 SO IF YOU CAN GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE. 19:48:24 >> WHILE YOU'RE GETTING THAT TOGETHER, THE SLIDES ARE 19:48:27 REALLY JUST A 19:48:30 BRIEF PART OF THE REPORT THAT WE HAD TURNED IN PREVIOUSLY 19:48:33 PREVIOUSLY. AND I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF JUST A LITTLE BIT 19:48:37 MORE. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN 19:48:40 EVALUATING HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY 19:48:43 AREA FOR OVER 40 YEARS. AND 19:48:46 IN THE PAST, WORKING IN THE CITY OF FREMONT 19:48:49 , SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE DID A DRIVE- 19:48:53 AROUND SURVEY TO LOOK FOR 19:48:56 BARNS, TANKHOUSE AND VARIOUS OTHER REMNANTS OF 19:48:59 THE PAST HISTORY OF THE VILLAGES THAT CAME TOGETHER 19:49:02 TO BE FREMONT. AND I WILL TELL YOU 19:49:07 WE FOUND MANY, MANY EXAMPLES. I THINK WHEN 19:49:10 FREMONT INCORPORATED AND BROUGHT THE VILLAGES 19:49:14 TOGETHER, THERE WAS SO MUCH AGRICULTURAL LAND IN BETWEEN 19:49:18 THAT AS THE SUBDIVISION STARTED, 19:49:21 REMNANTS OF THESE ACTIVITIES SORT OF 19:49:24 REMAIN IN PIECES AND IN PARTS THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS 19:49:27 . I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL SEEN THEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 19:49:33 WHEN WE WERE BEFORE THE HARB BOARD -- LET ME 19:49:37 BACK UP AND JUST TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT 19:49:40 TWO REPORT. BOTH QUALIFIED HISTORICAL CONSULTANTS 19:49:44 , BUT WITH A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION. AND HOW CAN THAT BE? 19:49:47 WELL, THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT 19:49:51 TWO THAT ARE MOST COMMON 19:49:54 IS THAT ONE CONSULTANT HAS MAYBE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE 19:49:57 OVERALL GENERAL AREA, AND THERE MAY BE RESEARCH 19:50:00 THAT ONE OR THE OTHER FINDS CREDIBLE OR NOT. 19:50:06 SO THAT'S TYPICALLY THE REASONS WHY YOU WOULD HAVE 19:50:09 A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. AND THE CONCLUSION 19:50:12 . 19:50:16 BEFORE THE HARB BOARD, IT WAS QUESTION 19:50:20 ED WHETHER OR NOT ONE BUILDING, POSSIBLY THE BARN, COULD BE 19:50:23 SEPARATED AND THUS BE A HISTORICAL 19:50:26 RESOURCE, AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT 19:50:30 THE BUILDINGS ON THE SITE REALLY 19:50:34 ARE A COMMON STYLE OR SEVERELY ALTER 19:50:37 ED AS IN THE CASE OF THIS HOUSE THAT 19:50:40 HAS HAD ITS WHOLE FRONT WALLED IN AND 19:50:43 COMPLETELY CHANGED ITS CHARACTER 19:50:47 , TO THE FACT THAT THE BARN HAS HAD 19:50:50 RECONSTRUCTION, AND THAT ISN'T 19:50:54 RECONSTRUCTIVE, IS IN PRETTY 19:50:57 POOR CONDITION. SO INDIVIDUALLY 19:51:00 , I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BOTH REPORT AND SAY THIS 19:51:04 IS A REPORT OF THIS 19:51:07 SITE, RATHER THAN BEING ABLE TO SEPARATE THEM. 19:51:12 WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE 19:51:15 CONCEPT OF A FARMSTEAD, ONE OF THE THINGS 19:51:18 THAT'S GENERALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE IN A FARMSTEAD 19:51:22 IS A HOMESTEAD. WE 19:51:25 COULD FIND NO EVIDENCE OF A HOUSE ON 19:51:28 THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO 1938. 19:51:33 AND AFTER 1938, WE COULD NOT FIND 19:51:36 EVIDENCE THAT ACTUALLY 19:51:39 CANNING DID GO ON ON THE SITE. WE DID FIND EVIDENCE THAT THERE WAS 19:51:42 A SMALL APRICOT 19:51:50 -- AND THAT APRICOTS WERE AVAILABLE, BUT THAT IS 19:51:53 NOT THE SAME THING AS CREATING A SIGNIFICANT FARMSTEAD, HOME 19:51:56 STEAD THAT CAN COMMUNICATE ITS STORY TO 19:51:59 PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. 19:52:02 SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME TO A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION 19:52:06 THAN THE PAGE AND TURNBULL REPORT, AND WE HAD 19:52:09 SOME YEARS LATER THE ABILITY TO DO A LITTLE 19:52:12 BIT MORE RESEARCH MAYBE THAN THEY HAD HAD AT 19:52:15 THAT TIME. SO I HOPE THAT CAN HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW YOU 19:52:18 CAN HAVE TWO CONFLICTING OPINIONS 19:52:22 AND STILL HAVE CREDIBLE CONSULTANTS. 19:52:27 SO GOING FORWARD, 19:52:30 I FIRST WANT TO COMPLIMENT 19:52:34 THE CITY OF FREMONT. AS THE COMMUNITIES CAME 19:52:37 TOGETHER, AND THE HISTORY OF THE CITY WAS CHANGING AND 19:52:40 GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, 19:52:43 THERE WAS FORESIGHT TO PRESERVE THE ARDENWOOD 19:52:46 FARM, THE SHINN HISTORIC PARK 19:52:49 , THE -- AND DAVIS HOUSE WHICH 19:52:53 IS JUST DOWN THE BLOCK ON HIGH STREET, AND THE 19:52:56 CALIFORNIA NURSERY, AMONG OTHERS. 19:53:01 THOSE ARE WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL SITES 19:53:04 . THEY'RE 19:53:07 COMPLETE IN THEIR SETTING AND THEY COMMUNICATE WHAT THEIR 19:53:11 PREVIOUS USE WAS AND HOW 19:53:14 THEY FUNCTIONED, HOW THEY FUNCTIONED IS REALLY AN 19:53:17 IMPORTANT PART OF UNDERSTANDING THE HISTORY OF SOMETHING. 19:53:25 SO WITH THAT, I WOULD BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING 19:53:29 OUR REPORT AND 19:53:33 I WON'T SPEAK FOR PAGE AND TURNBULL BUT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THEIR REPORT 19:53:36 AS WELL. >> Mayor Mei: AGAIN, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF 19:53:38 THERE'S ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCILMEMBERS. 19:53:46 OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE TO 19:53:50 SEE -- COUNCILMEMBER 19:53:53 KASSAN -- COUNCILMEMBER JONES FIRST ACTUALLY. 19:53:57 >> Councilmember Jones: THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, JANE AND 19:54:00 BONNIE, FOR THE PRESENTATIONS. 19:54:03 JUST A QUICK QUESTION. SO THE 19:54:07 OVERALL SITE, IN YOUR VIEW, BONNIE, IS NO LONGER 19:54:11 HISTORICAL BECAUSE OF THE NEWER AGE 19:54:14 OF THE FARMHOUSE AND THE FACT THAT IT HAS BEEN REMODELED 19:54:17 SEVERAL TIMES. DOES THAT ALSO APPLY TO -- IT LOOKS 19:54:21 LIKE THERE'S BEEN EXTENSIVE REMODELING TO THE BARN. >> YES, 19:54:24 AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OVERALL SITE, 19:54:27 AS A FARMSTEAD OR HOME 19:54:30 STEAD, IT'S A COMPLETE UNIT, AND THAT SITE IS NOT A COMPLETE UNIT. 19:54:35 IN OUR OPINION. >> Councilmember Jones: AND THAT'S BASED 19:54:38 ON THE NUMBER OF ALTERATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE OVER THE YEARS, IS THAT 19:54:41 CORRECT? >> THE NUMBER OF ALTERATIONS AND THE DIFFERENCES 19:54:45 IN THE TIME PERIODS BETWEEN 19:54:48 THE HOUSE AND THE OTHER AGRICULTURAL BUILDINGS. 19:54:52 >> Councilmember Jones: OKAY. THANK YOU. AND FOR MR. ROTH 19:54:55 , IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT THE CURRENT OWNER FROM TAKING 19:54:58 THE STRUCTURE DOWN IF HE DECIDED NOT 19:55:01 TO SELL THE PROPERTY? 19:55:05 >> WELL, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE 19:55:08 FIRST DPR IN FROM THE HISTORIC CONSULTANT 19:55:12 PAGE AND TURNBULL STATING THAT THE PROPERTY IS A POTENTIAL 19:55:15 REGISTER RESOURCE, THEN IT BENEFITS FROM THE 19:55:19 PROTECTION OF POTENTIAL OR REGISTER RESOURCE 19:55:22 FOR THE CITY'S HISTORIC RESOURCES ORDINANCE. SO AS IT IS RIGHT NOW 19:55:25 , BASED ON THAT DECISION WHICH 19:55:28 WAS UPHELD BY HARB, KIND OF AS WE ARE AT THIS 19:55:31 PRESENT TIME TODAY, 19:55:35 THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE FINDINGS FOR IMMEDIATE OR 19:55:39 PROMPT EMERGENCY DEMOLITION IN THE HISTORIC RESOURCES 19:55:42 ORDINANCE. IF COUNCIL WERE TO DECIDE 19:55:45 TONIGHT THAT IT IS NOT A POTENTIAL REGISTER RESOURCE, THEN THEY DON'T NEED 19:55:48 TO MEET THOSE EMERGENCY DEMOLITION REQUIREMENTS IN THE HISTORIC RESOURCES 19:55:51 ORDINANCE. THEY WOULD JUST WORK THROUGH THE 19:55:55 BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR A MINISTERIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT, AS WOULD SOMEBODY 19:55:58 FOR ANY OTHER STRUCTURE THAT ISN'T 19:56:01 A HISTORIC RESOURCE OR 19:56:03 POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCE. >> Councilmember Jones: THANK YOU. 19:56:07 YOU ACTUALLY ANSWERED MY NEXT QUESTION THERE ABOUT IF IT WAS NOT DEEMED TO 19:56:10 BE HISTORICAL, THEN THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITION PO OF 19:56:13 PORTION OF IT WOULD KIND 19:56:16 OF BECOME A MOOT POINT, CORRECT? >> 19:56:20 YES, THAT'S CORRECT. >> I KNOW THERE WAS SOME QUESTION 19:56:23 ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS SAFE AND HAD TO COME DOWN IMMEDIATELY. 19:56:26 WAS THAT BASED ON WHETHER THE BUILDING WAS INHABITED OR NOT? 19:56:31 >> SO IT WAS THE APPLICANT 19:56:34 , THE AP LENT THAT HIRED A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER 19:56:37 TO PROVIDE THAT LETTER BACK IN JUNE, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE YOU 19:56:41 AGENDA PACKET, AND IT MAKES THOSE QUOTES THAT I BROUGHT 19:56:44 UP IN THE STAFF REPORT ABOUT IT BEING 19:56:47 IN DANGER OF COLLAPSE DUE TO WIND OR SEISMIC EVENT 19:56:50 . 19:56:54 I DON'T, IN SHORT, KNOW ALL THAT THEY 19:56:58 ENGINEER, THAT THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER CONSIDERED. 19:57:01 THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITION ORDINANCE, IT DOESN'T PERTAIN JUST TO PEOPLE LIVING IN 19:57:04 A BUILDING. AS I MENTIONED, 19:57:07 IT CAN AFFECT PLANTS, OTHER STRUCTURE 19:57:10 S, ADJACENT PROPERTY. SO IT'S NOT 19:57:13 JUST DEPENDENT ON WHETHER A PERSON WOULD BE LIVING IN THE 19:57:17 BUILDING OR NOT. I HOPE THAT HELPS. 19:57:21 >> Councilmember Jones: OKAY. I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS SECURED OR 19:57:24 IF THERE'S THE ABILITY FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE AN 19:57:27 UNAUTHORIZED ENTRY INTO IT AND SET UP CAMP, DOES THAT 19:57:30 PUT THEM IN DANGER IN ITS CURRENT EDITION 19:57:33 ? 19:57:36 >> WELL, SO THE PLANNING MANAGER 19:57:39 WORKED WITH THE BUILDING -- CITY'S CHIEF BUILDING 19:57:42 OFFICIAL, WHO WENT OUT TO THE SITE IN APRIL AND DETERMINED THAT THERE WASN'T 19:57:46 A RISK OF THAT BUILDING COLLAPSING. 19:57:49 SO I DON'T KNOW -- MORE BEYOND THAT, I CAN'T SPEAK 19:57:52 TO. >> Councilmember Jones: OKAY. SO IN ESSENCE, OUR DECISION AS TO 19:57:55 WHETHER OR NOT THIS SITE OVERALL IS HISTORICAL OR 19:57:59 NOT IS GOING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE PROPERTY 19:58:02 OWNER'S OPTIONS ARE AS FAR AS 19:58:05 BEING ABLE TO SELL OR OTHERWISE DISPOSE 19:58:08 OF THE PROPERTY. IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT 19:58:11 . THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEMOLITION OF 19:58:16 THAT BARN STRUCTURE UNLESS THERE'S A DECISION MADE TONIGHT THAT IT'S 19:58:19 NOT A POTENTIAL REGISTER RESOURCE, OR THAT 19:58:22 THE EMERGENCY DEMOLITION FINDINGS CAN BE MET 19:58:26 OF A STEJ REMEMBER 19:58:30 A REGISTER RESOURCE 19:58:32 . THERE'S TWO DECISIONS TONIGHT. 19:58:35 >> Councilmember Jones: JUST TO CLARIFY, THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE IS NOT STRICTLY 19:58:38 BASED ON AGE, CORRECT? >> NO 19:58:41 , IN THIS CASE, IT WAS ARCHITECTURE 19:58:46 THAT WAS PUT INTO THE 19:58:49 PAGE AND TURNBULL D 19:58:52 PR, AND JUST THE FARMSTEAD SETTING AND HOW 19:58:56 THAT WAS A CHARACTERISTIC OF 19:58:59 FREMONT BACK AT THAT PERIOD. 19:59:03 >> Councilmember Jones: AND HOW DOES THIS PLAY OVERALL INTO THE FACT THAT THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED 19:59:06 WITHIN THE TOD FOR IRVINGTON BART? 19:59:09 >> THERE'S NO PROVISIONS IN THE TOD THAT WOULD 19:59:13 AFFECT -- THAT WOULD SORT OF TRUMP 19:59:16 , SO TO SPEAK, THE HISTORIC RESOURCES ORDINANCE. WE STILL 19:59:19 GET TO DO THAT REVIEW EVEN IF WE HAVE A TO DSM 19:59:26 TOD PROJECT, I GUESS. >> Councilmember Jones: OKAY, THANK YOU. 19:59:28 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER KASSAN. 19:59:32 >> Councilmember Kassan: THANK YOU. SO I'M DEFINITELY A 19:59:35 BIG FAN OF CO HOUSING, 19:59:38 BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED 19:59:42 TO DETERMINE ISN'T REALLY TIED TO THE 19:59:45 CO HOUSING 19:59:49 USE BECAUSE THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THE 19:59:52 SITE WOULD BE USED FOR CO HOUSING, 19:59:55 RIGHT? THIS PROPERTY OWN E IF WE DID SAY YOU COULD 19:59:58 DEMOLISH THE BUILDING, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING TO STOP THE PROPERTY OWNER 20:00:01 FROM SELLING TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER OTHER THAN THE CO 20:00:03 HOUSING COMMUNITY. IS THAT TRUE? 20:00:07 OR -- AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE 20:00:10 FIRST PERSON WHO SPHOAK, IS THERE ALREADY 20:00:13 A CONTRACT IN PLACE THAT WOULD OBLIGATE 20:00:16 THE OWNER TO SELL TO THE CO-HOUSING COMMUNITY 20:00:20 CONTINGENT ON THE ABILITY TO DEMOLISH THIS BUILDING 20:00:23 . >> Mayor Mei: MY APOLOGIES, 20:00:26 THAT WOULD BE DIRECTED TO STAFF. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. 20:00:31 >> Councilmember Kassan: I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF KNOWS WHAT 20:00:34 THE AGREEMENT IS. >> STAFF IS NOT AWARE OF ANY AGREEMENT. 20:00:36 THE APPLICANT SHOULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> MAY I ANSWER? 20:00:40 >> Mayor Mei: YES, PLEASE. >> YES, THERE IS A CONTRACT IN PLACE. 20:00:43 >> Councilmember Kassan: OKAY. SO IT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE FOR THE OWNER TO SELL 20:00:46 TO A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER? 20:00:48 OKAY. >> NO, IT WOULD NOT. >> Councilmember Kassan: THANK YOU. 20:00:53 >> Mayor Mei: ANY OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER KASSAN? 20:00:59 OKAY. NEXT, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER COX 20:01:02 . 20:01:06 KOCH COX THANK YOU. I WANTED TO FIND OUT, I DIDN'T SEE IN READING 20:01:09 THE REPORTS IF THERE WAS ANY 20:01:15 WATER TEST OR ANY TYPE OF UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK OR SOMETHING ASSOCIAT 20:01:18 ED WITH THAT PIECE 20:01:21 OF PROPERTY. DID ANYBODY CHECK THAT PART OUT? 20:01:27 >> THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE SUBMITTAL 20:01:31 FOR THE PROPOSED REVIEW AND DEMOLITION. 20:01:36 THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING IF WE HAD A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THERE 20:01:39 THAT STAFF WOULD WANT TO SEE. BUT 20:01:42 THAT ISN'T PART OF WHAT WAS SUBMITTED IN TERMS OF THE HISTORIC 20:01:45 REVIEW. >> Councilmember Cox: OKAY. NOT A PROBLEM. 20:01:50 I LIKE THE IDEA OF CO HOUSING BECAUSE 20:01:53 I THINK THAT THE COST OF LIVING 20:01:57 AS WE KNOW IS VERY HIGH IN OUR AREA, AND I 20:02:00 THINK BEING THAT 20:02:04 THIS COHOUSING IS A PART OF OUR 20:02:07 MASTER PLAN, THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME CONSIDERATION 20:02:10 GIVEN IN TERMS OF 20:02:14 ALLOWING PEOPLE TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AN HAVING A 20:02:18 UNIQUE SETUP, BECAUSE IT KIND OF REMINDS ME OF MY 20:02:21 COLLEGE DAYS, THAT I LIVED IN A COHOUSING 20:02:24 UNIT AND I WAS WITH STUDENTS 20:02:27 FROM AROUND THE WORLD, AND WE SHARED BATHROOMS, 20:02:31 KITCHENS, LIVING ROOMS TOGETHER, 20:02:34 AND WE GREW, WE EDUCATED EACH OTHER 20:02:37 , UNDERSTANDING MORE OF WHAT THINGS WERE HAPPENING IN 20:02:40 EACH ONE OF OUR PARTS OF THE WORLD 20:02:44 , BUT ALSO WE CAME TOGETHER BECAUSE WE WERE THERE FOR THE REASON, WAS TO 20:02:47 GET A GOOD EDUCATION, AND I THINK IT'S JUST KIND OF THE UNIQUE SETUP 20:02:51 THAT BEING ABLE TO SHARE COMMON AREA 20:02:54 S AND THINGS IS ALLOWING A COMMUNITY 20:02:57 TO INTERACT. I 20:03:00 AM REPRESENTING DISTRICT 6, IRVINGTON, AND CERTAINLY 20:03:04 HAVE BEEN 20:03:08 DOWN TO THAT PROPERTY, AND THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER 20:03:11 MULTI-UNITS AROUND THERE, SO IT 20:03:14 WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WAS OUT OF PLACE FOR IT, 20:03:17 BUT I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE IT A CHANCE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN LIVE IN PIECE 20:03:20 AND HARMONY AND ALSO BLEND IN WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY, 20:03:24 WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR, AND I AM IN FULL SUPPORT 20:03:27 OF MULTIGENERATIONAL LIVING, AND 20:03:31 FOR US TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER 20:03:34 . AT THIS POINT I WOULDN'T DEEM IT AS SOMETHING 20:03:36 HISTORICAL BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S BEEN TOO MANY CHANGES. 20:03:40 I'M AN ENGINEER BY TRAINING, AND 20:03:43 ED EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCES, 20:03:46 AND ONCE YOU CHANGE IT TOO MANY TIMES, IT KIND 20:03:49 OF ALLOWS ITSELF TO EVOLVE INTO 20:03:52 A NEW TYPE OF HOUSING. TO I 20:03:56 WOULD LOOK AT IN TERMS OF 20:04:00 SEEING HOW WE COULD MOVE FORWARD AND ALLOW 20:04:03 ING THE STRUCTURE TO BE CHANGE 20:04:06 ED AND BEING ABLE TO 20:04:11 TAKE TO THE NEXT LEVEL THAT IT WOULD TURN INTO A CO 20:04:14 HOUSING UNIT. GLRCHLT SO MY APOLOGIES, IN ADDITIONAL 20:04:17 CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? 20:04:23 >> Councilmember Cox: YEAH, THERE IS A 'NOTHER ONE I WOULD LIKE TO FIND 20:04:27 OUT IS, IN TERMS OF FOR THE CLARIFICATION, 20:04:30 I GUESS IT'S LIKE YOU 20:04:35 HAD TWO DIFFERENT FINDINGS BUT WHICH ONE TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER 20:04:38 THE OTHER? THAT'S THE PART THAT IS NOT CLEAR IN THIS TYPE OF RULING OR 20:04:41 SETUP, BECAUSE OF 20:04:44 -- YOU HAVE THE HARB AND THEN YOU HAVE CITY AND, 20:04:47 YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU HAVE A HISTORICAL 20:04:51 EXPERT, SO THOSE THINGS ARE KIND OF 20:04:54 ALL MIX MATCH IN THAT REGARD. SO WHAT WOULD BE THE 20:04:57 RULE OF THUMB IN THIS TYPE OF OPERATION OF 20:05:00 PROCEEDING FORWARD? 20:05:05 >> Mayor Mei: SO I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING AS 20:05:08 EACH HAS SHARED A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR PERSPECTIVES. >> Councilmember Cox: BUT 20:05:11 WHAT'S THE RULING? WHAT'S THE LAW THAT WOULD DICTATE TO 20:05:14 IT? >> Mayor Mei: I DON'T BELIEVE, 20:05:17 PLANNER ROTH OR ATTORNEY, THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE 20:05:21 DECIDING. THERE IS NO SPECIFIC LAW THAT I'M AWARE OF 20:05:24 AS TWO PARTIES HAVE BOTH BEEN CERTIFIED AT PROVIDE 20:05:27 ING THE INFORMATION, I THINK IT WILL BE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE 20:05:30 COUNCIL AND I WOULD TURN TO PLANNER 20:05:33 ROTH AS WELL AS 20:05:37 COUNSEL MARGOLIS TO BE ABLE TO 20:05:40 ANSWER THAT. >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT, AND COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER ALL OF THE 20:05:43 EVIDENCE, BOTH OF THE DPRs AND THE APPLICANT 20:05:47 'S PRESENTATION PUBLIC INPUT TONIGHT. 20:05:50 THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHEN THE PLANNING MANAGER RECEIVED THAT 20:05:54 PER THE HISTORIC RESOURCES ORDINANCE, IT'S 20:05:57 SIMPLY A HISTORICALLY 20:06:00 QUALIFIED PROFESSIONAL PROVIDING THAT HISTORIC 20:06:03 EVALUATION, THAT THE PLANNING MANAGER AT THAT POINT IN TIME 20:06:07 HAS BEFORE HIM OR HER, AND REVIEWS 20:06:10 THAT, AND THEN IT ELEVATES TO WHAT'S CONSIDERED 20:06:13 A POTENTIAL REGISTER RESOURCE. SO AT THAT 20:06:16 POINT, BASICALLY THE PLANNING MANAGER MADE THE DECISION THAT HE HAD 20:06:20 TO BASED ON THE COAT, AND THEN IT GOES TO HARB 20:06:23 ON APPEAL, BUT PER THE 20:06:27 SECTION I SITED IN THE PRESENTATION, HARB AND 20:06:30 COUNCIL HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER THAT SECOND BPR, 20:06:33 AND ALL OF THE OTHER INFORMATION PRESENTED. 20:06:41 >> Ms. Shackelford: BILL, CAN I ASK YOU TO PUT UP THE 20:06:44 FINAL SLIDE AGAIN? >> Mayor Mei: THE QUESTIONS, 20:06:48 THAT ACTUALLY PERTAINS AND I THINK ONE OF OUR COUNCILMEMBERS REFERENCED IT TOO. 20:06:51 I THINK CERTAINLY MANY OF US ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONCEPT OF CO 20:06:54 HOUSING BECAUSE OF OUR DISCUSSIONS IN 20:06:57 OUR GENERAL PLAN, BUT I THINK THE SUMMARY OF THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS, 20:07:00 WHICH IS THE LAST SLIDE, IS THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE CALLING 20:07:03 TO. SO DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CLARIFYING QUESTION 20:07:06 S? COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN? 20:07:12 >> Councilmember Salwan: YES, MADAME MAYOR. I THINK THERE'S TWO ASPECTS OF OUR 20:07:16 ROLE. ONE IS THE LEGISLATIVE AND POLICY-MAKING, AND THE OTHER 20:07:19 IS THE QUASI JUDICIAL WHERE WE GET TO DECIDE 20:07:22 , AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, I THINK, HEARINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT 20:07:25 CITY COUNCIL DECIDES WHAT HAPPEN 20:07:31 S, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A JUDGE. BUT MY QUESTION IS, I JUST WANTED TO 20:07:34 HAVE MS. 20:07:38 -- RECAP WHY SHE FEELS THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT HISTORIC 20:07:41 , JUST KIND OF HIGH LEVEL WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS, IF YOU 20:07:45 COULD JUST SUMMARIZE WHY YOU BELIEVE THIS PROJECT OR 20:07:48 THIS BARN IS NOT HISTORIC? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL 20:07:51 , I THINK IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING ONE BUILDING BUT 20:07:54 WE'RE CONSIDERING THE WHOLE SITE. AND WHEN WE CONSIDER THE 20:07:57 WHOLE SITE AND ITS ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE 20:08:01 AN ONGOING OR PREVIOUS AK TEURL OPERATION 20:08:04 FROM A FAMILY FARM, WE DON'T SEE IT THERE. 20:08:08 WE SEE BUILDINGS THAT ARE 20:08:11 OF DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS, WE SEE ALTERATIONS 20:08:14 THAT HAVE REALLY TAKEN AWAY FROM THEIR ARCHITECTURE 20:08:17 TO THE POINT THAT SOMEONE COMING ON TO THE 20:08:20 PROPERTY WITHOUT PRIOR KNOWLEDGE WOULD 20:08:23 NOT UNDERSTAND, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TELL WHAT WAS THERE. 20:08:27 IT'S LOST THE CONTEXT AND THE SETTING 20:08:30 OF WHAT MAY HAVE BEEN THERE, BUT AS I MENTIONED, 20:08:33 WE COULD FIND NO EVIDENCE THAT THERE WAS 20:08:36 A PREVIOUS HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY. AND SO THAT 20:08:39 MAKES IT QUITE DIFFICULT TO CONSIDER IT A FARM 20:08:42 FARMSTEAD IF THERE WAS NO HOUSE 20:08:45 HOUSE -- AT THE TIME OF THE BARN 20:08:48 AND THE TANKHOUSE. >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. 20:08:52 DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? 20:08:55 COUNCILMEMBER KENG, COLLAR GUYING QUESTIONS? >> Councilmember Keng: YES 20:08:58 , THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION, SO 20:09:01 ONE OF THE TWO CRITERIAS THAT WE'RE TRYING 20:09:05 TO DETERMINE, WHETHER THERE IS 20:09:08 IMMEDIATE DANGER FROM THE BUILDING. SINCE NOBODY 20:09:11 CAN REALLY SAY, I THINK, NOW 20:09:14 , BUT CAN WE PERHAPS CONSIDER FROM THE OTHER 20:09:17 PERSPECTIVE, WOULD THE STAFF 20:09:20 CONSIDER THE -- 20:09:25 -- BUILDING? >> I'M SORRY, IT JUST CUT OUT THERE, THE 20:09:28 VERY LAST FIVE SECONDS. 20:09:32 >> Councilmember Keng: FROM OUR EXPERTISE OF OUR STAFF, WOULD YOU 20:09:35 CONSIDER THE BUILDING A SAFE BUILDING? 20:09:44 >> SO IT NOT FOR THIS STAFF MEMBER TO MAKE THAT 20:09:47 DECISION. AS I SAID, THE PLANNING MANAGER CONSULTED 20:09:50 WITH THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL WHO WENT OUT IN APRIL. 20:09:54 AND HE DETERMINED AT THAT TIME THAT IT 20:09:57 WASN'T AN IMMEDIATE OR 20:10:00 POTENTIAL HAZARD THAT WOULD 20:10:04 BE SUBJECT TO EMERGENCY DEMOLITION. 20:10:09 >> Councilmember Keng: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. 20:10:12 COUNCILMEMBER JONES, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. >> Councilmember Jones: 20:10:15 MR. ROTH , COULD YOU PUT UP THAT SLIDE AGAIN WITH THE 20:10:18 TWO CONCLUSIONS? I BELIEVE IT WAS THE LAST SLIDE YOU PUT UP. 20:10:22 >> Mayor Mei: IT WAS THE LAST SLIDE, YES. 20:10:27 >> Ms. Gauthier: I CAN SCREEN SHARE THAT. >> Mayor Mei: THAT WOULD 20:10:30 BE GREAT. 20:10:36 >> Councilmember Jones: SO JUST TO CLARIFY, IF WE 20:10:41 FOLLOW OPTION NUMBER 1 AND WE DETERMINE THE PROPERTY IS NOT A 20:10:45 POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCE, THEN OPTION NUMBER 20:10:48 TWO BASICALLY GOES AWAY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 20:10:52 >> Councilmember Jones: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. 20:10:56 VICE MAYOR SHAO, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? AND I WILL NOTE 20:10:59 THAT I'M LOOKING AT THE TIME, WE ARE DUE FOR A BREAK AT 20:11:02 8:15. >> Vice Mayor Shao: THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR. 20:11:05 ACTUALLY MY QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY 20:11:08 , DEBRA MARGOLIS. I JUST FOUND 20:11:11 OUT FROM GOOGLE MAP THAT THAT SIDE IS 20:11:15 WITHIN HALF A MILE FROM MY RESIDENCE 20:11:18 . EVEN THOUGH I DO NOT HAVE ANY 20:11:21 DIRECT OR INDIRECT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POTENTIAL BUYER AND THE 20:11:25 CURRENT OWNER. IN THAT CASE, SHALL I RECUSE 20:11:28 MYSELF FROM THIS ISSUE? 20:11:36 >> Ms. Margolis: HALF A MILE IS MORE THAN 500 FEET, IS IT NOT? 20:11:40 >> Mayor Mei: YES. >> Ms. Margolis: IF YOU'RE MORE THAN 500 FEET, 20:11:43 THEN YOU'RE OKAY TO PARTICIPATE. 20:11:47 >> Vice Mayor Shao: 20:11:50 IT IS DEFINITELY MORE THAN 500 FEET. IN THAT CASE, I JUST 20:11:53 HAVE ONE QUESTION. I KEPT 20:11:57 HEARING THAT 20:12:00 THE SITE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS A WHOLE AS TO 20:12:03 THE -- WHETHER IT'S HISTORIC OR NOT. 20:12:07 I JUST WANT TO ASK THE STAFF WHETHER TYPICALLY 20:12:10 WHEN WE LOOK AT A BUILDING, 20:12:14 WILL WE JUST LOOK AT THE BUILDING BY ITSELF OR 20:12:17 DO WE LOOK AT THE WHOLE SITE, FOR EXAMPLE 20:12:21 , REMEMBER WE HAVE THAT BOWL PLACE, 20:12:28 BOWLING PLACE, THERE WAS THE ISSUE WHETHER IT SHOULD BE REGISTERED 20:12:31 AS A HISTORIC BUILDING. AT THAT TIME, THE STANDARD FOR THAT 20:12:34 TISH 20:12:38 THAT ISSUE, IS THAT STILL APPLICABLE FOR 20:12:41 THIS SITE? THAT'S MY QUESTION. >> 20:12:44 IF WE GET A FULL FORMAL DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, IF WE 20:12:47 HAD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK 20:12:50 , AND IF THEY ARE PROPOSING AT THAT TIME JUST TO REMOVE 20:12:54 THE BARN AS OPPOSED TO OTHER STRUCTURES, WE 20:12:57 MOVE ON TO GET A REPORT FOR THAT. BUT AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE HAVE 20:13:00 IS A REPORT FOR THE ENTIRE 20:13:04 PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, OF WHICH CONTAINS 20:13:07 THREE PRIMARY STRUCTURES, THE HOUSE, THE TANKHOUSE AND THE BARN. 20:13:11 AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. AND 20:13:14 THEN WE HAVE THE SECOND DPR THAT FINDS 20:13:17 THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT A POTENTIAL REGISTER 20:13:20 RESOURCE. 20:13:27 SO THAT'S SORT OF THE SITUATION WE'RE IN WHEN 20:13:30 WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL TYPE OF REVIEW THAT WE WOULD DO BECAUSE EMERGENCY 20:13:33 DEMOLITIONS HAVE BEEN PROPOSED. SO IT'S NOT PACKAGED 20:13:36 WITH A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WHERE WE DO THAT FULL REVIEW. 20:13:41 >> Vice Mayor Shao: THANK YOU. >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, THERE 20:13:44 ARE -- I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, BUT BECAUSE I 20:13:47 KNOW -- I SAW EARLIER THERE ARE QUITE A FEW SPEAKERS, AN WE'RE DUE FOR 20:13:51 A BREAK AT 8:15, I'D LIKE TO CALL 20:13:54 A QUICK BREAK. SO WE'LL 20:13:57 TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND RETURN AT 20:14:00 8:23. SO AT THIS TIME, I'D 20:14:03 LIKE TO PUT A -- IF YOU 20:14:07 WERE GOING TO GO ON A BREAK, PLEASE BE SURE TO SILENCE 20:14:10 YOUR -- MUTE YOUR MIC AND ALSO YOUR VIDEO. 20:14:13 THANK YOU. SEE YOU BACK IN TEP 20:14:16 10 MINUTES. 20:15:50 20:15:51 20:22:50 >> Mayor Mei: I'D LIKE TO CALL PEOPLE BACK. WELCOME BACK 20:22:53 . 20:23:23 WELCOME BACK TO THE COUNCIL MEETING. I'D LIKE TO 20:23:26 CALL PEOPLE BACK TO ORDER. 20:23:39 AND I SEE, I THINK WE'RE MISSING A 20:23:42 COUPLE COUNCILMEMBERS. 20:23:49 COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, 20:23:53 COUNCILMEMBER SHAO. 20:23:57 AND WE'RE MISSING COUNCILMEMBER KENG 20:24:02 AND COUNCILMEMBER COX. >> Councilmember Cox: NO, I'M HERE 20:24:05 . >> Mayor Mei: OKAY, SORRY, GREAT. 20:24:08 COUNCILMEMBER KENG. OH, THERE SHE IS. 20:24:11 SO I SEE. IF EVERYONE'S BACK, I'M GOING TO 20:24:15 CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER AND WE'LL START WITH OUR 20:24:18 PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS, SO I THINK I'M GOING 20:24:21 TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. 20:24:28 SO I'M GOING TO CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> MADAM 20:24:31 MAYOR, WE HAVE MARY NO LAST NAME LISTED 20:24:34 FROM EARLIER. >> Mayor Mei: YES SO WE'LL 20:24:37 BEGIN WITH MARY. I THINK SHE WAS ASKED TO SPEAK 20:24:41 ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. WELCOME MARY. >> I APOLOGIZE, I 20:24:45 HAD ACTUALLY ACCIDENTALLY 20:24:48 -- >> Mayor Mei: MARY, YOU'RE ON MUTE AGAIN. 20:24:54 >> SORRY, NOR SOME REASON IT WENT ON MUTE. 20:24:57 I ACTUALLY PUSHED RAISE HAND EARLIER 20:25:01 , I MADE A MISTAKE. I'LL MAKE A COMMENT, YOUR TIME 20:25:04 IS VALUABLE. TO SAY OF THE HISTORIC 20:25:08 SITES OF FREMONT THE ONES THAT MEAN THE MOST TO ME ARE 20:25:11 THE OPERATING ONES SUCH AS ARDENWOOD AND WITH THIS SITE HAVING 20:25:14 HAD AS MANY REVISIONS AS IT HAS HAD RENOVATION 20:25:18 S IT DOES SEEM TO HAVE LOST SOME OF ITS 20:25:20 HISTORICAL VALUE SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. 20:25:25 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER 20:25:29 IS DOUG FORD. WELCOME. 20:25:42 >> OH. >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. YOU'RE NO LONGER ON MUTE SO I 20:25:45 CAN HEAR YOU DOUG. >> YES ANY NAME IS DOUG 20:25:49 FORD, LONG TIME RESIDENT OF FREMONT 20:25:52 AND IN SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED 20:25:55 BY MR. MEZETTI. A COUPLE OF 20:25:58 THINGS WOULD I EMPHASIZE, YOU'VE HEARD SOME 20:26:01 OF THIS BUT TO MAKE SURE IT REGISTERS. 20:26:04 NUMBER 1, BUILDINGS ON THE SITE HAVE 20:26:08 BEEN ALTERED SUBSTANTIALLY AND THAT BRINGS IN THE 20:26:10 QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ACTUALLY HISTORICAL. 20:26:13 NUMBER 2, TWO 20:26:17 LOTS AWAY FROM THIS SITE WAS A SIMILAR 20:26:20 SITE WITH SIMILAR STRUCTURES. TWO HOUSES 20:26:23 , A BARN AND A PUMP HOUSE. ONE OF THE 20:26:26 HOUSES, THE BARN AND THE 20:26:30 PUMP HOUSE WERE PERMITTED TO BE REMOVED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION 20:26:33 OF TOWN HOUSES. SO THERE'S A PRECEDENT FOR 20:26:36 REMOVING THESE KINDS OF OLDER BUILDINGS 20:26:40 . AND USING IT FOR BETTER PURPOSES. 20:26:43 THE THIRD POINT IS: I THINK 20:26:47 THE -- ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE 20:26:50 IS, AS 20:26:53 THE REPRESENTATIVE'S LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY AROUND 20:26:56 LAND USE, WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY? 20:26:59 TO MAINTAIN A DECREPIT 20:27:02 BARN, AND A SIGNIFICANTLY 20:27:05 ALTERED SING FAMILY HOME OR ALTERNATIVELY 20:27:08 , TO BE ABLE TO SITE 32 NEW 20:27:12 HOMES. AND GIVEN THE HOUSING CRISIS 20:27:15 THAT FREMONT AND CALIFORNIA IS IN, IT SEEMS TO 20:27:19 ME A VERY EASY DECISION TO SAY WE NEED MORE HOMES 20:27:22 , NOT FEWER. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Mei: 20:27:25 THANK YOU. AND THE NEXT SPEAKER IS 20:27:30 DICK PANTAGES. WELCOME 20:27:33 , DICK. 20:27:37 >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE 20:27:41 DICK AND SANDY PANTAGES 20:27:44 . WE'RE MEMBERS OF THE MISSION PEAK 20:27:47 COULD-HOUSING VILLAGE. WE HAVE LIVED 20:27:50 HERE FOR OVER 21 YEARS AND SANDY WORKED 20:27:53 IN FREMONT FOR OVER 32 YEARS BEFORE 20:27:57 SHE RETIRED. WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO FIND 20:28:00 THE PROPERTY IS NOT A HISTORIC RESOURCE, THE CONCLUSION OF THE 20:28:03 REPORT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR SEVEN 20:28:07 YEARS TO FIND A CO-HOUSING SITE IN FREMONT AND THIS IS 20:28:10 ONLY SITE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND. 20:28:13 IF YOU DENY THIS APPEAL, IT WILL 20:28:17 EFFECTIVELY END OUR SEARCH FOR A GREEN COMMUNITY. 20:28:20 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 20:28:22 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. THAT WAS THE LAST OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS. 20:28:30 >> FOR THE HARB? >> Mayor Mei: I'M GOING TO CLOSE 20:28:33 THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER 20:28:37 . >> PEOPLE DIDN'T SHOW UP. 20:28:41 >> Mayor Mei: MY APOLOGIES. IS SOMEONE 20:28:44 ELSE ON -- IF YOU COULD 20:28:47 MUTE URSA IF YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING 20:28:51 BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I HEARD ANOTHER SPEAKER JUST NOW 20:28:54 NOW. I'D LIKE TO TURN IT BACK TO THE 20:28:57 COUNCIL FOR -- WAIT, THERE'S A COUPLE MORE SPEAKERS BUT I'M CLOSING THE 20:29:00 PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS THE FINAL CALL. I SEE SOME 20:29:03 HAND JUST CAME UP BUT I -- 20:29:07 THAT WAS WHAT WE'D ASKED PEOPLE, THAT'S WHY WE 20:29:10 HAD THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS 20:29:13 TO WHY HANDS ARE NOW SHOWING UP. 20:29:17 BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE HAD OPENED UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. 20:29:21 I WILL ALLOW FOR LAST THREE SPEAKERS BECAUSE I'M 20:29:24 A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO -- WE OPENED THE PUBLIC COMMENT 20:29:27 AND THEN IF YOU RAISE YOUR HANDS WE CAN CALL ON YOU. 20:29:30 AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND 20:29:32 TURN IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION. 20:29:35 SO THE THREE SPEAKERS ARE ANN MORRISON 20:29:38 , DANIEL O'DONNELL AND LAURA 20:29:43 AND MATTHEW. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT 20:29:46 AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED THERE. IF WE COULD KEEP 20:29:49 THAT TO TWO MINUTES EACH SO WE CAN GET IT BACK TO THE 20:29:52 COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION. >> I'M SORRY, MADAM MAYOR, HOW 20:29:55 MANY MINUTES DID YOU SAY? >> WE'VE BEEN DOING THREE MINUTES 20:29:58 . >> Mayor Mei: OKAY WE'LL JUST KEEP IT THREE THEN, IT'S NOT 20:30:02 GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, THREE MINUTES TOTAL. >> I'LL 20:30:05 ALLOW -- >> Mayor Mei: I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT 20:30:08 PERIOD AFTER THIS. I WAS A LIMB CONFUSED, I CLOSE 20:30:11 ED IT ALREADY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, 20:30:14 HANDS WENT BACK UP. >> MADAM MAYOR. 20:30:17 YOU WANT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THESE THREE 20:30:19 SPEAKERS. >> Mayor Mei: I'M GOING TO 20:30:22 OPEN IT FOR THESE THREE, AND THEN CLOSE IT. IT 20:30:25 SEEMED IT WAS MISSED. >> WE'LL ALLOW ANN MORRISON 20:30:28 TO SPEAK FIRST. >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. 20:30:31 >> HI, THANK YOU MAYOR MEI. 20:30:34 I THINK I'M SPEAKING FOR A FEW OTHER 20:30:37 PUBLIC MEMBERS WHO ARE SIMPLY CONFUSED BY RAISING HANDS 20:30:38 HANDS. ANYWAY THANK YOU. 20:30:41 I'VE LIVED AROUND THE CORNER FROM THIS PROPERTY FOR OVER 20:30:45 20 YEARS AND I'VE GROWN PRETTY INTERESTED IN DEVELOPMENT 20:30:48 AROUND OUR AREA LOCALLY WHAT GOES UP AND WHAT COMES DOWN 20:30:51 SO I'VE SEEN THE BARN FROM THE BACK SIDE AND I CAN TELL YOU 20:30:54 AS A LOCAL, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT INTERESTING. 20:30:57 I UNDERSTAND THAT THE THREE BUILDINGS HAVE TO BE TAKEN AS 20:31:00 KIND OF A PACKAGE DEAL. AND 20:31:03 I WOULD URGE COUNCIL 20:31:07 TO NOT CONSIDER THESE BUILDINGS ON THE SITE AS 20:31:10 A POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCE. I THINK IF YOU DO, 20:31:13 WE LOSE MY AREA, LOSES AN 20:31:16 OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME REALLY INTERESTING RESIDENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT 20:31:19 . I THINK CO-HOUSING GROUP HAS A PLAN THAT HAS 20:31:23 A GREAT ADDITION. THANK YOU. 20:31:26 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, 20:31:29 SORRY, WOULD BE DANIEL 20:31:33 O'DONNELL. WELCOME. 20:31:38 >> HELLO. 20:31:41 HI, MY NAME IS DANIEL O' 20:31:44 DONNELL AND I'M A LONG TERM RESIDENT OF FREMONT. 20:31:47 . I 20:31:51 GREW UP IN NORTHERN FREMONT AND MOVED TO 20:31:54 IRVINGTON ABOUT 21 YEARS AGO. I'M VERY 20:31:57 FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY AND ALL THE CHANGES. AS WELL AS I HAVE A 20:32:00 DEGREE, A HISTORY DEGREE FROM SAN JOSE 20:32:03 STATE. SO I CAN APPRECIATE 20:32:07 HISTORICAL PRESERVATION. MY 20:32:10 MOTHER WORKED WITH MS. MIMI, 20:32:12 WHO WAS THE PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER. 20:32:15 I THINK SHE'S THE MOTHER OF THE CURRENT OWNER. AND 20:32:19 SHE BECAME GOOD FRIENDS WITH MS. MIMI 20:32:22 , SO I KNOW THE PROPERTY WELL, AS WELL. 20:32:27 I'VE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH HER AND THE PROPERTY FOR OVER 30 20:32:31 YEARS. I THINK AS A POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCE, THE 20:32:34 BARN WOULD FAR BE BETTER SERVING THE 20:32:37 COMMUNITY IF IT WAS REPURPOSED IN 20:32:40 A STYLE THAT JUST DOWN THE STREET, 20:32:44 THE HIGH STREET 20:32:48 SQUARE COMPLEX DID. THAT REALLY GOT 20:32:51 THE ESSENCE OF WHAT 20:32:55 HISTORIC FARMING -- WHAT OUR HISTORIC FARMING AND 20:32:58 OUR COMMUNITY MIGHT HAVE BEEN 20:33:01 LIKE. I DON'T THINK THE BARN WHICH ISN'T REALLY VISIBLE 20:33:05 FROM THE STREET ANYWAYS WITH ALL THE CHANGES I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY 20:33:08 ELSE, WITH ALL THE DHAINGS IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE THAT 20:33:11 HISTORICAL ESSENCE. AND LIKE I SAID, THE COMMUNITY 20:33:14 WOULD BE SERVED MUCH BETTER, IF THE BARN 20:33:18 WAS USED, REPURPOSED TO BE USED 20:33:21 IN ENHANCING THE PROJECT 20:33:24 THAT THE CO-HOUSING PROJECT. WITH THAT, THANK YOU. 20:33:30 >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU DANIEL. AND THE LAST AND FINAL 20:33:33 SPEAKER IS LAURA 20:33:38 AND MATTHEW. >> THANK YOU SO 20:33:41 MUCH! WE APPRECIATE HAVING 20:33:44 AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK HERE RIGHT NOW 20:33:48 . MATTHEW AND I ARE EDUCATE 20:33:51 ORS, LONG TEEM EDUCATORRORS 20:33:58 TIME EDUCATORS. WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT MOVING TO 20:34:01 FREMONT AND CONTRIBUTING TO THIS 20:34:05 ENERGETIC 20:34:08 ENERGETIC CITY AND DIVERSE CITY. UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE NOT ABLE TO 20:34:11 DID THAT UNLESS WE ARE PART OF CO-HOUSING. 20:34:14 AND CO-HOUSING WOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE INTO FREMONT 20:34:18 FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 20:34:21 SO WE URGE YOU TO PLEASE 20:34:25 SUPPORT MASETT 20:34:28 I'S APPEAL REGARDING THE 20:34:31 40871 HIGH STREET AND WE HAVE 20:34:35 REVIEWED ALL THE EVIDENCE REGARDING THIS BUILDING. 20:34:38 AND WE CONCLUDED THAT IT'S NOT LONG 20:34:42 ER A HISTORIC SITE. SO 20:34:46 THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE 20:34:49 IN REVISING ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT TO THE CITY 20:34:53 COUNCIL. AND WE ARE HERE 20:34:56 REALLY, LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR 20:34:59 SUPPORT, AGAIN, OF 20:35:03 BENJAMIN MASETTI 20:35:06 'S APPEAL REGARDING THE 20:35:10 40178 HIGH STREET. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Mei: 20:35:13 THANK YOU. TILT I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE 20:35:16 COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION. MS. GAUTHIER 20:35:20 , MAY I ASK IF YOU CAN PLEASE BRING 20:35:23 UP THE LAST SLIDE. >> I CAN, MADAM MAYOR 20:35:26 . >> Mayor Mei: I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT -- 20:35:29 >> CAN YOU CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THE 20:35:32 APPELLANT HAS FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. >> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU FOR 20:35:35 THAT CLARIFICATION. >> The Clerk: I'LL TIME 20:35:38 IT ON MY END. >> Mayor Mei: I KNOW 20:35:41 WE HAD THREE SPEAKERS FOR THE APPELLANT. 20:35:44 WHOMEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OR YOU CAN SHARE 20:35:47 IT BUT IT'S TOTAL FIVE MINUTES. >> WELL, WE 20:35:51 COULD DIVIDE IT BETWEEN BONNIE AND ME BUT I DON'T KNOW 20:35:54 WHAT TO REBUT. IT FEELS TO ME AS IF -- THE 20:35:57 ONE THING THAT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO 20:36:01 UNDERSTAND. AND THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD DO 20:36:05 THIS BETTER THAN I SO 20:36:08 COULD, IS THIS IS 20:36:12 AN APPEAL OF A 20:36:15 SPECIFIC DETERMINATION BY THE PLANNING MANAGER, AND THE 20:36:18 HISTORIC DETERMINATION WAS THAT THE PROPERTY AS A WHOLE WAS A 20:36:22 POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCE. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND 20:36:25 WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE BARN ANYMORE. 20:36:30 >> Mayor Mei: OKAY. AND IS THERE ANY 20:36:33 OTHER COMMENT? I DON'T KNOW, MS. GAUTHIER 20:36:37 , YOUR TIMING, IS THE OTHER PARTY, BONNIE, DID YOU 20:36:40 WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE TOTAL IT'S FIVE 20:36:43 MINUTES COMBINED. I'M SORRY, BONNIE 20:36:46 YOU ARE ON MUTE. 20:37:03 YOU'RE STILL ON MUTE, I'M SORRY. THERE. 20:37:06 >> THERE WE GO, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 20:37:09 NO, I THINK MY CLOSING COMMENTS 20:37:13 ARE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN ECHOED BY PEOPLE WHO I THINK 20:37:16 ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. THAT 20:37:19 THE ALTERATION, THE CHANGES, 20:37:23 THE DISCONTINUOUS USE 20:37:26 WITH A HOUSE THAT IS MUCH NEWER THAN THE BARN 20:37:30 , OR THE TANK HOUSE, REALLY DOES NOT CREATE 20:37:33 THE SENSE OF SETTING 20:37:37 AND FEELING THAT'S NECESSARY TO 20:37:40 COMMUNICATE WHAT IS COMPOSE 20:37:44 ED IN THE PAGE AND TURN 20:37:47 BULL REPORT. >> Mayor Mei: OKAY, THANK YOU. 20:37:51 AND AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL 20:37:54 THEN FOR THE COMMENTS AND DELIBERATION ON THIS TOPIC 20:37:57 AND IF WE COULD BRING UP THAT SLIDE TOO, I THINK 20:38:00 BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT THE SUMMARY OF THE KEY CONSIDERATIONS 20:38:04 . WHILE CERTAINLY I THINK MANY OF US HAVE SUPPORT FOR CO- 20:38:07 HOUSING AND OTHER THINGS, THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION FOR THIS EVENING FOR 20:38:10 US. THE QUESTION PERTAINS TO 20:38:13 SPECIFICALLY AS FOLLOWS, DOES THE EVIDENCE SUPPORT 20:38:17 THE CONCLUSION THAT THE PROPERTY IS POTENTIAL HISTORIC 20:38:20 RESOURCE. AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS A CLARIFYING QUESTION 20:38:23 FROM COUNCILMEMBER JONES WHICH IS IF WE DON'T CONSIDER IT A 20:38:26 HISTORIC RESOURCE THEN IT KIND OF MAKES THE SECOND QUESTION 20:38:30 MORE NULL AND VOID IN TERMS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD 20:38:33 HAVE MORE DISCRETION. AND AS FOR THE ACTUAL 20:38:36 DEVELOPMENT OF IT AS A CO-HOUSING 20:38:40 -- >> RECORDING STOPPED RECORDING 20:38:42 IN PROGRESS. >> Mayor Mei: OKAY, WE'LL BE 20:38:45 LOOKING AT THE OVERALL PLANS 20:38:48 WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE. LET'S LOOK 20:38:51 AT THE QUESTION AT HAND, THE SUMMARY 20:38:55 OF OVERALL CONCLUSION 20:38:56 S. COUNCILMEMBER COX. >> Councilmember Cox: THANK 20:39:00 YOU. I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, WE TALKED ABOUT WHETHER THE BARN 20:39:03 WOULD COLLAPSE OR IT WOULD NOT HOLD UP IN ANY TYPE OF 20:39:08 SEISMIC ACTIONS 20:39:11 THAT OCCUR. I'M ALSO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. IS THERE A 20:39:15 FIRE HAZARD AND HAS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT BEEN OUT THERE 20:39:18 TO INSPECT AS WELL? 20:39:23 >> NOT TO MY MANY, GO. I BELIEVE IT'S JUST THE BUILDING 20:39:26 OFFICIAL THAT WAS SENT OUT. >> Councilmember Cox: OKAY 20:39:29 . BUT THERE WAS NEVER ANYTHING THAT WAS EVEN 20:39:33 QUALIFIED AS A FIRE HAZARD? THAT WAS 20:39:36 DETERMINED IN ANY OF THE REPORTS? I NEVER SAW ANYTHING TO THAT 20:39:39 EFFECT. IT WAS JUST GENERALLY HAZARD AND 20:39:42 NOT SPECIFIC IN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS. 20:39:46 >> I DON'T RECALL THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THAT THE APPLICANT HIRED MENTION 20:39:49 ING THAT. AND NOR WAS THAT RELATED TO 20:39:53 ME FROM THE PLANNING MANAGER FROM HIS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE 20:39:56 BUILDING OFFICIAL. I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THAT -- I 20:39:59 MEAN THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ONE OF THE FINDINGS 20:40:02 , I GUESS, FOR EMERGENCY DEMOLITION. MAYBE 20:40:05 I CAN PULL THAT UP HERE. 20:40:08 >> Councilmember Cox: YEAH BECAUSE USUALLY IF YOU LOOK AT 20:40:11 BUILDINGS YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IT AS A -- THAT WOULD BE 20:40:13 ANOTHER TYPE OF HAZARD. YOU KNOW? 20:40:17 THAT WOULD BE THE SAME IF IT'S A HOSPITAL OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF BUILDING THAT 20:40:20 THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED AS RISK OR LIFE OR SAFETY 20:40:24 ASSESSMENT. 20:40:27 >> YEAH AND I THINK TO THAT POINT THAT 20:40:30 COULD BE A CONSIDERATION. I'M JUST LOOKING 20:40:33 AT BASICALLY THE FINDINGS AND THAT'S ON PAGE 220 20:40:37 OF THE AGENDA PACKET WHERE WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION WITH THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS 20:40:40 AND THEN BASICALLY THE FINDING FOR EMERGENCY DEMOLITION 20:40:44 WOULD BE DEFINED AT THE POTENTIAL REGISTER RESOURCE 20:40:47 IF RETAINED AT ITS PRESENT LOCATION 20:40:51 WOULD CREATE A IMMEDIATE OR POTENTIAL HAZARD 20:40:54 TO BUILDING STRUCTURES OR POTENTIAL OCCUPANTS 20:40:58 OR ANIMAL ON ANY OR 20:41:01 ADJACENT LOT. IT SPEAKS ABOUT IMMEDIATE OR 20:41:04 ADJACENT HAZARD AND DOESN'T SAY NECESSARILY WHETHER 20:41:08 THAT'S SEISMIC OR FIRE OR ANYTHING ELSE. 20:41:11 >> Councilmember Cox: OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO 20:41:14 MAKE A MOTION THAT IS NOT DETERMINED 20:41:18 TO BE HISTORICAL.