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JUSTICE FOR ALL.

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THANK YOU.

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MAY I ASK FOR A ROLL CALL, 

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PLEASE.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: COUNCILMEMBER 

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COX, HERE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, PRESENT.

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COUNCILMEMBER KASSAN, HERE.

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COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL, HERE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG, HERE.

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VICE MAYOR SHAO, PRESENT.

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MAYOR MEI, HERE.

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>> Mayor Mei: AND AT THIS TIME 

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I'D LIKE TO SHARE THERE ARE 

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VACANCIES ON OUR BOARDS AND 

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COMMISSIONS AND THE CITY CLERK'S 

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OFFICE ACCEPTS APPLICATIONS FOR 

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ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS 

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THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

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IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN 

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APPLYING, PLEASE GO TO THE 

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BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND 

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COMMITTEES PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE 

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AT FREMONT.GOV, AND ALSO IF YOU 

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HAVE QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO 

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CONTACT OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE 

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AT 510-284-4060.

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EMAILS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY 

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CLERK ARE COMPILED, DISTRIBUTED 

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AND PLACED ON THE CITY'S AGENDA 

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CENTER ON FREMONT.GOV AND 

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THEY'RE DISTRIBUTED TO OUR 

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COUNCIL, AND THEY'RE CONSIDERED 

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PART OF OUR PUBLIC RECORD.

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I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE 

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MEETING WILL GO UP UNTIL 11:30 

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P.M. THIS EVENING IF NEEDED, AND 

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WE WILL ALLOW FOR 30 MINUTES OF 

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GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND IF 

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THERE'S ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS FOR 

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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS AFTER THE 

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INITIAL 30 MINUTES, WE WILL TAKE 

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THOSE SPEAKERS AT THE END OF THE 

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MEETING IF TIME REMAINS.

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AND I WILL NOW TURN THE MEETING 

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OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER, KARENA 

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SHACKELFORD, TO MAKE ANY 

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ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TO INTRODUCE 

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HER STAFF AT THIS TIME.

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: THANK 

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YOU, MAYOR MEI.

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GOOD EVENING TO YOU AND GOOD 

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EVENING TO MEMBERS OF THE 

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COUNCIL.

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BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION, I HAVE 

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TO THE LEFT OF ME OUR CITY 

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ATTORNEY, RAFAEL ALVARADO.

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ACROSS FROM US IS ASSISTANT CITY 

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CLERK, DINA LEWIS, AND NEXT TO 

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DINA IS OUR CITY CLERK, SUSAN 

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GAUTHIER.

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I DON'T HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS 

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THIS EVENING, SO I'LL TURN IT 

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BACK TO YOU, MAYOR MEI.

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>> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU.

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AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO BRING 

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UP THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM, 

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AND THE CONSENT CALENDAR ARE 

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ITEMS THAT WILL BE PASSED WITH 

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ONE COUNCIL VOTE AND THE STAFF 

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RECOMMENDATION WILL STAND.

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DOES ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL 

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WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE 

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CONSENT CALENDAR?

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COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL.

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>> Councilmember Campbell: YES, 

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PLEASE.

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I HAVE QUESTIONS ON ITEM 2E.

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>> Mayor Mei: OKAY.

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SO 2E, WHICH IS OUR FISCAL 

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AUDIT.

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DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR 

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ANY OF THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT 

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CALENDAR?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: WE HAVE A 

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SPEAKER CARD FOR 2E.

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>> Mayor Mei: OKAY, GREAT.

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SO EXCLUDING ITEM 2E, IS THERE A 

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MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO 

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APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR 

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EXCLUDING ITEM 2E?

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MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN.

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AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER 

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COX.

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I BELIEVE WE MAY HAVE A 

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COUNCILMEMBER THIS EVENING 

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ONLINE, IS THAT CORRECT?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THAT'S 

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CORRECT.

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>> Mayor Mei: SO IF WE COULD 

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HAVE A ROLL CALL BY -- IN

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 TERMS OF -- VERSUS THE BUTTON 

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USE.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: WE'LL DO THE 

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ROLL CALL VOTE.

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COUNCILMEMBER COX, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KASSAN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG, AYE.

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VICE MAYOR SHAO, AYE.

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MAYOR MEI, AYE.

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SO THE CONSENT CALENDAR PASSES 

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EXCLUDING ITEM 2E, AND WE'LL 

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COME BACK TO THAT AFTER ORAL 

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COMMUNICATIONS.

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AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO 

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PRESENT A CEREMONIAL ITEM WHICH 

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IS FOR ARBOR DAY.

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WHICH IS MAY 14TH, 2024.

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AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE JARVIS

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 LEUNG, KATHY STEELE-SABO AND 

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REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR LOCAL 

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URBAN FORESTRY NON-PROFIT, URBAN 

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FOREST FRIENDS, AND FROM THE 

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CITY, CHRIS CURRY, URBAN FOR 

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INDUSTRY, AS WELL AS KIM 

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BERANEK, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES 

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DIRECTOR.

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VAGUELY FAMILIAR.

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I'M

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 GLAD WE STILL RECYCLE

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 --

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 ARBOR DAY IS ON MAY 14, 2024.

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 WHEREAS, ON APRIL 23, 2024 THE 

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CITY OF FREMONT WAS RECOGNIZED 

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AS A TREE CITY USA FOR THE 27TH 

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STRAIGHT YEAR BY THE NATIONAL 

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ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION; AND 

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WHEREAS, ARBOR DAY WAS FIRST 

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OBSERVED IN 1872 WITH THE 

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PLANTING OF MORE THAN ONE 

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MILLION TREES, AND ARBOR DAY IS 

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NOW OBSERVED THROUGHOUT THE 

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NATION AND THE WORLD; AND 

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WHEREAS, FREMONT'S ANNUAL ARBOR 

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DAY CELEBRATION PROMOTES PUBLIC 

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AWARENESS AND COMMUNITY PRIDE 

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THROUGH KNOWLEDGE AND 

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APPRECIATION OF TREES; AND 

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WHEREAS, THE CITY OF FREMONT 

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RECOGNIZES THE EFFORTS OF LOCAL 

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VOLUNTEERS AND RESIDENTS IN THE 

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PLANTING AND CARE OF TREES 

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THROUGHOUT FREMONT; AND WHEREAS, 

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TREES, WHEREVER THEY ARE 

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PLANTED, ARE A SOURCE OF JOY, 

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SPIRITUAL RENEWAL, AND 

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ENVIRONMENTAL AND MUNICIPAL 

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BENEFITS; AND WHEREAS, FREMONT 

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INCREASED ITS NUMBER OF PUBLIC 

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TREES AND THE SIZE OF THE URBAN 

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TREE CANOPY BY PLANTING MORE 

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THAN 800 TREES THROUGH STAFF 

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PLANTING PROJECTS, VOLUNTEER

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 CONTRIBUTIONS,  AND DEVELOPMENT 

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PLANTINGS; AND WHEREAS, FREMONT 

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COMPLETED VITAL MAINTENANCE ON 

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MORE THAN 1,200 TREES THROUGH 

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INTERNAL STAFF AND EXTERNAL 

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VENDORS; AND WHEREAS, FREMONT 

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ADOPTED AN URBAN FOREST 

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MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WILL GUIDE 

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THE CITY IN REACHING GOALS OF 

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SUFFICIENT, SUSTAINABLE, AND 

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EQUITABLE TREE CANOPY; AND NOW, 

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THEREFORE, THE CITY COUNCIL OF 

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THE CITY OF FREMONT, PROCLAIMS 

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MAY 14, 2024 AS THE CITY OF 

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FREMONT'S ARBOR DAY AND 

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ENCOURAGES ALL RESIDENTS OF 

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FREMONT TO PLANT AND CARE FOR 

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TREES, AS THEY PROMOTE THE 

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WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR 

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THIS AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.

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AND I THINK ACCEPTING FIRST ON 

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BEHALF OF THE URBAN FOREST 

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FRIENDS IS JARVIS LEUNG, AND 

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KATHY STEELE-SABO.

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>> THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR AND 

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COUNCILMEMBERS FOR HONORING 

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URBAN FOREST FRIENDS AND ARBOR 

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DAY.

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I HAVE WITH ME JARVIS LEUNG AND 

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BOB MOSE, TWO VOLUNTEERS, AND 

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THIS YEAR URBAN FOREST FRIENDS 

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HAS ENGAGED 155 ADULTS AND YOUTH 

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VOLUNTEERS IN EXPANDING OUR TREE 

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CANOPY BY PLANTING TREES.

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MANY OF THOSE ADULTS AND YOUTH 

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KEEP COMING BACK TO PLANT MORE 

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TREES AND THIS IS ACTUALLY NO 

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SMALL THING, BECAUSE PLANTING 

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TREES IS A LOT OF WORK.

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SO AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, AND AS WE 

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DO, THAT A DENSE CANOPY OF 

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HEALTHY TREES MEANS CLEANER AIR, 

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COOLING SHADE THAT HELPS OUR 

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CITY BATTLE RISING TEMPERATURES 

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AND REDUCES ENERGY COSTS.

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AND URBAN FOREST FRIENDS HAS A 

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REQUEST OF THE MAYOR AND THE 

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COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF.

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WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ENACTED AN 

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ORDINANCE TO RE-GROW AND EXPAND 

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FREMONT'S STREET TREE CANOPY.

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OVER THE YEARS, MANY OF THE 

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STREET TREES IN OUR OLDER 

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NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE DIED AND HAVE 

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NOT BEEN REPLACED.

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A STREET TREE ORDINANCE WOULD 

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MEAN WORKING WITH HOME OTHER 

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THANS, CITY STAFF AND SOMETIMES 

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REALTORS TO ENSURE THAT NEW 

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TREES WOULD BE PLANTED AND 

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PROTECTED TO BEAUTIFY ALL OUR 

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NEIGHBORHOODS.

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.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> Mayor Mei: THIS IS FOR

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 YOU.

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NEXT I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO 

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OUR URBAN FOR

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 FORESTRY --

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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JUST -- I'VE BEEN IN THIS 

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POSITION NOT EVEN A YEAR YET, 

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BUT I'M VERY EXCITED WITH BOTH

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 THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO ME 

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INTERNALLY AND THE RESOURCES 

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FROM THE FANTASTIC VOLUNTEERS IN 

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THE COMMUNITY HERE.

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I REALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT WHAT 

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WE CAN DO WITH TREES AND I FEEL 

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THAT THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL 

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AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT 

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HAS WORKED WITH ME.

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SO THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

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>> LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST 

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IS OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES 

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DIRECTOR, KIM BERANEK, AND SHE 

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WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOME THINGS 

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ON BEHALF OF OUR ENTIRE 

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DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO 

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THIS WITH ALL MEMBERS OF OUR 

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STAFF SO WE WANTED TO THANK ALL 

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OF YOU FOR HELPING US MAKE THIS 

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HAPPEN AND THE COORDINATION.

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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL 

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AND THE MAYOR, URBAN FOREST 

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FRIENDS FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO 

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TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND OUR URBAN 

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FOREST.

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YOU KNOW, WE PASSED OUR URBAN

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 FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN LAST 

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YEAR, WE'RE EXCITED AND CONTINUE 

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TO STRIVE TO MEET OUR GOAL OF 

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800 TREES PLANTED ANNUALLY AND 

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HOPEFULLY GET TO A THOUSAND SO 

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BETWEEN ALL OF US WORKING HARD, 

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WE HOPE TO MEET THAT GOAL AND 

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CONTINUE TO DO GREAT WORK FOR 

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FREMONT.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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[APPLAUSE]

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>> Mayor Mei: THIS IS INDEED 

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WONDERFUL.

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I WANTED TO THANK ALSO SO MANY 

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OF OUR FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS AND 

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COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO CAME OUT.

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WE'VE HAD SOME RECENT TREE 

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PLANTINGS AS RECENT AS JUST A 

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FEW WEEKS AGO, AND SOMETIMES 

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WE'RE SO LUCKY THAT NOT ONLY DO 

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WE GET ONE VOLUNTEER, WE BUY 

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ONE, GET ONE VOLUNTEER FREE, 

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DEPENDING ON THE FAMILIES, AND 

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THEY COME OUT TO HELP US TOO.

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SO WE'RE REALLY LUCKY THAT 

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THERE'S MULTIPLE PEOPLE, AND 

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IT'S A GREAT WAY -- I SEE THE 

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SCOUTS OUT IN THE AUDIENCE TOO, 

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THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S 

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WONDERFUL IF WE CAN GET MORE 

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SCOUTS AND SO MANY PEOPLE WANT 

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TO HELP MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR 

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COMMUNITY.

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IT'S A GREAT WAY TO HELP US.

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SO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THE 

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TREE PLANTINGS AND PLEASE JOIN 

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US, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING 

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MANY HANDS MAKE LIGHT WORK.

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AND SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL 

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OF YOU FOR THAT.

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NEXT ON OUR CALENDAR IS PUBLIC 

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COMMUNICATIONS, ORAL 

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COMMUNICATIONS.

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AND IF WE -- HOW

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 MANY SPEAKER CARDS DO WE HAVE?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: JUST ONE.

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>> Mayor Mei: WE'LL GIVE HIM 

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THREE MINUTES.

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WELCOME, KELLY.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: IT'S NOT 

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KELLY.

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IT'S ALLEN CLARK PIERCE FOR ORAL 

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COMMUNICATIONS.

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>> Mayor Mei: PLEASE PRESS THE 

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BUTTON.

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YES.

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>> LIKE THIS?

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>> Mayor Mei: YES.

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>>  --

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 I DON'T WANT TO WEAR THIS MASK 

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BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S IN MY BEST 

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INTEREST TO WEAR THIS MASK.

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I DO A LOT OF COMMUNITY WORK, 

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SOME OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THE 

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COMMUNITY WORK I DO.

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SOMETIMES THEY CALL ME A 

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VIGILANTE BUT I DON'T BREAK THE 

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LAW, I PROMISE.

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FIRST OFF I JUST WANT TO CAN 

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 CONGRATULATE YOU ON THE AMAZING

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 JOB, THE FRIEDEN TALL WORK, 

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EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO FOR THE 

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HOMELESS, EMERGENCY HOUSING, IT 

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MAKES MY LIFE EASIER.

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I GUESS --

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 ONE SECOND.

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HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE?

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TWO MINUTES?

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OKAY.

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: YOU 

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DON'T HAVE TO HOLD THE BUTTON, 

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MR. CLARK.

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>> OH, THANK YOU.

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I GUESS THE ARBOR DAY FOR ME 

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WHEN I WAKE UP, I WONDER IF A 

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HOMELESS PERSON IS GOING TO HIT 

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ME WITH A PIPE OR IS -- GOING TO 

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GUN ME DOWN TODAY?

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YOU KNOW, LIKE OUR POLICE ARE 

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GREATLY UNDERSTAFFED, WE ONLY 

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HAVE FOUR PEOPLE ON PATROL.

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REALLY I'M THE ONLY THING 

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STANDING BETWEEN THESE BAD GUYS 

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AND THE KIDS, YOU KNOW?

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I'VE BEEN CATCHING A LOT OF 

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PEOPLE USING METH IN FRONT OF 

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KIDS AT THE HUB.

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I'M REALLY THE ONLY PERSON 

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STANDING BETWEEN FENTANYL AND 

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KIDS.

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THE POLICE IS SO UNDERSTAFFED, 

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THE DISPATCH IS UNDERSTAFFED.

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I'M HERE TO START MY PROTEST TO 

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DOUBLE THE DISPATCH AND DOUBLE 

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THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, SO I CAN 

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SURVIVE.

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YOU KNOW?

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I TELL A LOT OF MEN, I HAVE MORE 

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INTEGRITY THAN YOU, YOU LIVE 

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LIKE A WOMAN.

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SAY THAT A LOT TO A LOT OF MEN.

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BUT I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO 

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SURVIVE, YOU KNOW, I'M THE CEO 

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OF A NON-PROFIT AND I'M OUT 

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THERE ON THE STREETS, YOU KNOW, 

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STANDING BETWEEN THESE BAD 

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PEOPLE AND THE KIDS.

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AND THE POLICE NEED HELP 

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PATROLLING.

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THAT'S REALLY ALL I CAN SAY.

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I JUST COME HERE BECAUSE I DO MY 

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BEST AND I PROMISE YOU I'M NOT A 

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VIGILANTE, I'M JUST A HARD CORE 

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JOURNALIST.

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PEOPLE CALL ME THE NEXT BRUCE 

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WAYNE, PEOPLE CALL ME BATMAN ALL 

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THE TIME BUT I PROMISE YOU, I'M 

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JUST A JOURNALIST.

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>> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU.

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ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: NOT FOR ORAL 

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COMMUNICATION, NO.

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>> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU.

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AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO CLOSE 

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THE ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.

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AND WE'LL RETURN TO OUR 

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REGULARLY SCHEDULED ITEMS BUT 

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FIRST WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ITEM 

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WHICH WAS PULLED, WHICH IS ITEM 

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2E, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE BOTH A 

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PUBLIC SPEAKER CARD AS WELL AS 

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OUR COUNCILMEMBER.

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WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR THE 

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PUBLIC SPEAKER FIRST OR -- 

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SURE.

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IF WE CAN CALL THE PUBLIC 

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SPEAKER FOR ITEM 2E.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: KELLY ABREU.

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>> THIS AUDIT WAS, YOU KNOW, 

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CONDUCTED JUST LIKE ALL THE 

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OTHER AUDITS AND CAME TO THE 

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SAME CONCLUSIONS AND RESULTS AS 

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ALL THE OTHER AUDITS.

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BEAUTIFUL MARKS AND CLEAN 

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RESULTS.

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BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 

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REPORTS YOU WERE RECEIVING, IN 

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MAY OF 2023, YOU WERE TOLD THAT 

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EXPENDITURES WOULD REACH $248 

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MILLION.

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AND BY THE WAY, THE MAY 

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ESTIMATES ARE ONLY TWO MONTHS 

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BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, 

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THEY'RE ALMOST -- THE YEAR HAS 

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ALREADY GONE BY, SO THEY'RE 

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EXTREMELY ACCURATE.

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THEY'RE USUALLY WITHIN SOMETHING 

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LIKE 2, 3% OF THE FINAL NUMBER.

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VERY ACCURATE.

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BUT THIS TIME, IT WASN'T 

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ACCURATE.

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IT WAS 6% OFF.

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AND THE FINAL NUMBER INSTEAD OF 

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BEING $248 MILLION AS YOU WERE 

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TOLD IN MAY 2023, AND AGAIN YOU 

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WERE TOLD THE SAME NUMBER IN

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 NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023, BOTH TIMES 

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YOU WERE TOLD THE SAME NUMBER, 

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ALMOST.

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WITHIN -- ALMOST WITHIN A FEW 

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DOLLARS.

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THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, SIX, SEVEN 

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-- TWO MONTHS LATER, IN LATE 

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DECEMBER, THE NUMBER JUMPED BY 

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ANOTHER $15 MILLION.

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THIS IS THE RESULT -- COULD BE 

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RELATED TO CONFUSION.

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YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE SAVINGS, HAVE 

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YOU HEARD THAT CITYWIDE SAVINGS 

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ARE THE RESULT OF UNFILLED 

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VACANCIES, AND THERE WERE ALL 

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THOSE VACANCIES THERE IN MAY, I 

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GUESS YOU COULD SEE THEM, AND 

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MAYBE YOU THOUGHT THEY WERE 

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THERE IN NOVEMBER, BUT MAYBE 

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THEY HAD ALL BEEN FILLED.

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MAYBE THERE WERE NO VACANCIES.

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OR MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO 

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COUNT SPENDING.

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MAYBE YOUR SPREADSHEETS DON'T.

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 WORK.

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I HAVE A SPREADSHEET HERE BUT 

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MAYBE YOURS DON'T WORK.

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I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, 

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BUT SOMEHOW FIVE MONTHS, FOUR, 

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FIVE MONTHS AFTER THE END OF THE 

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FISCAL YEAR, YOU STILL HAD NO 

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IDEA, NO GOOD IDEA OF HOW MUCH 

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MONEY YOU SPENT.

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AND THEN IN LATE DECEMBER, 

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BINGO, WE'RE NOW SPENDING $262 

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MILLION.

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AND BY THE WAY, THAT FISCAL

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 YEAR, 2023, IS TRULY A LANDMARK 

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YEAR.

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TRULY A LANDMARK IN SPENDING.

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BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS YEAR, YOU 

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SPENT 25% LESS, YOU ONLY SPENT 

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211.

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THIS WAS A MASSIVE JUMP, AND OF 

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THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FIXED COSTS 

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LIKE SALARIES AND THINGS AND 

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DEPARTMENTAL COSTS WAS A 17% 

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JUMP, AND YOU DIDN'T GIVE OUT 

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17% RAISES, SO THAT ALSO 

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CONFUSED ME.

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HOW DID YOU JUMP -- NOW, IF YOU 

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LOOK INTO THE FUTURE YEARS, 

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THAT'S THE NEW BENCHMARK.

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YOU WANT TO KEEP SPENDING AT 

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THIS HIGH RATE AND KEEP IT FLAT 

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NOW AND CALL THAT FISCAL 

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PRUDENCE.

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WELL, I WOULD LIKE ACCURATE 

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FINANCIAL REPORTING.

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>> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU.

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NEXT IS COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL.

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I BELIEVE YOU PULLED THIS ITEM.

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>> Councilmember Campbell: YES, 

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I DID.

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THANK YOU, I APOLOGIZE IN 

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ADVANCE, TIME GOT AWAY WITH ME 

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AND I REALLY WANTED TO CHECK IN 

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WITH YOU BEFORE I ANSWERED THESE 

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QUESTIONS BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, 

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THAT QUESTION THAT MR. KELLY 

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JUST MENTIONED WAS SENT TO US 

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EARLIER IN AN EMAIL.

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WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND TO 

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THAT?

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BECAUSE I THINK YOU GAVE US AN 

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EXPLANATION AS TO WHERE THAT 

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JUMP CAME FROM.

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>> Mr. Persselin:

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 HI MAYOR, COUNCIL, DAVE 

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PERSSELIN, FINANCE DIRECTOR.

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AS PART OF THE MID YEAR REPORT 

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IN 2023, THE CITY COUNCIL 

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APPROVED A $15 MILLION TRANSFER 

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FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE 

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EMPLOYEE BENEFITS FUND TO 

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ESTABLISH A LEAVE LIQUIDATION 

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RESERVE.

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THE BUDGET REPORT THAT MR. ABREU 

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WAS REFERRING TO REFLECTED THAT 

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$15 MILLION AS A TRANSFER OUT.

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WHEN WE PREPARED THE FINANCIAL 

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STATEMENTS AFTER WE CLOSED THE 

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YEAR IN OCTOBER, WE RECLASSIFIED 

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THAT TRANSFER AS EXPENDITURES, 

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WHICH IS APPROPRIATE FOR 

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FINANCIAL REPORTING PURPOSES.

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SO INDEED THE EXPENDITURES WERE 

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$15 MILLION HIGHER, BUT THE 

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TRANSFERS OUT WERE $15 MILLION 

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LOWER.

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SO THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO THE 

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REPORTED EXPENDITURES AND 

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TRANSFERS OUT OVERALL.

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>> Councilmember Campbell: THANK 

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YOU FOR THAT.

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THIS ITEM IS ON THE AUDIT, AND I 

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JUST HAVE A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS 

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THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO -- AND 

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AGAIN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE 

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ANSWERS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT 

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LATER.

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ON ONE OF THE REPORTS, THE 

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INDEPENDENT AUDIT REPORT, IT 

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SAYS SINGLE AUDIT REPORT, IT 

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MENTIONS THAT -- ABOUT MATERIAL 

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WEAKNESSES, AND IT MENTIONS THAT 

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THIS PARTICULAR AUDIT DOESN'T 

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NECESSARILY LOOK AT MATERIAL 

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WEAKNESSES.

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THEY SAID HOWEVER, MATERIAL OR 

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SIGNIFICANT DEFICITS MAY EXIST 

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BUT WERE NOT IDENTIFIED.

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DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT 

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THOSE WEAKNESSES MIGHT HAVE BEEN 

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IN THIS PARTICULAR AUDIT THAT 

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DEAL SPECIFICALLY WITH INTERNAL 

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CONTROLS?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO THE AUDIT 

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REPORT SAYS THAT THEY DID NOT 

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FIND ANY MATERIAL WEAKNESSES.

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EVERY AUDIT REPORT BY THE 

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AUDITOR WILL ALWAYS SAY THAT 

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EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T IDENTIFY 

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ANY, THAT IS NOT A GUARANTEE 

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THAT NOTHING WAS THERE.

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THEY DIDN'T FIND ANY, WE'RE NOT 

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AWARE OF ANY.

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>> Councilmember Campbell: OKAY, 

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THANK YOU.

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AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT 

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I HAD WAS

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 THIS ONE FINDING THAT THEY DID 

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HAVE THAT SAYS THAT THERE WAS AN 

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INTERNAL CONTROL ON

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 ITEM 2023-001 TO BE A 

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SIGNIFICANT DEFICIT -- 

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DEFICIENCY.

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CAN WE EXPLAIN WHAT THAT

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 2023-001 IS?

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WAS THAT THE

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 MONEY WE GOT FOR COVID?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO WHAT 

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THEY'RE REFERRING TO IS A 

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REQUIREMENT UNDER FEDERAL GRANT

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 REQUIREMENTS THAT WHEN WE 

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CONTRACT WITH AN OUTSIDE 

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CONTRACTOR TO PERFORM WORK 

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THAT'S BEING PAID FOR WITH A 

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FEDERAL GRANT, THAT WE'RE 

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REQUIRED TO HAVE A CERTIFIED

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 PAYROLL FROM THE CONTRACTOR TO 

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DEMONSTRATE THAT THE CONTRACTOR 

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IS, IN FACT, PAYING ITS 

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EMPLOYEES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 

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LAW.

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IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE

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 CONTRACTOR WENT BANKRUPT, AND 

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WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GET 

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CERTIFIED PAYROLLS FROM THE TIME 

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PERIOD WHEN THEY PERFORMED THE 

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WORK.

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NONETHELESS, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD 

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THOSE PAYROLL REPORTS, AND SO 

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THAT WAS THE DEFICIENCY THAT 

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THEY'RE REFERRING TO.

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>> Councilmember Campbell: AND 

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IS THERE A -- CAN WE MAKE IT 

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RIGHT OR DOES IT JUST BECOME A 

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DEFICIENCY AND WE JUST DON'T 

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HAVE TO MAKE IT RIGHT?

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WELL, NOW THAT THEY'RE GONE OUT 

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OF BUSINESS, IT'S PROBABLY NOT 

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MUCH WE CAN DO.

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>> Mr. Persselin: THERE'S NOT 

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MUCH WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT.

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IT IS -- IT DOESN'T RISE TO THE 

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LEVEL WHERE IT IS CONSIDERED A 

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MATERIAL WEAKNESS OR A 

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DEFICIENCY THAT WAS CAUSE US TO 

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BE WHAT'S CALLED A HIGH RISK 

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AUDITEE NEXT YEAR, SO IT HAS NO 

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IMPACT ON THE CITY.

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>> Councilmember Campbell: 

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OKAY.

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THANK YOU.

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AND THEN I THINK I HAD ONE OTHER 

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QUESTION.

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I THINK THE MATERIAL WEAKNESSES 

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WERE THE ONES THAT KIND OF -- 

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INTERNAL AUDITS THAT ROSE TO A 

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LEVEL OF CONCERN FOR ME, BUT I 

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THINK OVERALL, I'M GLAD THAT WE 

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CONTINUE TO HAVE GREAT AUDIT 

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REPORTS AND GREAT FINDINGS AND 

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THAT WE ARE REALLY MANAGING OUR 

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FINANCIAL STATEMENTS IN THE WAY 

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THAT DOESN'T GIVE US ANY 

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SIGNIFICANT FINDINGS.

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AND SO THOSE WERE THE ONLY TWO 

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QUESTIONS THAT I HAD AT THIS 

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TIME.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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>> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU.

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NEXT, I THINK THERE ARE COMMENTS 

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OR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM 

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COUNCILMEMBER COX ON THIS ITEM?

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OR IS THIS JUST -- YOU JUST 

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PUSHED THE BUTTON?

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>> Councilmember Cox: NO, I 

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DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS, BUT I 

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CAN MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE 

[Captioner] 19:24:52
FORWARD WITH THE FISCAL YEAR 

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2023 FINANCIAL AUDIT UNDER 2E.

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>> Mayor Mei: OKAY.

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WE HAVE A MOTION.

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DO WE HAVE A SECOND BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, DID YOU 

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HAVE -- OKAY, THAT WAS FROM 

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BEFORE.

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GREAT.

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SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A 

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SECOND.

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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ROLL CALL 

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VOTE, PLEASE.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: COUNCILMEMBER 

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COX, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KASSAN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG, AYE.

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VICE MAYOR SHAO, AYE.

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MAYOR MEI, AYE.

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>> Mayor Mei: THE MOTION PASSES 

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UNANIMOUSLY FOR ITEM 2E.

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THANK YOU.

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DON'T GO TOO FAR.

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I THINK THE NEXT ITEM MAY ALSO 

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BE YOURS.

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WHICH IS -- THE NEXT ITEM IS 

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ITEM 6A, WHICH IS THE FISCAL 

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YEAR 2024/25 PROPOSED OPERATING 

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BUDGET.

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AND THERE'S A PRESENTATION OF 

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FISCAL YEAR 2024-2025 PROPOSED 

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OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF 

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FREMONT.

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AND WELCOME BACK.

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LONG TIME NO SEE, FINANCE 

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DIRECTOR PERSSELIN.

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>> Mr. Persselin: THANK YOU, 

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MAYOR.

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CAN WE BRING UP THE FIRST 

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SLIDE?

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THERE WE GO.

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TONIGHT WE'RE PRESENTING THE 

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PROPOSED OPERATING BUDGET FOR 

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FISCAL YEAR 2024-25.

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THE CITY'S BUDGET IS OUR 

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FINANCIAL PLAN FOR DELIVERING 

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SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY OVER 

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THE NEXT YEAR.

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CITY SERVICES SUPPORTED BY 

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GENERAL REVENUES SUCH AS 

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PROPERTY AND SALES TAXES ARE 

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BUDGETED IN THE GENERAL FUND.

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EXPENDITURES FOR THESE SERVICES 

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WHICH INCLUDE POLICE AND FIRE 

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TOTAL $276.3 MILLION FOR NEXT 

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YEAR.

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SERVICES SUPPORTED BY USER FEES 

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SUCH AS PLAN CHECKING, BUILDING 

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INSPECTION AND RECREATION 

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CLASSES, ARE BUDGETED IN THE 

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DEVELOPMENT AND RECREATION COST 

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CENTERS.

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OTHER SERVICES PAID FROM 

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RESTRICTED SOURCES SUCH AS 

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GRANTS AND FEES ARE BUDGETED IN 

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SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.

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TWO OF THE LARGEST SPECIAL 

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REVENUE FUNDS ARE HUMAN SERVICES 

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AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK 

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GRANT.

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FINALLY, CAPITAL PROJECTS, MANY 

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OF WHICH ARE PAID FROM 

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RESTRICTED SOURCES SUCH AS STATE 

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GAS TAX AND COUNTIES MEASURE B 

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AND BB SALES TAX REVENUE ARE 

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BUDGETED IN CAPITAL FUNDS.

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EXPENDITURES BUDGETED OUTSIDE 

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THE GENERAL FUND TOTAL $163.9 

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MILLION.

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THIS PRESENTATION INCLUDES AN 

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UPDATE ON THE CITY'S ECONOMIC 

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AND FISCAL CONDITION, AN 

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OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET, 

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AND SOME PROJECTIONS FOR THE 

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FUTURE.

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THE NATIONAL ECONOMY CONTINUES 

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TO EXPAND AND CREATE NEW JOBS.

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GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT OR GDP 

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INCREASED BY 2.5% DURING 

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CALENDAR YEAR 2023, WITH THE 

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LAST TWO QUARTERS AVERAGING 

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CLOSE TO 4%.

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OVER THE LAST YEAR, THE 

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UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAS INCREASED 

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ONLY SLIGHTLY FROM ITS 

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HISTORICAL LOW OF 3.4% TO 3.9% 

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IN APRIL.

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DESPITE THIS STRENGTH, WE KNOW 

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THAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE'S 

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ATTEMPTS TO COMBAT INFLATION BY 

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MAINTAINING HIGH INTEREST RATES 

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HAVE ADVERSELY IMPACTED HOME 

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PURCHASES AND BUSINESS 

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INVESTMENT, AND THE ADVANCE 

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ESTIMATE OF GDP FOR THE FIRST 

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QUARTER OF 2024 SHOWS SLOWER 

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GROWTH.

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THE IMPACT OF HIGH INTEREST 

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RATES ON OUR LOCAL ECONOMY IS 

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ILLUSTRATED BY A 23% DECLINE IN 

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REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS DURING 

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CALENDAR YEAR 2023.

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FORTUNATELY, THE DESIRABILITY OF 

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OUR CITY AS A PLACE TO LIVE AND 

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WORK HAS HELPED MAINTAIN HOUSING 

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VALUES AT LEVELS CLOSE TO THEIR 

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RECENT HIGHS.

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BECAUSE PROPERTY TAX REVENUES 

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FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR ARE LARGELY 

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DETERMINED BY CHANGES IN 

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OWNERSHIP DURING CALENDAR YEAR 

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2023, THE GENERAL FUND FORECAST 

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ANTICIPATES SLOWER GROWTH IN 

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THAT REVENUE CATEGORY.

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ALTHOUGH THE FEDERAL RESERVE 

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OPEN MARKET COMMITTEE 

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ACKNOWLEDGES THAT INFLATION HAS 

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EASED OVER THE PAST YEAR, THEY 

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ARE NOT YET READY TO BEGIN 

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LOWERING THEIR INTEREST RATE 

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TARGET.

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WHEN THEY DO, POSSIBLY LATER IN 

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2024, WE'LL LIKELY SEE A PICKUP 

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IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.

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WHILE THE CITY'S REVENUE 

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FORECAST ASSUMES CONTINUED 

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INCREASES OVER THE NEXT FEW 

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YEARS, THE CONTINUATION OF ARMED 

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CONFLICTS INTERNATIONALLY AND 

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POLITICAL POLARIZATION 

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DOMESTICALLY CREATE SIGNIFICANT 

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ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTIES.

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BECAUSE OUR BUDGET IS BASED ON 

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THE CORE PRINCIPLE OF FISCAL 

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SUSTAINABILITY, THE LEVEL OF 

[Captioner] 19:30:07
SERVICES WE CAN PROVIDE THE 

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COMMUNITY IS CONSTRAINED BY OUR 

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ONGOING RESOURCES.

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TO AVOID THE SERVICE DISRUPTIONS 

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THAT WOULD RESULT FROM TEMPORARY 

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REVENUE SHORT FALLS OR 

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EXPENDITURE SPIKES, THE CITY HAS 

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ESTABLISHED A GENERAL FUND 

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BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE, 

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WHICH ACTS AS A KIND OF FISCAL 

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SHOCK ABSORBER.

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THIS PROPOSED BUDGET ADDRESSES A 

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NEAR TERM REVENUE SHORTFALL 

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BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE OVERPAYMENT 

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OF SALES TAX REVENUE BY THE 

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STATE TO THE CITY DURING FISCAL 

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YEAR 22-23.

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THE $111.6 MILLION YOU SEE IN 

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THE SALES TAX ROW ON THE SLIDE 

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INCLUDES THAT OVERPAYMENT.

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IN THE SAME ROW, OVER THE NEXT 

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TWO YEARS, THE LARGE DROP YOU 

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SEE REFLECTS THE STATE'S 

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REALLOCATION OF APPROXIMATELY 

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$19.5 MILLION.

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THOSE REALLOCATIONS DURING THE 

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LAST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR AND 

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THE FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR 

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WILL REDUCE OUR SALES TAX 

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REVENUE BY ABOUT $12 MILLION IN 

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EACH YEAR.

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COMBINED WITH REDUCED ONGOING 

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SALES TAX REVENUE ESTIMATES, 

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THOSE REALLOCATIONS WILL REQUIRE 

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THE USE OF ONE-TIME FUNDS TO 

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MAINTAIN THE CURRENT LEVEL OF 

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SERVICES.

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ONCE THE STATE HAS RECOVERED ITS 

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OVERPAYMENT, OUR SALES TAX 

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REVENUE WILL RETURN TO ITS 

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NORMAL ONGOING LEVEL IN 2025-26, 

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PROJECTED AT $72.9 MILLION.

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FORTUNATELY, THE CITY COUNCIL'S 

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PRUDENT DECISIONS TO SET ASIDE 

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THE GENERAL FUND UNRESERVED 

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ENDING FUND BALANCE FROM FISCAL 

[Captioner] 19:31:49
YEAR 22-23 TO INCREASE THE 

[Captioner] 19:31:50
GENERAL FUND BUDGET UNCERTAINTY 

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RESERVE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS 

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FISCAL YEAR, AND TO FURTHER 

[Captioner] 19:31:56
AUGMENT THE BUDGET UNCERTAINTY 

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RESERVE AT MID YEAR, PROVIDE US 

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WITH THE RESOURCES WE NEED TO 

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OFFSET THE REVENUE SHORTFALL.

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OUR GENERAL FUND FORECAST 

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INDICATE THAT OUR ONGOING 

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REVENUES WILL AGAIN BE 

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SUFFICIENT TO COVER OUR ONGOING 

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EXPENDITURES WITHOUT THE FUTURE 

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USE OF RESERVES BEGINNING IN 

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FISCAL YEAR 2025-26.

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PROPERTY TAX, ABOUT HALF OF OUR 

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GENERAL FUND REVENUE, IS BASED 

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ON VALUES ESTABLISHED ON THE 

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JANUARY 1ST LEAN DATE.

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THAT MEANS THAT REVENUES FOR 

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NEXT FISCAL YEAR WERE DETERMINED 

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BY THE REAL ESTATE MARKET DURING 

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CALENDAR YEAR 2023.

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UNDER PROPOSITION 13, ASSESSED 

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VALUES OF ALL REAL PROPERTY 

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ADJUST WITH THE CALIFORNIA 

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CONSUMER PRICE INDEX WITH A 2% 

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LIMIT.

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UNLESS THERE'S A CHANGE IN 

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OWNERSHIP OR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

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THE CPI ADJUSTMENT FOR NEXT 

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YEAR'S TAX ROLL IS AN INCREASE 

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OF 2%.

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AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, HIGH 

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INTEREST RATES SIGNIFICANTLY 

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REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PROPERTY 

[Captioner] 19:33:03
SALES LAST YEAR.

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SO BASED ON PROPERTY TRANSFER 

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TAX DATA AND PRELIMINARY 

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INFORMATION FROM THE COUNTY 

[Captioner] 19:33:11
ASSESSOR, THE ESTIMATED 

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ADDITIONAL INCREASE IN VALUE 

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FROM CHANGES IN OWNERSHIP IS

[Captioner] 19:33:17
 ONLY 2.6%.

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A FURTHER ESTIMATED INCREASE OF 

[Captioner] 19:33:22
0.5% FOR THE VALUE OF NEW 

[Captioner] 19:33:24
CONSTRUCTION REFLECTS THE 

[Captioner] 19:33:25
CONTINUING DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY 

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IN WARM SPRINGS AND OTHER AREAS 

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OF THE CITY.

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SALES TAX REVENUES MAKE UP 

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ALMOST A QUARTER OF GENERAL FUND 

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REVENUE, AND ARE ESTIMATED TO 

[Captioner] 19:33:39
TOTAL $55.4 MILLION IN FISCAL 

[Captioner] 19:33:44
YEAR 23-24, INCREASING TO

[Captioner] 19:33:46
 $57.5 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 

[Captioner] 19:33:46
24-25.

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THESE ESTIMATES INCLUDE THE 

[Captioner] 19:33:52
STATE'S RECOVERY OF 

[Captioner] 19:33:53
APPROXIMATELY $19.5 MILLION OF 

[Captioner] 19:33:55
SALES TAX REVENUE IT 

[Captioner] 19:33:57
OVERALLOCATED TO THE CITY, AS 

[Captioner] 19:33:59
WELL AS THE ASSOCIATED REDUCTION 

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OF A PROJECTED $4.3 MILLION IN

[Captioner] 19:34:04
 COUNTY-WIDE POOL REVENUE.

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AS I MENTIONED, THE INCREASE YOU 

[Captioner] 19:34:10
SEE IN FISCAL YEAR 2025-26 

[Captioner] 19:34:12
REFLECTS THE RETURN OF SALES TAX 

[Captioner] 19:34:13
REVENUE TO ITS ONGOING LEVEL.

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BUSINESS TAXES ARE PROJECTED TO 

[Captioner] 19:34:21
YIELD $14.1 MILLION IN FISCAL 

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YEAR 23-24, AND INCLUDE 

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APPROXIMATELY $600,000 OF 

[Captioner] 19:34:28
ONE-TIME PRIOR-YEAR 

[Captioner] 19:34:28
COLLECTIONS.

[Captioner] 19:34:32
AS WE'RE SEEING A SLOWDOWN IN 

[Captioner] 19:34:33
RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION 

[Captioner] 19:34:35
BUSINESS TAX REVENUE, THE 

[Captioner] 19:34:38
FORECAST ONLY ASSUMES GROWTH IN 

[Captioner] 19:34:39
THE NON-DEVELOPMENT-RELATED 

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BUSINESS TAX COMPONENT, WITH 

[Captioner] 19:34:43
PROJECTED REVENUE OF $14 MILLION 

[Captioner] 19:34:44
IN FISCAL YEAR 24-25.

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FRANCHISE FEES ARE EXPECTED TO 

[Captioner] 19:34:50
GROW MODESTLY OVER THE NEXT 

[Captioner] 19:34:53
SEVERAL YEARS, WITH STRONGER 

[Captioner] 19:34:54
PERFORMANCE FROM THE CITY'S 

[Captioner] 19:34:56
SOLID WASTE AND UTILITY FEES 

[Captioner] 19:34:57
OFFSET BY THE CONTINUING DECLINE 

[Captioner] 19:34:59
IN THE CABLE TELEVISION 

[Captioner] 19:34:59
FRANCHISE.

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HOTEL TAX REVENUE IS ESTIMATED 

[Captioner] 19:35:08
AT $6.1 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 

[Captioner] 19:35:11
23-24, AN INCREASE OF ONLY 1.7% 

[Captioner] 19:35:11
FROM THE PRIOR YEAR.

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AFTER STRONG POST PANDEMIC 

[Captioner] 19:35:17
GROWTH IN THE TWO PRIOR YEARS, 

[Captioner] 19:35:19
OCCUPANCY RATES AND ROOM RATES 

[Captioner] 19:35:21
APPEAR TO HAVE PLATEAUED IN MID 

[Captioner] 19:35:21
2023.

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HOWEVER, ACTIVITY HAS BEEN 

[Captioner] 19:35:26
ACCELERATING THROUGH MARCH, AND 

[Captioner] 19:35:29
FISCAL YEAR 2024-25 HOTEL TAX 

[Captioner] 19:35:32
REVENUE IS PROJECTED TO REACH 

[Captioner] 19:35:32
$6.5 MILLION.

[Captioner] 19:35:35
CHARGES FOR SERVICES ARE 

[Captioner] 19:35:37
EXPECTED TO REMAIN STABLE OVER 

[Captioner] 19:35:38
THE FORECAST HORIZON.

[Captioner] 19:35:42
THE OTHER CATEGORY FOR FISCAL 

[Captioner] 19:35:45
YEAR 23-24 INCLUDES FEDERAL 

[Captioner] 19:35:47
REIMBURSEMENTS OF $1.5 MILLION 

[Captioner] 19:35:49
TO COMPENSATE THE CITY FOR 

[Captioner] 19:35:51
EMERGENCY EXPENDITURES DURING 

[Captioner] 19:35:53
THE COVID PANDEMIC AND COSTS OF 

[Captioner] 19:35:58
REPAIRING THE 2023 WINTER STORM DAMAGE.

[Captioner] 19:36:01
ALTHOUGH WE ANTICIPATE RECEIVING 

[Captioner] 19:36:02
ADDITIONAL REIMBURSEMENTS IN THE 

[Captioner] 19:36:03
FUTURE, THE AMOUNTS AND TIMING 

[Captioner] 19:36:05
ARE UNCERTAIN, SO THEY ARE NOT 

[Captioner] 19:36:05
INCLUDED IN THE FORECAST.

[Captioner] 19:36:10
FINALLY, I'LL HIGHLIGHT THAT THE 

[Captioner] 19:36:12
TRANSFERS-IN CATEGORY FOR FISCAL 

[Captioner] 19:36:15
YEAR 2023-24 INCLUDES THE CITY 

[Captioner] 19:36:17
COUNCIL'S MID YEAR ACTION TO 

[Captioner] 19:36:18
SUPPLEMENT THE BUDGET 

[Captioner] 19:36:21
UNCERTAINTY RESERVE WITH $10 

[Captioner] 19:36:22
MILLION FROM THE ACCRUED LEAVE 

[Captioner] 19:36:23
LIQUIDATION RESERVE THAT WAS 

[Captioner] 19:36:24
ESTABLISHED LAST YEAR.

[Captioner] 19:36:29
EXCLUDING THAT $10 MILLION 

[Captioner] 19:36:31
TRANSFER, AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL 

[Captioner] 19:36:32
EMERGENCY REIMBURSEMENTS AND 

[Captioner] 19:36:36
ONE-TIME BUSINESS TAX, OUR 

[Captioner] 19:36:37
ONGOING REVENUES ARE PROJECTED 

[Captioner] 19:36:39
TO INCREASE BY ABOUT 3.5% NEXT 

[Captioner] 19:36:39
YEAR.

[Captioner] 19:36:46
GENERAL FUND BUDGET DEVELOPMENT 

[Captioner] 19:36:48
BEGINS IN JANUARY, WITH 

[Captioner] 19:36:50
PREPARATION OF A BASE BUDGET 

[Captioner] 19:36:53
THAT ASSUMES THE CURRENT-YEAR 

[Captioner] 19:36:54
STAFFING CONFIGURATION, REMOVES 

[Captioner] 19:36:57
ANY ONE-TIME EXPENDITURES, THEN 

[Captioner] 19:36:59
ADDS IN ADJUSTMENTS FOR LABOR 

[Captioner] 19:37:01
AGREEMENTS, CONTRACTUAL 

[Captioner] 19:37:02
OBLIGATIONS, AND DEBT SERVICE 

[Captioner] 19:37:02
REQUIREMENTS.

[Captioner] 19:37:05
SINCE MOST OF THE CITY'S GENERAL 

[Captioner] 19:37:07
FUND SERVICES ARE DELIVERED BY 

[Captioner] 19:37:10
CITY STAFF, THE MAJORITY OF OUR 

[Captioner] 19:37:12
BASE BUDGET INCREASES RELATE TO 

[Captioner] 19:37:13
COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS.

[Captioner] 19:37:16
THE BASE BUDGET ALSO 

[Captioner] 19:37:19
INCORPORATES PENSION AND RETIREE 

[Captioner] 19:37:19
HEALTHCARE CONTRIBUTIONS 

[Captioner] 19:37:22
PROJECTED BY OUR CALPERS AND 

[Captioner] 19:37:24
CONSULTING ACTUARIES, AND 

[Captioner] 19:37:25
INCLUDES ADDITIONAL UNFUNDED 

[Captioner] 19:37:27
PENSION LIABILITY CONTRIBUTIONS 

[Captioner] 19:37:29
PER COUNCIL POLICY.

[Captioner] 19:37:33
FINALLY, WE ESTIMATE A LEVEL OF 

[Captioner] 19:37:34
CITY-WIDE SAVINGS FOR THE YEAR 

[Captioner] 19:37:36
BASED LARGELY ON CURRENT AND 

[Captioner] 19:37:36
PROJECTED VACANCIES.

[Captioner] 19:37:40
THE ONGOING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 

[Captioner] 19:37:42
OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND THE 

[Captioner] 19:37:45
BASE BUDGET DEFINES OUR FISCAL 

[Captioner] 19:37:47
CAPACITY FOR ENHANCING OR 

[Captioner] 19:37:49
EXPANDING SERVICES.

[Captioner] 19:37:50
AS THE CITY WILL BE EXPERIENCING 

[Captioner] 19:37:53
A REVENUE SHORT FALL IN FISCAL 

[Captioner] 19:37:57
YEAR 24-25, THE PROPOSED BUDGET 

[Captioner] 19:37:58
INCLUDED VERY FEW GENERAL FUND 

[Captioner] 19:37:59
SERVICE ENHANCEMENTS.

[Captioner] 19:38:02
ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF FISCAL 

[Captioner] 19:38:04
YEAR 24-25 WILL BE THE 

[Captioner] 19:38:05
ACTIVATION OF THE CITY'S NEW 

[Captioner] 19:38:08
FIRE TRUCK COMPANY IN EARLY 

[Captioner] 19:38:08
2025.

[Captioner] 19:38:11
ADDITIONAL SERVICE PROPOSALS 

[Captioner] 19:38:13
INCLUDE INCREASED SPENDING FOR 

[Captioner] 19:38:16
BUSINESS DISTRICT ACTIVATION 

[Captioner] 19:38:16
THROUGHOUT THE CITY, HIGHER 

[Captioner] 19:38:19
FUNDING FOR THE SPECIAL EVENT 

[Captioner] 19:38:20
SPONSORSHIP PROGRAM TO 

[Captioner] 19:38:22
ACCOMMODATE EXPANDED EVENTS AND 

[Captioner] 19:38:25
HIGHER FEES, AND A NEW POLICE 

[Captioner] 19:38:25
LIEUTENANT POSITION.

[Captioner] 19:38:29
OUTSIDE THE GENERAL FUND, 

[Captioner] 19:38:30
INTEGRATED WASTE MANAGEMENT FEES 

[Captioner] 19:38:32
WILL FUND MORE FREQUENT HOMELESS 

[Captioner] 19:38:34
ENCAMPMENT CLEAN-UPS AND 

[Captioner] 19:38:36
CONTRACTS WITH THE COUNTY WILL 

[Captioner] 19:38:38
PAY FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF TO 

[Captioner] 19:38:40
SERVE YOUTH AND FAMILY SERVICES 

[Captioner] 19:38:41
CLIENTS AT THE FREMONT FAMILY 

[Captioner] 19:38:43
RESOURCE CENTER.

[Captioner] 19:38:48
THE PROPOSED OPERATING BUDGET 

[Captioner] 19:38:50
ALSO INCORPORATES A COST NEUTRAL 

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SHIFT IN THE CITY'S 

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ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIVISION 

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FROM THE COMMUNITY SERVICES 

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DEPARTMENT TO THE COMMUNITY 

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DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

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WHICH CURRENTLY HOUSES THE 

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CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL 

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SUSTAINABILITY FUNCTION.

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THE COMBINED RESOURCES WILL 

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BETTER POSITION THE ORGANIZATION 

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TO PURSUE THE CITY COUNCIL'S 

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GOAL OF PRIORITIZING 

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ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY.

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GENERAL FUND BUDGETED RESOURCES 

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IN THE COMING YEAR SUPPLEMENTED 

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BY FUNDING FROM THE BUDGET 

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UNCERTAINTY RESERVE ARE 

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ESTIMATED TO BE ADEQUATE TO 

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SUPPORT TOTAL BUDGETED 

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EXPENDITURES OF $276.3 MILLION.

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IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND 

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THAT OUR LABOR AGREEMENTS END IN

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 JUNE 2025, SO NO COMPENSATION 

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INCREASES HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN 

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THE 25-26 OR 26-27 EXPENDITURE 

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FORECAST.

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EVEN SO, THE $25.3 MILLION OF 

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UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE YOU SEE 

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AT THE END OF THE FORECAST 

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PERIOD EQUATES TO JUST UNDER 3% 

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OF THE PROPOSED AND PROJECTED 

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EXPENDITURES OVER THE THREE-YEAR 

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HORIZON, AND HELPS PROTECT US 

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FROM THE UNUSUALLY HIGH LEVEL OF 

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UNCERTAINTY IN BOTH OUR CURRENT 

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REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE 

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PROJECTIONS.

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AS PART OF THE 23-24 YEAR-END 

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REPORT IN THE FALL, STAFF COULD 

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RECOMMEND ALLOCATING A PORTION 

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OF ANY UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE 

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FOR ONE-TIME PRIORITY PROJECTS 

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OR PROGRAMS, UNFUNDED 

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LIABILITIES OR RESERVE 

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AUGMENTATION.

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THE PROPOSED BUDGET MAINTAINS 

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THE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY 

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RESERVE AT 16.7% OF BUDGETED 

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EXPENDITURES AND TRANSFERS OUT, 

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OR $46.1 MILLION.

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A LEVEL CONSISTENT WITH CITY 

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COUNCIL POLICY AND THE 

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RECOMMENDED PRACTICE OF THE 

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GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS 

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ASSOCIATION.

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AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE 

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STATE IS EXPECTED TO REALLOCATE 

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APPROXIMATELY $19.5 MILLION OVER 

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THE LAST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 

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23-24, AND THE FIRST QUARTER OF 

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FISCAL YEAR 24-25.

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THOSE REALLOCATIONS WILL REQUIRE 

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THE USE OF THE GENERAL FUND 

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BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE TO 

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MAINTAIN THE CURRENT LEVEL OF 

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SERVICES.

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BY THE END OF THE CURRENT FISCAL 

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YEAR, THE STATE'S PARTIAL 

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RECOVERY OF MISALLOCATED SALES 

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TAX REVENUE AND ADJUSTMENTS FOR 

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THE LOWER LEVEL OF ONGOING 

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REVENUE ARE EXPECTED TO CONSUME

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 THE $21.9 MILLION ENDING FUND 

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BALANCE FROM FISCAL 22-23 AND 

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REDUCE THE GENERAL FUND 

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UNCERTAINTY RESERVE FROM $30 

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MILLION TO $24.4 MILLION.

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THE MAJORITY OF OUR GENERAL FUND 

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PROPOSED EXPENDITURES TARGET THE 

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COMMUNITY'S THREE MAIN 

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PRIORITIES.

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INCLUDING OVERHEAD COSTS, 

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POLICE, FIRE, AND MAINTENANCE 

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MAKE UP ABOUT 94% OF THE GENERAL 

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FUND EXPENDITURES.

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THE OTHER CATEGORY SHOWN ON THE 

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SLIDE INCLUDES SUPPORT FOR HUMAN 

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SERVICES ACTIVITIES, DEBT 

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SERVICE PAYMENTS ON THE CITY'S 

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BONDS, AND GENERAL FUND 

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CONTRIBUTIONS TO COMMUNITY 

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DEVELOPMENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING 

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AND HOMELESS SERVICES, SOCIAL 

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SERVICE GRANTS AND CAPITAL 

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PROJECTS.

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ALTHOUGH THE FOCUS OF THE 

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PRESENTATION SO FAR HAS BEEN ON 

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THE GENERAL FUND, I'D LIKE TO 

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HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE MAJOR 

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NON-GENERAL FUND OPERATIONS, 

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INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT AND 

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RECREATION COST CENTERS, AND THE 

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HUMAN SERVICES SPECIAL REVENUE 

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FUND.

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AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, 

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DEVELOPMENT AND RECREATION COST 

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CENTER ACTIVITIES ARE LARGELY 

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SUPPORTED BY USER FEES, AND THE 

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HUMAN SERVICES FUND IS SUPPORTED 

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BY A COMBINATION OF GRANTS AND 

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FEES FOR SERVICE.

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IN THE DEVELOPMENT COST CENTER, 

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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF WILL 

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BE WORKING ON A NUMBER OF 

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PROJECTS IN 24-25, INCLUDING 

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SELECTING ONE OR MORE LOCATIONS 

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FOR PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE ELECTRIC 

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VEHICLE FAST CHARGING AS PART OF 

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THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, WORKING 

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WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO 

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ADDRESS HOMELESS ISSUES, AND 

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IMPLEMENTING THE NEW SHORT TERM 

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RENTAL ORDINANCE.

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PERMIT CENTER STAFF WILL BE 

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CREATING A KIOSK CENTER TO 

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FACILITATE THE PUBLIC'S USE OF 

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ONLINE SERVICES, AND 

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IMPLEMENTING IN-PERSON AND 

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VIRTUAL APPOINTMENT-BASED PLAN 

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REVIEW, INCLUDING THE 

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ESTABLISHMENT OF A VIRTUAL 

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PUBLIC COUNTER FOR GENERAL 

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PERMITTING QUESTIONS.

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PUBLIC WORKS STAFF WILL BE 

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DESIGNING THE NEW CENTRAL PARK 

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COMMUNITY CENTER, REPLACING OR 

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UPGRADING PARK RESTROOMS, 

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FINALIZING THE ACTIVE 

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TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR 

[Captioner] 19:43:31
IMPROVING PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE AND 

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WHEELCHAIR TRAVEL EXPERIENCES, 

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AND EXPANDING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL 

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MODERNIZATION PROGRAM TO 

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COORDINATE SIGNAL TIMING ON 

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FREMONT BOULEVARD, AUTOMALL 

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PARKWAY AND OTHER ARTERIAL CORE 

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TORES.

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 CORRIDORS.

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THE RECREATION COST CENTER 

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RECENTLY INTRODUCED ONLINE 

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RESERVATIONS FOR THE FREMONT 

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TENNIS CENTER AND CENTRAL PARK 

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PIT FACILITIES, AND NEXT YEAR 

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WE'LL BE FEATURING A NEW 

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BIRTHDAY BARB FACILITY RENTAL 

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PROGRAM AND A NEW YEAR-ROUND 

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YOUTH THEATER PROGRAM.

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ONGOING OFFERINGS INCLUDE 

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CLASSES, RENTAL FACILITIES AND 

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RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES AT THE 

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CITY'S PARKS, COMMUNITY CENTERS 

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AND THE AQUA ADVENTURES WATER 

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PARK.

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HUMAN SERVICES STAFF WILL BE 

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SERVING FREMONT RESIDENTS MOST 

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AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS AND 

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EVICTION THROUGH THE KEEP 

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FREMONT HOUSED STABILITY 

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PROGRAM,MED WITH THE REMAINDER 

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OF THE KEEP FREMONT HOUSED GRANT 

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FUNDS.

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STAFF WILL ALSO BE OFFERING 

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MEALS, CLASSES AND SUPPORT 

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SERVICES AT THE CITY'S TWO AGE 

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WELL CENTERS, MANAGE THE RENT 

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REVIEW BOARD, MAINTAIN THE 

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TRI-CITY WORKFORCE TRAINING SITE 

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AND COORDINATE OPERATIONS AT THE 

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HOMELESS CENTER.

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THE FREMONT FAMILY RESOURCE 

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CENTER WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE 

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A WIDE VARIETY OF SERVICES TO 

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YOUTH, FAMILY AND SENIORS, 

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INCLUDING THE SPARK POINT AND 

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VITA PROGRAMS.

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THE FIRST COLUMN ON THE STAFFING 

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TABLE SHOWS OUR CURRENT STAFFING 

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LEVELS, AND REFLECTS CHANGES 

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MADE SINCE THE 23-24 BUDGET WAS 

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ADOPTED.

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THOSE CHANGES INCLUDE THE 

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ADDITION OF A VETERINARIAN AND 

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VETERINARY TECHNICIAN AT THE 

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ANIMAL SHELTER, OFFSET BY THE 

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ELIMINATION OF FOUR DETENTION OFFICERS.

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A MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS 

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DIRECTOR AND THE MOVEMENT OF THE 

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ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIVISION 

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FROM THE COMMUNITY SERVICES 

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DEPARTMENT TO THE COMMUNITY 

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DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

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THE SECOND AND THIRD COLUMNS 

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SHOW NEXT YEAR'S PROPOSED 

[Captioner] 19:45:28
STAFFING LEVELS AND THE STAFFING 

[Captioner] 19:45:30
CHANGES BY DEPARTMENT.

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AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPOSED 

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BUDGET WOULD ADD LESS THAN 3 NEW 

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POSITIONS CITY-WIDE.

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THE ONLY PROPOSED ADDITION IN 

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THE GENERAL FUND IS A POLICE 

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LIEUTENANT, WHO WILL BE FOCUSED 

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ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY, 

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ENHANCED POLICING STANDARDS, 

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EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, AND 

[Captioner] 19:45:51
SUPPORT FOR COMMUNITY FIELD 

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OPERATIONS.

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A NEW HUMAN SERVICES SPECIALIST 

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IN THE HUMAN SERVICES SPECIAL 

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REVENUE FUNDS WILL SUPPORT 

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MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO LOW 

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INCOME CHILDREN AND FAMILIES, 

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AND TWO PART-TIME OFFICE 

[Captioner] 19:46:02
SPECIALIST POSITIONS ARE 

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PROPOSED TO BE MADE FULL TIME TO 

[Captioner] 19:46:07
ADDRESS INCREASED ADMINISTRATIVE 

[Captioner] 19:46:09
AND CUSTOMER SERVICE 

[Captioner] 19:46:10
REQUIREMENTS.

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THESE HUMAN SERVICES POSITIONS 

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ARE FUNDED THROUGH CONTRACTUAL 

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AGREEMENTS WITH ALAMEDA COUNTY.

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AT 4.5 POSITIONS PER 1,000 

[Captioner] 19:46:20
RESIDENTS, FREMONT REMAINS NEAR 

[Captioner] 19:46:22
THE LOW END OF PER CAPITA 

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STAFFING COMPARED WITH OUR 

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NEIGHBORING CITIES.

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TO SUMMARIZE, WE ANTICIPATE THAT 

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THE ECONOMY AND OUR LOCAL 

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REVENUES WILL CONTINUE TO GROW 

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AT A MODERATE PACE.

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TEMPERED AT LEAST IN THE NEAR 

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TERM BY HIGH INTEREST RATES.

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THE PROPOSED BUDGET BALANCES A 

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REVENUE SHORT FALL BROUGHT ABOUT 

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BY THE STATE'S EXPECTED RECOVERY 

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OF SALES TAX IT OVERPAID THE 

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CITY LAST YEAR.

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WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE 

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EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE CITY 

[Captioner] 19:46:54
COUNCIL SET ASIDE UNRESERVED 

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FUND BALANCE AND AUGMENTED THE 

[Captioner] 19:46:57
BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE.

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BY MAKING USE OF THE RESERVES 

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SPECIFICALLY ESTABLISHED TO 

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ADDRESS TEMPORARY REVENUE SHORT 

[Captioner] 19:47:09
FALLS, THIS PROPOSED BUDGET 

[Captioner] 19:47:10
MAINTAINS ESSENTIAL SERVICES 

[Captioner] 19:47:11
FOCUSED OND CITY COUNCIL AND 

[Captioner] 19:47:12
COMMUNITY PRIORITIES.

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ADDITIONALLY, THE SERVICE LEVEL 

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ENHANCEMENTS INCLUDED IN THE 

[Captioner] 19:47:18
PROPOSED BUDGET ARE CONSISTENT 

[Captioner] 19:47:21
WITH THE CITY COUNCIL'S STATED 

[Captioner] 19:47:22
FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLE OF FISCAL 

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SUSTAINABILITY.

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OUR GENERAL FUND FORECAST 

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INDICATES THAT OUR ONGOING 

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REVENUES WILL AGAIN BE 

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SUFFICIENT TO COVER OUR ONGOING 

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EXPENDITURES WITHOUT THE FURTHER 

[Captioner] 19:47:34
USE OF RESERVES BEGINNING IN 

[Captioner] 19:47:36
FISCAL YEAR 2025-26.

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THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 

[Captioner] 19:47:43
PROPOSED OPERATING BUDGET IS 

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SCHEDULED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL 

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MEETING ON JUNE 4TH, AND THE 

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SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AND BUDGET 

[Captioner] 19:47:49
ADOPTION ARE SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 

[Captioner] 19:47:50
11TH.

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THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION, 

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AND I'LL HAND THE MEETING BACK 

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TO THE MAYOR FOR CITY COUNCIL 

[Captioner] 19:47:56
QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.

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>> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU, 

[Captioner] 19:48:02
DIRECTOR PERSSELIN, FOR THE 

[Captioner] 19:48:02
PRESENTATION.

[Captioner] 19:48:04
AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO ASK 

[Captioner] 19:48:05
FOR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM 

[Captioner] 19:48:06
OUR COUNCILMEMBERS AND I'LL 

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BEGIN WITH COUNCILMEMBER 

[Captioner] 19:48:07
SALWAN.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: THANK 

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YOU, MADAME MAYOR, AND THANK 

[Captioner] 19:48:13
YOU, MR. PERSSELIN, FOR THE 

[Captioner] 19:48:13
DETAILED DISCUSSION.

[Captioner] 19:48:15
A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

[Captioner] 19:48:17
SO IF YOU COULD GIVE US KIND OF 

[Captioner] 19:48:20
THE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND ON THE 

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RESERVES, BECAUSE I THINK WE 

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ONLY HAD ONE RESERVES AT SOME 

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POINT AND THEN WE ADDED A SECOND 

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BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE.

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DO YOU HAVE THE HISTORICAL 

[Captioner] 19:48:28
CONTEXT ON THAT?

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>> Mr. Persselin: WELL, I DO 

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GOING BACK A WAYS.

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SO WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED AT THE 

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CITY 10 YEARS AGO, WE ACTUALLY 

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HAD THREE DIFFERENT RESERVES.

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WE HAD A CONTINGENCY RESERVE, WE 

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HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER FORMAL 

[Captioner] 19:48:47
RESERVES, AND THEN ON TOP OF 

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THAT, WE ALSO HAD A FIXED DOLLAR 

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AMOUNT BUDGET UNCERTAINTY 

[Captioner] 19:48:50
RESERVE.

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SO I GUESS THERE WERE ACTUALLY 

[Captioner] 19:48:52
FOUR.

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ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE DECIDED 

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TO CONSOLIDATE ALL OF THOSE 

[Captioner] 19:48:59
OTHER RESERVES, WHICH WERE 

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ADDING UP TO THE 16 -- OR AT THE 

[Captioner] 19:49:05
TIME 15% OF EXPENDITURES AND 

[Captioner] 19:49:08
TRANSFERS OUT AS THE CONTINGENCY 

[Captioner] 19:49:11
RESERVE AND INCREASED THAT LEVEL 

[Captioner] 19:49:12
TO 16.7% SO THAT IT WOULD BE 

[Captioner] 19:49:16
COMPLIANT WITH THE GFOA 

[Captioner] 19:49:16
MINIMUM.

[Captioner] 19:49:17
AT THE SAME TIME, WE STILL HAD 

[Captioner] 19:49:19
THE BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE 

[Captioner] 19:49:21
AND BEGAN INCREASING FUNDING FOR 

[Captioner] 19:49:24
TO REFLECT THE INCREASED LEVEL 

[Captioner] 19:49:26
OF EXPOSURE WE WERE SEEING, 

[Captioner] 19:49:26
PARTICULARLY TO SALES TAX.

[Captioner] 19:49:30
SO AT THAT POINT, WE HAD THE ONE 

[Captioner] 19:49:33
FORMULA RESERVE, WHICH IS THE 

[Captioner] 19:49:34
CONTINGENCY RESERVE, AND THEN WE 

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HAD THE FIXED DOLLAR AMOUNT 

[Captioner] 19:49:37
BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: SO THE 

[Captioner] 19:49:42
BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE I 

[Captioner] 19:49:43
PRESUME IS INTENDED FOR TIMES 

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WHEN THERE'S UNCERTAINTY IN THE 

[Captioner] 19:49:45
BUDGET, IS THAT CORRECT, WHEN 

[Captioner] 19:49:48
YOU HAVE A RECESSIONS OR 

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SOFTENING OF THE ECONOMY OR 

[Captioner] 19:49:51
THOSE SORT OF THINGS, IS THAT 

[Captioner] 19:49:51
RIGHT?

[Captioner] 19:49:51
>> Mr. Persselin: THAT'S RIGHT.

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THE BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE 

[Captioner] 19:49:56
IS ESTABLISHED SO THAT INSTEAD 

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OF HAVING TO BASICALLY CUT STAFF 

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EVERY TIME SOMETHING HAPPENED 

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TEMPORARY, WE'D BE ABLE TO 

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CONTINUE SERVICES AND WORK 

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THROUGH WHATEVER THE DOWNTURN 

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WAS.

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THE FIRST TIME THAT WE USED THE 

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BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE WAS 

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ACTUALLY DURING THE GREAT 

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RECESSION.

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SO IT WAS ABOUT -- I THINK IT 

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WAS FUNDED AT A LEVEL OF ABOUT 

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$13 MILLION BEFORE THE GREAT RECESSION.

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WHEN THE GREAT RECESSION HIT, WE 

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ACTUALLY DREW IT DOWN IN ORDER 

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TO MAINTAIN SERVICES FOR SEVERAL 

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YEARS, AND IT WENT DOWN TO A 

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LEVEL OF ABOUT $3.6 MILLION, 

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WHICH IS WHERE IT STAYED UP 

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UNTIL RELATIVELY RECENTLY, WHEN 

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WE BEGAN TO AUGMENT IT AGAIN.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: AND I 

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THINK THERE WERE TIMES WHEN IT 

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WAS OVERFLOWING AND THEN WE DID 

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THE OPAB FUNDING TRUST FUND AND 

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MADE SURE ALL THE PENSIONS AND 

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SO FORTH WERE ALLOCATED:

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.

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AND ON THE SLIDE ON PAGE 4, I 

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THINK YOU SAID IT VERBALLY BUT 

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JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE 

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PEOPLE AT HOME, YOU SAID THE 

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2023-24 ESTIMATE IS $55.4 

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MILLION.

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YOU SUBTRACTED THE 17 MILLION OR 

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15 MILLION OR WHATEVER IT IS FOR 

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THAT YEAR AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR 

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WHICH IS 2024-25, IS THAT 

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CORRECT?

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>> THAT'S CORRECT.

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AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE 

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IMPACT OF THE STATE'S TAKEAWAYS, 

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BOTH THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, 

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ARE COSTING ABOUT $12 MILLION IN 

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EACH YEAR.

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SO THE $55 MILLION THAT WE'RE 

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SHOWING FOR THIS YEAR AND THE 

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$57 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR, IF 

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YOU ADDED BACK THAT $12 MILLION, 

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THAT WOULD GIVE YOU SOME 

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INDICATION OF WHAT OUR ACTUAL

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 ONGOING SALES TAX REVENUE WOULD 

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BE IF THE STATE WASN'T CLAWING 

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BACK THE MONEY THEY HAD 

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OVERPAID.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: SO I 

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GET 67 AND 69 MILLION.

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I ALSO LIKED HOW YOU DISCUSSED 

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THE OTHER FUNDS.

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SO GENERAL FUND IS ONE PORTION 

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OF THE FUNDS AND PROBABLY THE 

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MOST SENSITIVE AND THE ONE WE'RE 

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MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.

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BUT WE DO HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT 

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FUND, WHICH I THINK WE STILL 

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HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS

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 ONGOING, RECREATION FUND, THE 

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HUMAN SERVICES FUND AND WE 

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HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT THE 

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CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND WHICH 

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WILL HAPPEN LATER.

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>> Mr. Persselin: SURE, IN THE 

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OPERATING BUDGET DOCUMENT, WHICH 

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IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WE JUST 

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PUBLISHED, WE INCLUDE A SUMMARY 

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OF THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL 

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IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM WHICH 

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INCLUDES THE TWO-YEAR CAPITAL 

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BUDGET.

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WE ADOPT A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT 

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PROGRAM EVERY TWO YEARS, AND 

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THAT REALLY IS THE PLACE WHERE 

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WE ADDRESS OUR CAPITAL NEEDS.

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SO THE NEXT TIME THAT WE'LL BE 

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LOOKING AT THAT, WE'RE GOING TO 

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START WORKING ON IT IN THE FALL, 

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AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL NEXT 

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YEAR WILL BE CONSIDERING A NEW 

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UPDATE TO THE CAPITAL 

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IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND A NEW 

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TWO-YEAR CAPITAL BUDGET.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: THANK 

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YOU.

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SO THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO 

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CIRCULATED AN EMAIL ABOUT OUR 

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CITY'S SERIOUS BUDGET CRISIS, SO 

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I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS 

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REGARDING THAT.

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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS 

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MENTIONED WAS THAT THERE WAS A 

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WHOPPING $46 MILLION DEFICIT.

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IS THAT CORRECT?

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>> Mr. Persselin: NO.

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AS I'VE NOTED, WE DO HAVE A 

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REVENUE SHORTFALL THIS YEAR AND 

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NEXT YEAR AS A RESULT OF THE 

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STATE TAKING BACK SALES TAX 

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REVENUE THAT IT OVERPAID IN 

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22-23.

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BUT WE DON'T HAVE A -- WE 

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CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF 

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A STRUCTURAL DEFICIT.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: AND 

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THERE WAS SOME MISALLOCATION 

[Captioner] 19:53:36
REFERENCE.

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WAS THE MISALLOCATION BY THE 

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CITY OF FREMONT OR WAS IT THE 

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STATE OR WHO WAS -- WHO WAS THE 

[Captioner] 19:53:42
PARTY RESPONSIBLE?

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>> Mr. Persselin: AS WE 

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UNDERSTAND IT, BUSINESSES 

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MISREPORTED THEIR SALES TAX TO 

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FREMONT.

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THE STATE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH 

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THOSE BUSINESSES OVER THE LAST 

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YEAR TO CORRECTLY ALLOCATE WHERE 

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THOSE SALES TAXES SHOULD GO.

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SO ABSOLUTELY NOT AN ERROR ON 

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THE PART OF THE CITY, AND NOT

[Captioner] 19:54:11
 AN ERROR ON THE PART OF THE 

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STATE.

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IT'S JUST AN ISSUE THAT, YOU 

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KNOW, HAPPENS WHEN BUSINESSES 

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INCORRECTLY REPORT.

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AND I DO WANT TO NOTE AND I'VE 

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MENTIONED BEFORE THAT THIS 

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HAPPENS RELATIVELY FREQUENTLY.

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SO PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE A 

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COMPLICATED BUSINESS, IF YOU 

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HAVE BOTH BRICK AND MORTAR 

[Captioner] 19:54:31
LOCATIONS AND ONLINE SERVICES, 

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IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY 

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WHERE TO PROPERLY REPORT YOUR 

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SALES TAX.

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AND SO ON AN ONGOING BASIS, 

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WE'RE SEEING THE STATE BASICALLY 

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CATCH PEOPLE AND THEN 

[Captioner] 19:54:44
REALLOCATE.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: AND IS 

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THERE -- THERE WAS ALSO MENTION 

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ABOUT HOTEL AND BUSINESS TAXES 

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BEING -- DROPPING, IS THAT 

[Captioner] 19:54:53
CORRECT?

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BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THAT ON THE 

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DOCUMENTS THAT YOU SHOWED 

[Captioner] 19:54:56
TODAY.

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO AS I 

[Captioner] 19:54:59
MENTIONED, WE'VE HAD COMING OUT 

[Captioner] 19:55:02
OF THE RECESSION -- SO HOTEL TAX 

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WAS THE SOURCE OF REVENUE MOST 

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HEAVILY IMPACTED BY COVID, AND 

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WE HAD DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASES IN 

[Captioner] 19:55:12
HOTEL TAX REVENUE OVER THE PAST 

[Captioner] 19:55:15
TWO YEARS, AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING 

[Captioner] 19:55:19
IN THIS YEAR CERTAINLY THROUGH 

[Captioner] 19:55:23
MIDDLE OF CALENDAR YEAR 2023 WAS 

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THAT THE OCCUPANCY RATES AND THE 

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ROOM CHARGES HAD BASICALLY 

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PLATEAUED, SO REVENUE REALLY 

[Captioner] 19:55:32
FLATTENED OUT.

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SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PROJECTING 

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LESS THAN A 2% INCREASE FOR THE 

[Captioner] 19:55:38
CURRENT YEAR.

[Captioner] 19:55:41
BUT WHEN WE LOOK MONTH OVER 

[Captioner] 19:55:43
MONTH AS WE DO, WHAT WE'RE 

[Captioner] 19:55:44
SEEING IS, IS THAT THINGS ARE 

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NOW RAMPING UP OVER THE LAST 

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PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

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SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE STARTING 

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TO SEE MORE OF A RECOVERY GOING 

[Captioner] 19:55:55
ON IN HOTEL TAX.

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BUSINESS TAX, WHAT I WAS REALLY 

[Captioner] 19:56:01
REFERRING TO, WAS THAT OUR 

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REVENUE STAFF AS YOU ARE 

[Captioner] 19:56:04
PROBABLY AWARE SPENT A LOT OF 

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TIME AUDITING TO MAKE SURE THAT 

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WE'RE GETTING THE CORRECT 

[Captioner] 19:56:11
BUSINESS TAX FROM OUR LOCAL 

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BUSINESSES.

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AND DURING THIS CURRENT YEAR, 

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THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SOME 

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LOCAL BUSINESSES AND HAVE 

[Captioner] 19:56:22
IDENTIFIED AND COLLECTED ABOUT 

[Captioner] 19:56:25
$600,000 OF PRIOR-YEAR BUSINESS 

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TAX THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 

[Captioner] 19:56:27
REPORTED AND PAID.

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SO WE'RE GETTING ONE-TIME 

[Captioner] 19:56:29
REVENUE IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

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SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE $14.1 

[Captioner] 19:56:34
MILLION THAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO 

[Captioner] 19:56:37
RECEIVE THIS YEAR AND COMPARE 

[Captioner] 19:56:39
THAT WITH THE $14 MILLION THAT 

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WE'RE PROJECTING FOR NEXT YEAR 

[Captioner] 19:56:41
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S NOT MUCH 

[Captioner] 19:56:43
GOING ON THERE, BUT IF YOU TAKE 

[Captioner] 19:56:46
OUT THAT $600,000, THAT'S 

[Captioner] 19:56:47
ACTUALLY A PRETTY DECENT 

[Captioner] 19:56:47
INCREASE.

[Captioner] 19:56:50
>> Councilmember Salwan: BUT IT 

[Captioner] 19:56:52
DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S DROPPING 

[Captioner] 19:56:54
BUT GOING UP, LIKE A NOMINAL 2% 

[Captioner] 19:56:54
INCREASE.

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>> Mr. Persselin: THAT'S RIGHT, 

[Captioner] 19:56:56
IT'S INCREASING.

[Captioner] 19:56:57
>> Councilmember Salwan: SO WITH 

[Captioner] 19:56:58
THIS HAVING TO PAY THE MONEY 

[Captioner] 19:57:00
BACK, WHAT SERVICES SPECIFICALLY 

[Captioner] 19:57:00
WERE CUT?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO THE ONLY 

[Captioner] 19:57:05
THING THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE 

[Captioner] 19:57:07
IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR TO 

[Captioner] 19:57:12
ADDRESS THE REVENUE SHORTFALL IS

[Captioner] 19:57:15
 TO SUSPEND THE ADDITIONAL 

[Captioner] 19:57:16
TRANSFERS FOR MAINTENANCE THAT 

[Captioner] 19:57:19
WE HAD PUT IN THIS YEAR'S 

[Captioner] 19:57:19
BUDGET.

[Captioner] 19:57:22
SO EARLIER YOU HAD ALLUDED TO 

[Captioner] 19:57:24
THE FACT THAT WE HAD TAKEN 

[Captioner] 19:57:26
ONE-TIME MONEY AND USED TO DO 

[Captioner] 19:57:28
SOME THINGS LIKE MAKE AN 

[Captioner] 19:57:31
ADDITIONAL OPEB CONTRIBUTION, WE 

[Captioner] 19:57:34
PAID DOWN SOME OF THE CITY'S 

[Captioner] 19:57:36
BONDS, WE ESTABLISHED A ACCRUED 

[Captioner] 19:57:39
LEAVE LIQUIDATION RESERVE, SO WE 

[Captioner] 19:57:42
DID A LOT OF THINGS TO TRY TO 

[Captioner] 19:57:45
USE THAT ONE-TIME MONEY AND THEN 

[Captioner] 19:57:46
WE FELT THAT AT LEAST SOME PART 

[Captioner] 19:57:48
OF THAT WAS PROBABLY GOING TO BE 

[Captioner] 19:57:48
ONGOING.

[Captioner] 19:57:50
SO THE VERY FIRST PART OF THAT 

[Captioner] 19:57:54
THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO 

[Captioner] 19:57:55
PROGRAM WAS MAINTENANCE 

[Captioner] 19:57:55
TRANSFERS IN THE NEW YEAR.

[Captioner] 19:57:58
SO WE DID IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET 

[Captioner] 19:58:02
INCLUDE ADDITIONAL TRANSFERS FOR 

[Captioner] 19:58:03
MAINTENANCE, THOSE ARE 

[Captioner] 19:58:04
ADDITIONAL, AND THEN AS SOON AS 

[Captioner] 19:58:07
WE REALIZED THAT, HEY, THAT 

[Captioner] 19:58:08
WASN'T REALLY ONGOING REVENUE 

[Captioner] 19:58:09
AFTER ALL, THAT THAT WAS GOING 

[Captioner] 19:58:12
TO GO AWAY, WE SUSPENDED THOSE 

[Captioner] 19:58:12
TRANSFERS.

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SO WE DIDN'T STOP ANYTHING THAT 

[Captioner] 19:58:16
WE WERE ALREADY DOING.

[Captioner] 19:58:18
IT'S JUST THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE 

[Captioner] 19:58:20
TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE 

[Captioner] 19:58:22
WERE HOPING TO -- WITH WHAT WE 

[Captioner] 19:58:24
HAD THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE NEW 

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REVENUE.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: SO JUST 

[Captioner] 19:58:27
TO FOLLOW UP, THAT WAS AN 

[Captioner] 19:58:31
ENHANCEMENT SERVICE THAT WE WERE 

[Captioner] 19:58:32
CONTEMPLATING, BUT BECAUSE OF 

[Captioner] 19:58:33
WHAT WE FOUND OUT, WE PULLED 

[Captioner] 19:58:34
BACK?

[Captioner] 19:58:35
>> Mr. Persselin: THAT'S 

[Captioner] 19:58:35
CORRECT.

[Captioner] 19:58:36
>> Councilmember Salwan: IT WAS 

[Captioner] 19:58:38
NOT CUTTING ANY SERVICES FROM 

[Captioner] 19:58:39
WHERE WE WERE AT THE BASELINE.

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>> Mr. Persselin: THAT'S 

[Captioner] 19:58:40
CORRECT.

[Captioner] 19:58:41
>> Councilmember Salwan: 

[Captioner] 19:58:41
EXCELLENT.

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AND THEN THERE'S ALSO -- WAS A 

[Captioner] 19:58:48
CONCERN RAISED THAT OUR 

[Captioner] 19:58:49
ASSUMPTIONS WERE OVERLY ROSIE, 

[Captioner] 19:58:52
LIKE WE WERE ANTICIPATING 7% 

[Captioner] 19:58:53
GROWTH, THAT IS CORRECT?

[Captioner] 19:58:58
YOU SOUND TO ME LIKE YOU SAID 3% 

[Captioner] 19:59:00
WAS WHAT YOU WERE THINKING, BUT 

[Captioner] 19:59:01
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

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>> Mr. Persselin: I'M NOT SURE.

[Captioner] 19:59:08
ARE YOU REFERRING TO

[Captioner] 19:59:10
 THE CURRENT BUDGET?

[Captioner] 19:59:13
>> Councilmember Salwan: YEAH, 

[Captioner] 19:59:14
GOING FORWARD.

[Captioner] 19:59:15
>> Mr. Persselin: I THINK THE 

[Captioner] 19:59:16
PROJECTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE 

[Captioner] 19:59:18
CURRENT BUDGET ARE BASED ON THE 

[Captioner] 19:59:22
INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE 

[Captioner] 19:59:25
HISTORICAL GROWTH PATTERNS AND 

[Captioner] 19:59:26
INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 

[Captioner] 19:59:28
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE GENERAL 

[Captioner] 19:59:31
ECONOMY AND EACH OF OUR REVENUE 

[Captioner] 19:59:31
SEGMENTS.

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SO WHATEVER WE HAVE IN THE 

[Captioner] 19:59:38
PROPOSED BUDGET, WHAT WE THINK 

[Captioner] 19:59:41
ARE BEST ESTIMATES, AND I 

[Captioner] 19:59:44
CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THEY'RE 

[Captioner] 19:59:45
OVERLY ROSEY.

[Captioner] 19:59:46
>> Councilmember Salwan: I GUESS 

[Captioner] 19:59:48
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, IS THAT 

[Captioner] 19:59:50
A 3% INCREASE FROM THIS BUDGET 

[Captioner] 19:59:52
CYCLE TO THE FOLLOWING OR WHAT 

[Captioner] 19:59:54
PERCENTAGE ARE YOU INCREASING?

[Captioner] 19:59:56
>> Mr. Persselin: SO OVERALL, 

[Captioner] 19:59:57
WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT OUR 

[Captioner] 19:59:58
REVENUES ARE GOING TO INCREASE 

[Captioner] 19:59:58
3.5%.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: GREAT.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[Captioner] 20:00:02
THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

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>> Mayor Mei: OKAY.

[Captioner] 20:00:07
NEXT FOR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, 

[Captioner] 20:00:08
BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE -- I THINK 

[Captioner] 20:00:10
WE SHOULD GO TO COUNCILMEMBER 

[Captioner] 20:00:10
KASSAN.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: COUNCILMEMBER 

[Captioner] 20:00:12
KASSAN HAS HER HAND RAISED FOR 

[Captioner] 20:00:13
QUITE A WHILE.

[Captioner] 20:00:15
>> Mayor Mei: LET'S MAKE SURE WE 

[Captioner] 20:00:16
GO TO HER.

[Captioner] 20:00:16
THANK YOU.

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>> Councilmember Kassan: THANK 

[Captioner] 20:00:19
YOU.

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I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

[Captioner] 20:00:24
ONE QUESTION IS ABOUT THE BUDGET 

[Captioner] 20:00:25
UNCERTAINTY RESERVE.

[Captioner] 20:00:28
I FEEL LIKE I'M SEEING DIFFERENT 

[Captioner] 20:00:30
NUMBERS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE TO 

[Captioner] 20:00:30
ME.

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SO IN THIS PRESENTATION, IT SAYS 

[Captioner] 20:00:37
WE'RE REDUCING THE GENERAL FUND 

[Captioner] 20:00:39
BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE FROM 

[Captioner] 20:00:41
30 MILLION TO 24.4 MILLION.

[Captioner] 20:00:46
AT THE END OF FISCAL 23-24, BUT 

[Captioner] 20:00:48
IN THE MAY 5TH PRESENTATION, IT 

[Captioner] 20:00:51
SAID THAT WE HAD INCREASED THE 

[Captioner] 20:00:53
BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE TO 20 

[Captioner] 20:00:54
MILLION.

[Captioner] 20:00:56
SO HOW DID WE GET FROM 20 

[Captioner] 20:00:56
MILLION TO 30 MILLION?

[Captioner] 20:01:03
>> Mr. Persselin: ARE YOU 

[Captioner] 20:01:07
REFERRING TO THE MARCH MID YEAR 

[Captioner] 20:01:07
REPORT PRESENTATION?

[Captioner] 20:01:12
>> Councilmember Kassan: YEAH, 

[Captioner] 20:01:15
THE PRESENTATION WE GOT ON MARCH 

[Captioner] 20:01:16
5TH, IN THE SLIDES THAT WERE 

[Captioner] 20:01:18
PRESENTED, IT SAID THE BUDGET 

[Captioner] 20:01:20
UNCERTAINTY RESERVE WAS 

[Captioner] 20:01:23
INCREASED TO $20 MILLION IN THE 

[Captioner] 20:01:25
FISCAL YEAR 23-24 ADOPTED 

[Captioner] 20:01:25
BUDGET.

[Captioner] 20:01:26
>> Mr. Persselin: THAT'S 

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CORRECT.

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SO IN THE ADOPTED BUDGET, THE 

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CITY COUNCIL INCREASED THE 

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BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE TO 

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$20 MILLION AS PART OF THE MID 

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YEAR REPORT IN MARCH, THE CITY

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 COUNCIL TOOK ACTION TO TRANSFER

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 $10 MILLION FROM THE ACCRUED 

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LEAVE LIQUIDATION RESERVE TO THE 

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BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE WHICH 

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INCREASED TO $30 MILLION.

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>> Councilmember Kassan: OKAY, 

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GOT IT, THANK YOU.

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SO WE'LL BE ENDING NEXT YEAR 

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WITH BAWBLGHT UNCERTAINTY 

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RESERVE OF $6 MILLION, IS THAT 

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SOMETHING TO BE CONCERNED 

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ABOUT?

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THAT SEEMS PRETTY LOW.

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO $6 MILLION 

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MAY BE LESS THAN WHAT WE WOULD 

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FUND IT AT, BUT IT ALSO REFLECTS 

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THE FACT THAT THE BIG SOURCE OF 

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UNCERTAINTY IN FUTURE REVENUE 

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THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT FOR 

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THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS HAS BEEN 

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SALES TAX.

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SO WE SAW SALES TAX RAMPING UP 

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AND OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, 

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WE'VE INCREASED THE BUDGET 

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UNCERTAINTY RESERVE MORE OR LESS 

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IN STEP WITH THAT RAMP-UP.

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THE FACT NOW THAT WE HAVE 

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ADDRESSED THAT BIG RAMP-UP IN 

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SALES TAX SUGGESTS THAT WE 

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PROBABLY WERE FACING A LOWER 

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LEVEL OF REVENUE UNCERTAINTY 

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THAN WE WERE BEFORE.

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SO I DON'T KNOW THAT $6 MILLION 

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IS A CAUSE FOR CONCERN.

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AS I MENTIONED EARLIER TONIGHT, 

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FOR MANY YEARS WE WERE CARRYING 

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$3.6 MILLION IN THE BUDGET 

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UNCERTAINTY RESERVE.

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SO IN THE 25-26 PROPOSED BUDGET, 

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WE'LL RE-EVALUATE THE LEVEL OF 

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RISK THAT THE CITY IS FACING AND 

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PROBABLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION 

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AT THAT TIME ABOUT WHETHER WE 

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NEED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET 

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UNCERTAINTY RESERVE AS PART OF 

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THAT PROPOSED BUDGET.

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>> Councilmember Kassan: THANK 

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YOU.

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AND THEN I JUST WANT TO SET THE 

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RECORD STRAIGHT ON SOME OF THE 

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THINGS THAT COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN 

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WAS ASKING ABOUT.

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IN TERMS OF THE $46 MILLION

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 SHORTFALL, THAT WAS THE 

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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PROJECTED 

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BUDGET AND THE ACTUAL BUDGET, 

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THAT IS CORRECT, RIGHT, $46 

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MILLION DIFFERENCE IN THE 

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PROJECTIONS AND THE -- AND WHAT 

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IT'S LOOKING LIKE IT WILL TURN 

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OUT TO BE?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO I'M NOT 

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SURE OF THE CONTEXT OF THIS $46 

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MILLION.

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WHEN I PRESENTED TO THE CITY 

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COUNCIL IN MARCH, IT APPEARED 

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THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A 

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LARGER REVENUE SHORT FALL THAN 

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IT TURNS OUT THAT WE REALLY DO.

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SO IF THAT'S WHAT'S BEING 

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REFERRED TO, THEN I WOULD SAY 

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THAT THAT WAS BASICALLY OLD NEWS 

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AT THIS POINT.

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>> Councilmember Kassan: SO THE 

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ADOPTED BUDGET WAS $285.3 

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MILLION, AND THE ACTUAL -- IN 

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TERMS OF REVENUES, AND THE 

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ACTUAL IS HOW MUCH?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO I'M GOING 

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TO TAKE A LOOK AT MY SLIDES FOR 

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A SECOND, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE 

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SURE THAT I DON'T MISSPEAK.

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SO THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE 

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ANTICIPATING FOR THE CURRENT

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 YEAR

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 IS $264.4 MILLION.

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>> Councilmember Kassan: OKAY, 

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SO IT'S A $20 MILLION 

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DIFFERENCE.

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>> Mr. Persselin: RIGHT.

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>> Councilmember Kassan: OKAY, 

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GREAT.

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THANK YOU.

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AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION 

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AND I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU WILL 

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BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS.

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I NOTICED IN THE

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 SECTION ON THE POLICE 

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OBJECTIVES, THERE WAS NO MENTION 

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WHATSOEVER OF ANIMAL SERVICES.

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THE COUNCIL DIRECTED THAT THE 

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POLICE DEPARTMENT TO IMPLEMENT A 

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KITTEN FOSTER PROGRAM AND A T & 

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R PROGRAM.

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THAT WAS ACTUALLY MENTIONED IN 

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THE PREVIOUS BUDGET THAT THEY 

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WOULD DO A T & R PROGRAM AND NOW 

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NEITHER OF THOSE THINGS IS 

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CALLED OUT AT ALL IN THE BUDGET, 

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AND I HAVE BEEN HEARING SOME 

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RUMBLINGS THAT EVEN THOUGH THE 

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COUNCIL DID DIRECT ANIMAL 

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SERVICES TO WORK ON THESE 

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PROGRAMS, THAT THERE'S NO 

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IMMEDIATE PLANS TO DO SO AND 

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THERE'S A CONCERN THAT MAYBE 

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THERE JUST STILL ISN'T ENOUGH 

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RESOURCES, SO I JUST WONDERED, 

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ARE THESE PROGRAMS GOING TO 

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HAPPEN IN THIS COMING FISCAL 

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YEAR OR ARE THEY NOT?

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I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT LISTED AT 

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ALL AS OBJECTIVES OF THE POLICE 

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DEPARTMENT.

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: CHIEF 

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WASHINGTON IS ON AND I'LL REFER 

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THAT QUESTION TO HIM.

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>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

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HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME OKAY?

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: YOU'RE 

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GOOD.

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>> OKAY.

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YES, SO WE ARE HAVING CONSTANT 

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CONVERSATIONS TO YOUR POINT, 

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COUNCILMEMBER KASSAN, ABOUT ALL 

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OF THESE INITIATIVES THAT WE 

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RECEIVED FROM THE APRIL 4TH 

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MEETING THAT WE HAD, AND 

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ALTHOUGH IT MAY NOT BE REFLECTED 

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IN THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE YOU, I 

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CAN ASSURE YOU THAT ALL OF THOSE 

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THINGS ARE BEING THOROUGHLY 

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VETTED, DISCUSSED AND WE ARE 

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CONTINUING WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY

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 TO DETERMINE IF OR HOW WE CAN 

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MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE 

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INITIATIVES.

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SO WE JUST HAD A MEETING EARLIER 

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TODAY ABOUT MANY OF THE THINGS 

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YOU JUST MENTIONED.

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>> Councilmember Kassan: DO YOU 

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EXPECT THAT EITHER OR BOTH OF 

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THOSE PROGRAMS WILL BE 

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IMPLEMENTED IN THE COMING FISCAL 

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YEAR?

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>> LIKE 24-25 FISCAL YEAR?

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>> Councilmember Kassan: YES.

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>> I THINK AS I MENTIONED BEFORE 

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IS, IT'S ALL CONTINGENT UPON 

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WHETHER OR NOT WE GET OUR 

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STAFFING STABILIZED, WHICH IT 

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LOOKS LIKE IT HAS, AND OUR 

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ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF 

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THESE INITIATIVES.

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SO THE STAFF HAS ACTUALLY 

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PREPARED A DOCUMENT TO RESPOND 

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TO SOME OF -- WELL, ALL OF THE

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 QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT THE 

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COUNCIL PRESENTED ON APRIL 4TH, 

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SO IF IT'S FEASIBLE, IF IT'S 

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HUMANE, IF IT ALIGNS WITH -- 

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OBVIOUSLY THE COUNCIL'S 

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DIRECTION, WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING 

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TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO 

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IMPLEMENT THOSE OBJECTIVES.

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>> Councilmember Kassan: WHAT 

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WOULD YOU SAY IS THE PERCENTAGE 

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LIKELIHOOD THAT A T & R PROGRAM 

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WILL BE STARTED IN THE COMING 

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FISCAL YEAR, IF YOU CAN POSSIBLY 

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ESTIMATE THAT?

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>> THAT'S DIFFICULT TO PUT A 

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PERCENTAGE ON THAT BUT, YOU 

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KNOW, ALL INDICATION IS THAT 

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FIRST OF ALL WE HAVE TO GET THE

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 SUPPORT FOR THE APPROVED 

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VETERINARIAN POSITION, THAT'S 

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KEY SO WE HAVE TO GET THE 

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FOUNDATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN 

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PLACE REALLY TO SUPPORT THAT 

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TYPE OF INITIATIVE.

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SO THE SOONER WE CAN GET THOSE 

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POSITIONS IN PLACE, I THINK THE 

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SOONER WE CAN MOVE ON THESE 

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INITIATIVES.

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SO WE'RE KIND OF AT THE MERCY OF 

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SOME OF THE STAFF THAT WAS 

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RECENTLY APPROVED IN ANIMAL 

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SERVICES, AND YOU KNOW, THE 

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FASTER WE CAN GET THOSE 

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RESOURCES IN, I THINK THE FASTER 

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WE CAN -- I WILL BE BETTER 

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PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT 

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QUESTION.

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>> Councilmember Kassan: OKAY.

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I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED THAT 

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IT WAS INCLUDED AS A PRIORITY IN 

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THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR BUDGET 

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AND IT'S NO LONGER INCLUDED, 

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EVEN THOUGH IT'S SOMETHING THAT 

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THE COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY 

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DIRECTED TO HAPPEN.

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SO I JUST HOPE MAYBE THAT THAT 

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CAN BE CHANGED IN THE FINAL 

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VERSION.

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ANYWAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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>> Mayor Mei: THANK YOU.

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NEXT CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, 

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COUNCILMEMBER COX.

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>> Councilmember Cox: THANK 

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YOU.

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I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP, THANK 

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YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, AND I 

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WANTED TO FIND OUT, IN TERMS OF 

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THE FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT FOR 

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THE WINTER STORMS AND COVID-19, 

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YOU MENTIONED WE HAVE RECEIVED 

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$1.5 MILLION.

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HOW MUCH MORE IS STILL OWED TO 

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US?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO FOR COVID, 

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WE HAD -- WE BASICALLY BROKE OUR 

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COSTS INTO THREE PROJECTS.

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WE'VE BEEN -- WE'VE RECEIVED 

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CASH REIMBURSEMENT FOR ONE.

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WE'RE WAITING ON -- THEY'VE 

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OBLIGATED THAT -- BUT WE HAVEN'T 

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YET RECEIVED THE CASH FOR THE 

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SECOND.

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WE HAVE ABOUT $140,000 REMAINING 

[Captioner] 20:10:54
FOR THE THIRD PROJECT, WHICH 

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RELATED TO THE SHELTER,

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 NON-CONGREGATE SHELTERING THAT 

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WE WERE DOING.

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WITH REGARD TO THE WINTER 

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STORMS, WE HAVE A MUCH LONGER 

[Captioner] 20:11:12
LIST OF

[Captioner] 20:11:14
 PROJECTS, AND ALTHOUGH WE HAVE 

[Captioner] 20:11:15
RECEIVED REIMBURSEMENT FOR A 

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COUPLE OF THOSE, IT'S GOING TO 

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BE A WHILE BEFORE WE RECEIVE THE 

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REST.

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ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THAT WE'RE 

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KIND OF CONSTANTLY NEGOTIATING 

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WITH FEMA OVER WHAT COSTS 

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THEY'LL ACTUALLY REIMBURSE, SO I 

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DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF 

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MYSELF AND MAKE A CLAIM ABOUT 

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WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.

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BASED ON OUR COVID EXPERIENCE, 

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WE DID HAVE TO TAKE A HAIR CUT 

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ON A COUPLE OF THOSE

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 THINGS.

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SO WE KNOW THAT WE'VE SPENT OR 

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WE WILL HAVE SPENT PROBABLY 

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SOMEWHERE IN THE $3 MILLION 

[Captioner] 20:11:54
RANGE FOR THE WINTER STORMS.

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I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL GET MOST 

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OF THAT REIMBURSED, BUT AS I 

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SAID EARLIER, THE TIMING AND THE 

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AMOUNTS ARE REALLY UNCERTAIN.

[Captioner] 20:12:05
>> Councilmember Cox: AND HOW 

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MUCH -- I GUESS I'M A LITTLE 

[Captioner] 20:12:07
CONFUSED.

[Captioner] 20:12:09
WHAT IS STILL LEFT FOR COVID 

[Captioner] 20:12:09
REIMBURSEMENT?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO WE HAD A 

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PROGRAM WHERE WE PROVIDED WHAT'S 

[Captioner] 20:12:18
CALLED NON-CONGREGATE SHELTER 

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FOR PEOPLE AT HIGH RISK OF 

[Captioner] 20:12:20
COVID.

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>> Councilmember Cox: I JUST 

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WANT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

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>> Mr. Persselin: OH, SORRY.

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IT'S IN THE $130,000 RANGE.

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I THINK IT'S LIKE $139,000, IF 

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I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

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>> Councilmember Cox: THAT'S 

[Captioner] 20:12:33
STILL LEFT FOR US TO BE MADE 

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WHOLE?

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>> Mr. Persselin: THAT'S 

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CORRECT.

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>> Councilmember Cox: OKAY, 

[Captioner] 20:12:35
THANK YOU.

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I HAD SOME QUESTIONS, I WAS 

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CATCHING UP ON AS YOU WERE 

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READING OUT ABOUT WITH THE 

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FREMONT POLICE THAT THEY'RE 

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ADDING AN ADDITIONAL STAFF.

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I THINK I CAUGHT WIND -- I THINK 

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IT WAS A LIEUTENANT POSITION, 

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AND PART OF MY QUESTION IS THAT 

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I KNOW FROM OUR COUNCIL RETREAT, 

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IT WAS TALKED ABOUT THAT OUR

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 VACANCIES FOR THE FREMONT 

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POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH POLICE 

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OFFICERS WAS ABOUT 30 VACANCIES, 

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AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT, IS 

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SOME OF THAT ADDITIONAL 

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STAFFING, WHY NOT TRY TO SEE HOW 

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WE CAN INCREASE RECRUITING, AND 

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SOME SORT OF RECRUITING BONUS, 

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YOU KNOW, TURN SOME OF THAT -- 

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ONE POSITION INTO USING IT AS A 

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RECRUITING BONUS TO BE 

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COMPETITIVE IN RECRUITING SOME 

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OF OUR FREMONT POLICE BECAUSE A 

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LOT OF OTHER COUNTIES AND 

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CITIES, THEY ARE GIVING AWAY A 

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LOT OF BONUSES AND OTHER 

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LUCRATIVE OR CREATIVE WAYS TO 

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HIRE AND RETAIN.

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I KNOW SOME OF IT MAY SOUND LIKE 

[Captioner] 20:13:42
IT COULD BE POSSIBLY 

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NEGOTIATIONS, BUT I THINK THAT 

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RECRUITING PART IS A BIG PIECE 

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THAT IF WE'RE AT AROUND 30, I 

[Captioner] 20:13:49
DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW, THE 

[Captioner] 20:13:52
CURRENT VACANCY NUMBER, BUT I'M 

[Captioner] 20:13:54
CONCERNED THAT IT COULD GET 

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WORSE, ESPECIALLY OVER THE 

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SUMMER AS WE GET INTO NEW BUDGET 

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YEAR, THAT WE COULD LOSE MORE 

[Captioner] 20:14:03
PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT MORE 

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MONEY TO LURE PEOPLE AWAY THAT 

[Captioner] 20:14:07
ARE MORE EXPERIENCED.

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: THE 

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CHIEF AND I SHARE YOUR CONCERN, 

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AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE AND 

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I AND OUR HUMAN RESOURCES 

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DIRECTOR, TINA GALLEGOS, HAD A 

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MEETING THIS AFTERNOON TO 

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DISCUSS THIS VERY THING.

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LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AND MORE 

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CREATIVE WAYS TO RECRUIT 

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OFFICERS HERE TO THE CITY OF 

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FREMONT.

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SO AT THIS POINT, THERE ARE MANY 

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THINGS ON THE TABLE THAT WE WILL 

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BE RESEARCHING FURTHER, BUT 

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AGAIN, ONE OF OUR NUMBER ONE 

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PRIORITIES WHICH IS ALSO ONE OF 

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YOUR PRIORITIES AS A COUNCIL IS 

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TO ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY, AND SO 

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RECRUITING MORE OFFICERS IS TOP 

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OF OUR LIST.

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>> Councilmember Cox: OKAY.

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I JUST KNOW FROM HAVING A LOT OF 

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TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT SOME OF 

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THE RESIDENTS AND I'M SURE 

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PROBABLY MY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS 

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MAY HAVE FACED SOME OF THE SAME 

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SERVICE LEVELS THAT IF THEY CALL 

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IN AND THEY SEE SOMETHING 

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DANGEROUS, WE HAD A CASE WHERE 

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AN INDIVIDUAL WAS WALKING AROUND 

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IN DISTRICT 6, IRVINGTON 

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NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH A MACHETE, 

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AND SOMEONE HAD CALLED TO REPORT 

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IT, AND IT WAS NOT GIVEN 

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NECESSARILY A SATISFACTION THAT 

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A POLICE OFFICER WAS GOING TO BE 

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DISPATCHED.

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SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE 

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SERVICE MODEL AND THE COMMUNITY 

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SAFETY.

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SO IF THERE'S SOME WAY THAT OUR 

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BUDGET, IF IT CAN BE ADJUSTED TO 

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ALLOW FOR SOME SORT OF 

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RECRUITING, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD 

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PRIORITY FOR US TO FOCUS ON FOR 

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COMMUNITY SAFETY.

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BUT I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THE 

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MEETING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE 

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-- SEE IF THERE'S SOME WAYS TO 

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BE MORE CREATIVE TO NOT HAVE 

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THOSE LEAVE US BUT BE ABLE TO 

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STAY.

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IN THAT REGARDS.

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ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I 

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WANTED TO FIND OUT WAS

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 THAT AS FAR AS -- WE SEE A LOT 

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OF THINGS HAPPENING WITH OUR 

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FLEETS AND I KNOW YOU TALKED 

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ABOUT THE EV CHARGING STATIONS.

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WHAT IS IN OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW 

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FOR, I GUESS, LIKE -- ESPECIALLY 

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FOR THE FREMONT POLICE, WHAT 

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KIND OF EQUIPMENT OR CARS ARE WE 

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GOING TO BE PURCHASING MORE CARS 

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AS PART OF THE BUDGET?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO WE DO HAVE 

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POLICE VEHICLES INCLUDED IN THE 

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BUDGET FOR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.

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I KNOW THAT WE

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 HAVE A SET OF PATROL VEHICLES 

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THAT HAVE BEEN ORDERED AND ARE 

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DUE SOMETIME AROUND NOW, I DON'T 

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KNOW WHETHER THEY'VE COME IN OR 

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NOT, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE IN 

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THE PROCESS OF SETTING UP AN 

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ORDER FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF 

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POLICE VEHICLES

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>> Councilmember Cox: HOW MANY 

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APPROXIMATELY ARE INCLUDED IN 

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THIS BUDGET?

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>> Mr. Persselin: YOU KNOW, I 

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CAN'T RECALL.

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I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY 

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FROM FLEET ON SPECIFICALLY.

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I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT 

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THESE ARE SCHEDULED 

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REPLACEMENTS, SO WE'RE NOT 

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ADDING VEHICLES TO THE FLEET.

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WE'RE REPLACING VEHICLES THAT 

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ARE ALREADY IN THE FLEET ON A 

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SCHEDULE THAT'S BASED ON 

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EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT HAS TO 

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DO WITH THE AGE OF THE VEHICLE, 

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THE MILEAGE, AND ITS MAINTENANCE 

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ISSUES.

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SO THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF VEHICLES 

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THAT WE REPLACE EACH YEAR IS 

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BASED IN LARGE PART ON THAT 

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EVALUATION CRITERIA, SO 

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NOMINALLY, WE MAY HAVE A CERTAIN 

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NUMBER OF VEHICLES SCHEDULED FOR

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 REPLACEMENT, BUT WE USE 

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DEFINITELY OBJECTIVE CRITERIA 

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FOR REPLACING THEM SO THAT WE'RE 

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NOT JUST GETTING RID OF STUFF 

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THAT'S GOOD JUST BECAUSE IT'S 

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SCHEDULED.

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>> Councilmember Cox: OKAY, I 

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APPRECIATE THAT.

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I KNOW THAT IT'S PART OF THE 

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PLANNING OUT FOR THE NEXT COUPLE 

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YEARS TO DO THE REPLACEMENT.

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SO THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR.

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COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE HUMAN 

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SERVICES, I THINK I SAW THERE 

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WAS A 1.7 STAFF IS ADDED, SO 

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YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT WAS TWO 

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TEMP POSITIONS?

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I'M TRYING TO RECALL WHAT YOU 

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WERE REFERRING TO ON THAT.

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO ONE OF THE 

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POSITIONS IS A FULL TIME 

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POSITION THAT'S RELATED TO A 

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COUNTY PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE 

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REQUIRED TO HAVE SOMEBODY WITH A 

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CERTAIN SKILLSET.

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I THINK THE PART THAT MIGHT HAVE 

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BEEN CONFUSING WAS THAT RIGHT 

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NOW, WE HAVE TWO PART-TIME 

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OFFICE SPECIALISTS WHO PERFORM 

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DUTIES THAT INCLUDE DATA ENTRY 

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INTO SOME OF THE VARIOUS 

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SYSTEMS, SO YOU MAY KNOW THAT, 

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FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNTY HOMELESS 

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SYSTEM REQUIRES US TO DO DATA 

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ENTRY FOR EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE 

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DEALING WITH.

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AND THEN SECONDLY,

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 TO ESSENTIALLY PERFORM FRONT 

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OFFICE TYPE WORK FOR PEOPLE 

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COMING IN TO RECEIVE SERVICES AT 

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THE FAMILY RESOURCE CENTER.

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BECAUSE OF BOTH THE COMBINATION 

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OF INCREASING ADMINISTRATIVE 

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REQUIREMENTS OF ALL THESE 

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VARIOUS PROGRAMS AND THEN 

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SECONDLY BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE 

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PEOPLE COMING IN TO BE SERVED, 

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WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE BOTH OF 

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THOSE PART-TIME POSITIONS TO 

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FULL TIME.

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AND AS I NOTED, THOSE ARE 

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PRIMARILY BEING PAID FOR FROM 

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THE CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY, 

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AND THEN A COMBINATION OF SOME 

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OTHER GRANTS.

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>> Councilmember Cox: OKAY.

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IT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL, HAVING 

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1.7, YOU CAN'T HAVE .7 OF A 

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PERSON IN THAT REGARD.

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I ALSO -- I KNOW THAT THERE'S 

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BEEN SOME DISCUSSION IN THE PAST 

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REGARDING -- WITH THE FIRE 

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DEPARTMENT.

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AND HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO 

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ADDRESS THE SERVICE MODEL FOR 

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AMBULANCE, AND I KNOW THAT SOME 

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OF THE COUNTIES ARE GOING OUT 

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FOR RFPs THAT COULD POSSIBLY 

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TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS TO AWARD 

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FOR A NEW AMBULANCE SERVICES.

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AND WITH OUR BUDGET, DOES IT

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 INCLUDE ANY SURGE AMBULANCES 

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FOR THE INTERIM AS WE WAIT FOR 

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TWO YEARS FOR CONTRACT AWARD?

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>> Mr. Persselin: THE BUDGET 

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DOES NOT.

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>> Councilmember Cox: OKAY.

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IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE FIRE 

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DEPARTMENT DECIDED NOT TO DO AND 

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STILL MAINTAIN THE MODEL THEY 

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HAD PROPOSED BEFORE TO MAINTAIN 

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FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS?

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IS THAT GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT?

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: WITH 

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THE UNCERTAINTY OF WHERE THE RFP 

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WILL LAND, AND THE FACT THAT

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 OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT LIKELY 

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WOULDN'T BE GOING OUT ON CALLS 

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LIKE AN AMBULANCE PROVIDER 

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WOULD, WE DETERMINED THAT THAT 

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WOULDN'T BENESS SAIR HE'LL FOR 

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US TO SPEND THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY 

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THIS YEAR, UNCERTAIN AS TO WHAT 

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OUR MODEL WILL LOOK LIKE TWO 

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YEARS FROM NOW.

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AND SO IF NECESSARY, IF INDEED 

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WE DO GO TO A MODEL LIKE THAT OR 

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OTHER CITIES GO TO A MODEL LIKE 

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THAT, WE'RE PREPARED TO PARTNER 

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WITH THOSE CITIES AND WHOEVER 

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THE AMBULANCE PROVIDER IS.

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THOSE WERE THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE 

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BEEN HAVING.

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>> Councilmember Cox: SO WE 

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WOULD BE UNDER AN MOU 

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ARRANGEMENT WITH SOME OF THE 

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OTHER CITIES IF WE HAD A JOINT 

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COLLABORATIVE AGREEMENT?

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: 

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SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YES.

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>> Councilmember Cox: OKAY, I 

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JUST THOUGHT I'D ASK THAT.

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AND IN TERMS OF AS WE PLAN 

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AHEAD, I KNOW THERE'S SOME 

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INFORMATION THAT WILL BE COMING 

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NEXT WEEK, ON MAY 21ST, FOR THE 

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HOMELESS RESPONSE REPORT.

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HOW MUCH OF THE BUDGET DID WE 

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INCREASE FROM PREVIOUS YEAR TO 

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NOW -- I MEAN FROM NOW UNTIL 

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NEXT YEAR FOR THE HOMELESS 

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ENCAMPMENT, HOW MUCH ARE WE 

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ANTICIPATING IN THE BUDGET?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO THE 

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ENHANCEMENT WAS, I THINK, 

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SOMETHING LIKE $282,000 A YEAR 

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FOR THE CONTRACT TO INCREASE THE 

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FREQUENCY OF THE CLEAN-UPS.

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>> Councilmember Cox: OKAY.

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AND I GUESS I KNOW WE'RE GOING 

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TO HAVE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS AND 

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REVIEWS AFTER SIX MONTHS, SO 

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WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

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OKAY.

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THAT'S THE END OF MY QUESTIONS.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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>> Mayor Mei: WE HAVE ALSO EACH 

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OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS, I THINK 

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COUNCILMEMBER KASSAN ALSO RAISED 

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HER HAND AGAIN BUT WE'RE GOING 

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TO GO TO COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL 

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FIRST, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO DUE 

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FOR A BREAK AROUND 8:30, A 

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LITTLE AFTER 8:30.

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>> Councilmember Campbell: I 

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ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF 

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QUESTIONS, A LOT OF IT WAS 

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ALREADY MENTIONED.

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I JUST WANTED TO -- THE A

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 REALLY HIGH LEVEL ABOUT THE 

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FORECAST AND ASSUMPTIONS WE'RE 

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MAKING FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET, 

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IN YOUR BUDGET PRESENTATION 

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BOOK, IT SAYS

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 THAT DUE TO THE INTERNATIONAL 

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CONFLICTS, AND YOU'VE MENTIONED 

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THAT, AND DOMESTIC POLITICAL 

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POLARIZATION OVER THE NEXT 

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YEARS, BUT YOU DO ASSUME 

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CONTINUED INCREASE IN GROWTH 

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OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

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SO MY QUESTION IS, AND I

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 WENT ABOUT IT A ROUNDABOUT WAY, 

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IS THIS A CONSERVATIVE GROWTH OR 

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ARE WE BEING MORE AGGRESSIVE IN 

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OUR GROWTH ESTIMATES?

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>> Mr. Persselin: THIS IS A BEST 

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ESTIMATE BASED ON THE 

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INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT 

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NOW.

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SO I HAVE NOTED THOSE RISKS 

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BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO 

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UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS CAN 

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CHANGE, AS WE SAW HAPPENED LIKE 

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WHEN RUSSIA INVADED UKRAINE AND 

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OIL PRICES JUMPED UP, SO THINGS 

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CAN DEFINITELY HAPPEN IF 

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CONGRESS LOCKS UP AND FAILS TO 

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PASS A BUDGET OR FAILS TO RAISE 

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THE DEBT CEILING, THAT COULD 

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HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

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BUT OUR ESTIMATE IS BASED ON 

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WHAT WE THINK IS MOST LIKELY TO 

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OCCUR OVER THE FORECAST 

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HORIZON.

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SO IT'S NEITHER CONSERVATIVE NOR 

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AGGRESSIVE.

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>> Councilmember Campbell: OKAY, 

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AND I UNDERSTAND YOU GET YOUR 

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NUMBERS FROM VARIOUS SOURCES AND 

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THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 

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UNEMPLOYMENT RATE AND SOME OTHER 

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AREAS THAT WE PROJECT, BUT DO WE 

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EVER -- DO WE JUST TAKE WHAT 

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THEY GIVE US OR DO WE -- BECAUSE 

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I GUESS BECAUSE OF THE TAX 

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THING, THE SALES TAX THING, I'M 

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WONDERING IF WE DON'T 

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NECESSARILY HAVE TO TAKE THE 

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EXACT NUMBERS THAT THEY GIVE US, 

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THAT WE COULD MAYBE BE A LITTLE 

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BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE AND IF 

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THEY SAY 2, WE CAN SAY 1.

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DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO IT'S 

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IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE INTO 

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ACCOUNT ALL THE INFORMATION THAT 

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WE HAVE, SO -- AND THERE ARE 

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VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS AROUND THE 

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CITY WHO HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE 

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FORECAST THAT WE MAKE FOR 

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REVENUES.

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SO IF WE WERE TO BE OVERLY 

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CONSERVATIVE IN OUR REVENUE 

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FORECAST, THERE ARE STAKEHOLDERS 

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THAT WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT 

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WE'RE UNDERPLAYING OUR ABILITY 

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TO DELIVER SERVICES TO THE 

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COMMUNITY.

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AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, IF 

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WE WERE TO BE OVERLY AGGRESSIVE 

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IN TERMS OF OUR REVENUE 

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FORECASTS, WE MIGHT WIND UP IN 

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SITUATIONS WHERE WE'VE 

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OVERCOMMITTED, AND THEN HAVE TO 

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TAKE SOME TYPE OF A DRASTIC 

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ACTION LIKE MELEING OFF STAFF.

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 MELEE --

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 LIKE LAYING OFF STAFF.

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TAKING THE BEST INFORMATION 

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AVAILABLE, COMBINING IT WITH OUR 

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HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE, SO IF WE 

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SEE THINGS TYPICALLY INCREASE BY 

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WHATEVER IT IS, 5% A YEAR, MAYBE 

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THIS LAST YEAR THINGS INCREASED 

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BY 7%, BUT THAT MIGHT NOT MEAN 

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THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP 

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INCREASING AT 7%, SO WE MIGHT GO 

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FOR THE LONG TERM AVERAGE RATHER 

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THAN WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE MOST 

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RECENT HISTORY.

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SO THAT WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT 

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WE DON'T EITHER GET AHEAD OF 

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OURSELVES OR POTENTIALLY GET 

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BEHIND OURSELVES.

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>> Councilmember Campbell: 

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RIGHT.

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AND THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE 

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PROJECTING REVENUES, BUT LET'S 

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TALK ABOUT EXPENSES.

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BECAUSE WE WANT TO SPEND -- WE 

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DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO SPEND 

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EVERYTHING WE HAVE BECAUSE 

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THAT'S WHY WE HAVE OUR RESERVES, 

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SO THAT WE DON'T.

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SO HOW DO WE -- HOW DO WE 

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FORECAST THE EXPENSES SO THAT

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 THEY MEET THE REVENUE AND WE'RE 

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ABLE TO SET ASIDE WITHOUT THE

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 HISTORICAL AND THE NATIONAL 

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AVERAGE AND THE UNEMPLOYMENT 

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RATE AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO THE VAST 

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MAJORITY OF OUR EXPENSES RELATE 

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TO PERSONNEL.

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AND WE HAVE MOUs WHICH

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 DEFINE INCREASES FOR BOTH 

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THINGS LIKE SALARY AND SPECIALTY 

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PAYS, AND ALSO FOR BENEFIT 

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PAYMENTS.

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IN ADDITION, WE HAVE INFORMATION 

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FROM CALPERS ON WHAT THEY

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 ANTICIPATE PENSION COSTS TO BE 

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GOING FORWARD, AND WE ALSO HAVE 

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A CONSULTING ACTUARY THAT 

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ASSISTS US WITH OUR RETIREE 

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HEALTHCARE COSTS.

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SO WE USE INFORMATION FROM ALL 

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OF THOSE SOURCES TO PROJECT OUT

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 WHAT OUR PERSONNEL COSTS ARE 

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GOING TO BE.

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SO OVER THE NEXT YEAR, FOR 

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EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD 

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IDEA OF WHAT THOSE PERSONNEL 

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COSTS ARE.

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NOW AS I NOTED IN THE 

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PRESENTATION, OUR MOUs WITH OUR 

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BARGAINING UNITS END IN JUNE OF 

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2025.

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SO WE AREN'T MAKING ANY 

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ASSUMPTIONS AT ALL IN THE 

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FORECAST RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT 

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THOSE INCREASES MIGHT LOOK 

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LIKE.

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JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DON'T 

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KNOW AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO 

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NEGOTIATE OVER THOSE.

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>> Councilmember Campbell: 

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RIGHT.

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>> Mr. Persselin: FOR THE ITEMS 

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THAT ARE THINGS LIKE SUPPLIES OR 

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SERVICE AGREEMENTS, AGAIN, IN 

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THE COURSE OF LIKE THE NEXT ONE 

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YEAR, FOR A LOT OF THESE THINGS, 

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WE HAVE MULTIYEAR AGREEMENTS.

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AND SO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE COSTS 

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ARE GOING TO BE.

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WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA.

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THEY MIGHT HAVE A CPI

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 INFLATER, AND WE KNOW WHAT THE 

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CPI IS RIGHT NOW.

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GOING OUT FARTHER, WE DO HAVE TO 

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MAKE ASSUMPTIONS SO WE MIGHT 

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MAKE AN ASSUMPTION LIKE WE THINK 

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THAT OUR SUPPLY COSTS ARE GOING 

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TO INCREASE AT ABOUT 5% A YEAR.

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BUT I WOULD HIGHLIGHT THAT THE 

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IMPACT OF THOSE KINDS OF 

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PROJECTIONS IS RELATIVELY SMALL, 

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BECAUSE AGAIN IN THE GRAND 

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SCHEME OF THINGS, THE VAST 

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MAJORITY OF OUR COSTS RELATE TO 

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PERSONNEL.

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>> Councilmember Campbell: 

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GREAT.

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AND SPEAKING OF PERSONNEL, DOES 

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THIS FORECAST PROJECT VACANT 

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POSITIONS AS WELL?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO THIS DOES 

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INCLUDE A VACANCY SAVINGS 

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ASSUMPTION IN EACH YEAR.

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WE'RE ASSUMING THAT NEXT YEAR, 

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VACANCY SAVINGS DROPS A LITTLE 

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BIT TO ABOUT 7 1/2% OF OUR

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 THAT'S LESS THAN WHAT WE'RE 

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SEEING IN THE CURRENT YEAR, 

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CURRENT YEAR IS 7.9%

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 BUT 7.5% IS 

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WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR PERHAPS 

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A REASONABLE THING TO THINK.

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AND KNOWN WE'RE PROJECTING IT TO 

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DROP BACK DOWN IN THE NEXT TWO 

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YEARS THAT ARE MORE CONSISTENT 

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WITH THE LONGER TERM AVERAGE.

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BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL 

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-- ONCE YOU GET IDENTITY 

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BEYOND A YEAR YOU'RE REALLY 

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TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT CAN 

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CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY, WITHIN A 

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RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF 

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TIME.

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SO, YOU KNOW, VACANCIES DON'T 

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COME DOWN THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE 

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VACANCY SAVINGS IN NEXT YEAR'S 

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PROPOSED BUDGET.

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BUT IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN OUR 

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RECITING EFFORTS THEN MAYBE 

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WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOWER THE 

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SAVINGS EVENLY MORE.

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>> Councilmember Campbell:   DO 

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YOU -- WHEN YOU PREPARE IN YOUR 

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BUDGET YOU ANTICIPATE WITH ALL 

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THE -- SPEAKING BACK ON 

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STAFFING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR 

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STAFFING PROJECTIONS HERE, SO 

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YOU BASE YOUR PROJECTIONS ON 

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THESE PARTICULAR NUMBERS, 

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RIGHT?

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AND THEN AT THE OWNED OF THE 

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PERIOD YOU SAY I DIDN'T HAVE 172 

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EMPLOYEES, SO THAT'S MY VACANCY 

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SAVINGS AT THE OWNED OF THE 

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PERIOD?

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>> David Persselin:   SO THE 

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VACANCY SAVINGS IS THE 

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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR BUDGETED 

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PERSONNEL EXPENDITURES AND WHAT 

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WE ACTUALLY SPENT WHICH IS 

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ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

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>> Councilmember Campbell:   

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OKAY, AND THEN I WANTED TO NOTE 

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THAT BECAUSE WE DID HAVE THIS 

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CLAW-BACK IS WHAT HEUR CALLING 

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IT, WE HAVE NOT REALLY INCREASED 

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OUR STAFFING AT ALL.

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OUR PROJECTIONS FOR THE STAFFING 

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OTHER THAN THE ONE LIEU DOESN'T 

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AND THE 1.7 HUMAN SERVICES.

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DOES THAT PRESENT A PROBLEM FOR 

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US FOR THE 24-25 FISCAL YEAR, 

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GIVEN THAT WE NEED MORE POLICE 

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OFFICERS BUT THIS DOESN'T 

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INDICATE THAT WE WILL GET MORE 

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POLICE OFFICERS OR ANY MORE 

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STAFF FOR THAT -- BECAUSE IT'S 

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PRETTY FLAT.

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FROM WHAT WE HAVE, 2023-24 

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ESTIMATE.

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>> David Persselin:   SO THIS IS 

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DEFINITELY FLAT.

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BUT AS HAS BEEN MENTION OWED 

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EARLIER, WE ALSO HAVE A VERY 

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HIGH VACANCY RATE.

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SO ADDING MORE POSITIONS WHEN 

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YOU ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF 

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VACANCIES, DOESN'T NECESSARILY 

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DELIVER MORE SERVICES TO THE 

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COMMUNITY.

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SO IN FACT 24-25 MIGHT BE A NICE 

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PAUSE TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY 

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TO REDUCE THOSE VACANCIES, AND 

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TO GOAL OUR STAFFING UP TO THE 

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AUTHORIZED POSITIONS, AND THEN 

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HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE READY TO MOVE 

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FORWARD AND BE SUCCESSFUL AND 

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INCREASING STAFFING IN FUTURE 

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YEARS.

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>> Councilmember Campbell:   

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YES, THAT'S PROBABLY THE MISSING 

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ELEMENT HERE.

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WE DON'T SEE THE VACANCY RATE TO 

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DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE 

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AT THIS PROJECTED STAFFING LEVEL 

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OR NOT.

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SO THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Mei:   CLARIFYING 

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QUESTIONS, VICE MAYOR SHAO.

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>> Vice Mayor Shao:   THANK YOU, 

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MADAM MAYOR.

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THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

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AND I JUST THINK THAT MY 

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QUESTION FOR OVERALL PICTURE OF 

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THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL HAS BEEN 

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ANSWERED.

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HOWEVER, I DO HAVE SOME 

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QUESTIONS ABOUT LITTLE DETAILS, 

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FORGIVE ME IN ADVANCE, IF YOU 

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DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER

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 ARE 

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E-MAILS LOOK LIKE.

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I BASICALLY LOOK AT THE 

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SIGNIFICANT CHANGE BETWEEN THIS 

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YEAR'S BUDGET AND LAST YEAR'S 

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BUDGET AND I WOULD FOCUS ON TWO 

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DEPARTMENTS.

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ONE IS OUR CITY COUNCIL.

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AND THE BUDGET INCREASE FOR THE 

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MAJOR CHANGE IS OVER

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 27 DOLLARS 

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ACCOUNTING FOR MORE THAN 4% OF 

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THE INCREASE AND THE REASON 

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GIVEN IS THAT DUE TO HIGHER 

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INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY COSTS.

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I UNDERSTAND THE INFORMATION 

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TECHNOLOGY COST IS ALLOCATED 

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AMONG ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

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IN OTHER WORDS THE CITY COUNCIL 

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SHOULD NOT SOLELY SHOULDER THE 

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COST FOR INFORMATION 

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TECHNOLOGY.

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BUT GIVEN THAT ASSUMPTION AND 

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GIVEN THAT JUST A VERY SMALL 

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PORTION OF THE BUDGET, LESS THAN 

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$1 MILLION OF THE BUDGET, WE 

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EVEN HAVE TO BURDEN THE INCREASE 

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OF 28,000 OF INCREASE ON THE 

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INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY COST 

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WHICH IS ON PAGE 148, TOP OF THE 

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PAGE, IF YOU HAVE THE SAME 

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BINDER.

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AS A THE ONE IN FRONT OF ME, 

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PAGE 138, AND THEN I WOULD 

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IMAGINE THAT FOR THE WHOLE CITY 

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GOVERNMENT THE INCREASE OF

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 THE 

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INCREASE OF INFORMATION 

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TECHNOLOGY COST WOULD BE 

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MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS, THAT'S 

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JUST MY ASSUMPTION.

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AND I WONDER WHY.

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BECAUSE THIS INCREASE HASN'T 

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BEEN SEEN IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S 

[Captioner] 20:35:32
BUDGET.

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AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, FOR THIS 

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YEAR, THERE'S THIS INCREASE.

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>> David Persselin:   BECAUSE 

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THAT IS PROBABLY A MORE 

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COMPLICATED QUESTION.

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I THINK I'M GOING TO GET BACK TO 

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YOU AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL 

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ON THAT LATER.

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RATHER THAN TRYING TO TALK MY 

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WAY THROUGH IT TONIGHT.

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>> Vice Mayor Shao:   THANK YOU 

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VERY MUCH.

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YES LIKE I SAID I APOLOGIZE IN 

[Captioner] 20:36:01
ADVANCE.

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I SHOULD HAVE SENT YOU THE 

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INFORMATION BEFORE THE MEETING.

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OTHERWISE I SHOULDN'T EXPECT AN 

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ANSWER DURING THE MEETING, SORT 

[Captioner] 20:36:10
OF LIKE TAKING YOU BY SURPRISE.

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SO ANY FOAL-UP INFORMATION WOULD 

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BE WELCOME.

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OKAY.

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SO THIS IS ONE PART, THE SECOND 

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PART IS FOR THE ECONOMIC 

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DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND 

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LIKEWISE, IN THE SAME FOLDER, IF 

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YOU TURN TO PAGE 166, 166

[Captioner] 20:36:36
 AND 

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OVERALL, THERE IS 15% INCREASE 

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OF THE BUDGET FOR THAT 

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DEPARTMENT.

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WHAT IS CONCERNS ME IS SALARY 

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AND BENEFIT BY 144

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, THAT 

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DEPARTMENT HAS ONLY THE FTE OF 

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FIVE PEOPLE AND IF YOU DO THE 

[Captioner] 20:37:03
MATH THE INCREASE OF SALARY AND 

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BENEFITS FOR EACH FTE WOULD BE 

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OVER $26,000.

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AND MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT WE 

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ONLY GIVE 4% OF ANNUAL INCREASE 

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FOR SALARY AND BENEFIT.

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SO IN SUDDENLY WOULD BE -- SO 

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THIS SUDDENLY WOULD BE AN AN 

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NORMAL NUMBER AND I JUST WONDER 

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WHY BECAUSE 15% VERSUS 4% IS A 

[Captioner] 20:37:32
HUGE DIFFERENCE.

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>> David Persselin:   I HAD THAT 

[Captioner] 20:37:34
SAME QUESTION WHEN I SAW THAT 

[Captioner] 20:37:35
TABLE.

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SO I DID SOME RESEARCH.

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IT TURNS OUT THAT WE HAD 

[Captioner] 20:37:41
VACANCIES, IN THE ECONOMIC 

[Captioner] 20:37:46
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, WHEN

[Captioner] 20:37:46
 WE 

[Captioner] 20:37:48
DID THE BUDGET LAST YEAR AND WE 

[Captioner] 20:37:50
BUDGETED THOSE VACANCIES AT THE 

[Captioner] 20:37:53
LOW END OF PAY FOR THOSE 

[Captioner] 20:37:53
CLASSIFICATIONS.

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WE HIRED HIGHLY QUALIFIED PEOPLE 

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AND WOUND UP BRING BRINGING THEM 

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IN AT HIGHER LEVEL PAY THAN WHAT 

[Captioner] 20:38:04
WE HAD ORIGINALLY BUDGETED.

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AND THEN SECONDLY, WE'LL HAD 

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SOMEBODY WHO WAS IN THERE WHO 

[Captioner] 20:38:11
ALSO GOT A STEP INCREASE DURING 

[Captioner] 20:38:13
THE YEAR.

[Captioner] 20:38:15
SO WHEN I WON'T BACK AND LOOKED 

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I COULD SEE THAT OKAY, WE 

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BUDGETED REALLY LOW, AND WE 

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WOUND UP HIRING PEOPLE THAT COST 

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MORE.

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THAT'S REALLY WHAT WAS GOING ON 

[Captioner] 20:38:24
THERE.

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>> Vice Mayor Shao:   OKAY, 

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THANK YOU.

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THAT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU 

[Captioner] 20:38:28
ARE PREPARED FOR THIS ANSWER.

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I JUST HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, 

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OTHER DEPARTMENTS DON'T, YOU 

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KNOW, HAVE THE SAME PRACTICE, SO 

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THAT, YOU KNOW, OVERALL OUR 

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LABOR COST WILL BE MORE THAN 

[Captioner] 20:38:42
BUDGETED.

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ONE DEPARTMENT PROBABLY IS JUST, 

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YOU KNOW, A --

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>> ANOMALY.

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>> Vice Mayor Shao:   ANOMALY, 

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YES.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

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>> Mayor Mei:   THANK YOU.

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NEXT I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER KENG 

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AND WE ALSO HAVE COUNCILMEMBER 

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KASSAN I THINK STILL.

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SO COUNCILMEMBER KENG AND THEN 

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WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK.

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AND WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD TOO.

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>> Councilmember Keng:   THANK 

[Captioner] 20:39:10
YOU MADAM MAYOR AND THANK YOU TO 

[Captioner] 20:39:13
THE DIRECTOR PERSSELIN FOR YOUR 

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REPORT.

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I'M GRATEFUL AND FORTUNATE THAT 

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WE'RE, WITH THE STAFF'S 

[Captioner] 20:39:22
DILIGENCE AND OUR PAST POLICIES 

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OF MAINTAINING THE RESERVES 

[Captioner] 20:39:29
WOULD RIGHT STORMS LIKE THIS AND 

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I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU SEE ANY 

[Captioner] 20:39:33
OPPORTUNITY IN THE COMING YEAR 

[Captioner] 20:39:35
THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO 

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REPLENISH THE RESERVES, AND IF 

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SO, WHAT WOULD BE OUR STRATEGY 

[Captioner] 20:39:41
IN DOING THAT?

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>> David Persselin:   SO AS I 

[Captioner] 20:39:45
MENTIONED, PROBABLY THE FIRST 

[Captioner] 20:39:46
OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT WOULD BE 

[Captioner] 20:39:48
AS PART OF THE YEAR END REPORT 

[Captioner] 20:39:50
IN THE FALL.

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AT THAT TIME, WE WILL HAVE 

[Captioner] 20:39:54
CLOSED THE BOOKS ON FISCAL YEAR 

[Captioner] 20:39:56
23-24.

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AND WE'LL KNOW HOW MUCH ENDING 

[Captioner] 20:40:00
UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE WE WOUND 

[Captioner] 20:40:01
UP WITH.

[Captioner] 20:40:04
AND RIGHT NOW IN THE PROPOSED 

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BUDGET WE'RE ASSUMING ZERO.

[Captioner] 20:40:08
WE'RE ASSUMING THAT WE'RE GOING 

[Captioner] 20:40:13
TO BE DRAWING DOWN THE BUDGET UN

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UNSOARNT RESERVE AND WE'LL HAVE 

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NO ENDING FUND BALANCE.

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IT IS POSSIBLE, I'M NOT 

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SUGGESTING THAT WE WILL BUT IT 

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IS POSSIBLE THAT WE WILL HAVE 

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MORE REVENUE OR MORE EXPENDITURE 

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SAVINGS THAN WE ARE CURRENTLY 

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ANTICIPATING.

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SO IT'S POSSIBLE WE MIGHT HAVE 

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SOME UNRESERVED FUND BALANCE AS 

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PART OF THE YEAR END REPORT.

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SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE 

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FIRST OPPORTUNITY IF WE WANTED 

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TO AUGMENT THE BUDGET

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UNCERTAINTY ROARVE.

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WE'LL BE COMING BACK IN MARCH OF 

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NEXT YEAR WITH THE MID YEAR 

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REPORT AND AT THAT TIME IF IT 

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TURNS IDENTITY THAT REVENUES ARE 

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OUTPACING OUR -- TURNS OUT THAT 

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REVENUES ARE OUTPACING OUR 

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PROJECTIONS THAT WILL BE OUR 

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SECOND OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE 

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WILL HAVE A GOOD ZONES AT THAT 

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TIME OF WHETHER WE REALLY HAVE 

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MORE MONEY THAT WE COULD USE FOR 

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THAT PURPOSE.

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SO THOSE WOULD BE THE TWO MAIN 

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OPPORTUNITIES DURING THE NEXT 

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FISCAL YEAR, TO INCREASE 

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RESERVES AGAIN.

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>> Councilmember Keng:   GREAT, 

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> Mayor Mei:   COUNCILMEMBER 

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KASSAN AND THEN WE HAVE A 

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SPEAKER CARD.

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>> Councilmember Kassan:   BASED 

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ON MY QUESTIONS EARL YORE, 

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REGARDING THE ORIGINAL ADOPTED 

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BUDGET AND THE ESTIMATED BUDGET 

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IT CAUSED ME TO LOOK BACK AND 

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THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WAS 

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REPORTED ON MARCH 5th AND WHAT 

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WAS REPORTED ON MAY 15th, ON

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MARCH 4th IT LOOKS LIKE THE 

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DIFFERENCE WAS 46 MILLION BUT 

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THE CHANGE I'M SEEING TO THE 

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ESTIMATE, IT WENT FROM $239

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.3 IN 

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REVENUES TO 289.3 IN REVENUES SO

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AN ADDITIONAL ABOUT 9 MILLION.

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SO WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN MARCH 

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5th AND MAY 14th, TODAY, 

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THAT CAUSED THE ADJUSTED BUDGET 

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TO INCREASE BY $9 MILLION?

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AND THEN ALSO, WHEN I ASK WHAT 

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THE DIFFERENCE WAS, YOU SAID THE 

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DIFFERENCE WAS $20 MILLION BUT 

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IT'S REALLY LOOK LIKE IT'S ABOUT 

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$30 MILLION BETWEEN THE ADOPTED 

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BUDGET AND THE ESTIMATE.

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>> David Persselin: WELL I JUST 

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WANTED TO CLARIFY.

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WHEN YOU MENTIONS EARLIER YOU 

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MENTIONED 2 YOUR SOMETHING 

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MILLION DOLLARS AND I SAID THE 

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ACTUAL FOR THIS YEAR IS PROJECT 

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OWED AT 260.

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WHILE WE WERE SPEAKING I 

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ACTUALLY WON'T BACK TO THE 

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HISTORICAL SECTION OF THE BUDGET 

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AND LOOKED.

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AND IT WAS ACTUALLY $30 

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MILLION.

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SO THE ADOPTED BUDGET WAS $291 

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MILLION IN RESOURCES AND WE'RE 

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LOOKING AT ABOUT $261 MILLION.

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SO I THINK IT'S ABOUT A $30 

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MILLION DIFFERENCE TODAY.

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AND THE DIFFERENCE IS REALLY 

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JUST INFORMATION.

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SO AS I TYPICALLY SAY, AS PART 

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OF THE MID YEAR REPORT, WE'RE 

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RECEIVING NEW INFORMATION ALL 

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THE TIME.

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AND PARTICULARLY NEW INFORMATION 

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ABOUT SALES TAX REVENUE, NEW 

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INFORMATION ABOUT PROPERTY TAX 

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REVENUE, AND ONE OF THE BIG 

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SWINGS IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE 

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IS THAT WE GET INFORMATION ABOUT 

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SUPPLEMENTAL PROPERTY TAX.

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SO AS I THINK YOU KNOW, THE 

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SECURED PROPERTY TAX IS BASED ON 

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THE ASSESSMENT ROLL THAT'S 

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DELIVERED IN JULY OF EACH YEAR.

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AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, 

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ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE HAVE A 

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PRETTY GOOD SENSE OF WHAT OUR 

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SECURED PROPERTY TAX REVENUE IS 

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GOING TO BE.

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BUT SUPPLEMENTAL PROPERTY TAX IS 

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BASED ON ACTUAL SALES OF 

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PROPERTY.

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AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND 

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OF CLARITY.

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AND THE INFORMATION COMES IN 

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MORE SPORADICALLY DURING THE 

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YEAR.

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SO AS WE GET NEW INFORMATION 

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ABOUT SUPPLEMENTAL SALES TAX 

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THAT WILL CAUSE US TO CHANGE OUR 

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PROPERTY TAX ESTIMATE.

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SO SALES TAX FORECAST COMING IN 

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AND PROPERTY TAX INFORMATION 

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COMING IN AND THEN SOME OF OUR 

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OTHER REVENUE STREAMS LIKE HOTEL 

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TAX OR BUSINESS TAX, WE GET MORE 

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FREQUENTLY AND SO, YOU KNOW, 

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WE'RE DOING THE MARCH 

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PRESENTATION BASED ON 

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INFORMATION THAT WE'VE RECEIVED 

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BASICALLY THROUGH FEBRUARY.

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BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FINALIZE THE 

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REPORT AND DELIVER IT TO COUNCIL 

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IN A TIMELY MEAN.

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SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING 

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ABOUT IS INFORMATION THROUGH 

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FEBRUARY AND WHAT WE'RE 

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REPORTING THROUGH TODAY IS 

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INFORMATION THROUGH THE 

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BEGINNING OF MAY.

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SO IT'S ACTUALLY A SIGNIFICANT 

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DIFFERENCE IN TOARMTS OF WHAT WE 

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KNOW -- TERMS OF WHAT WE FLO NOW 

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VERSUS WHAT WE KNEW KNOWN.

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>> Councilmember Kassan:   THAT 

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IS AN ADDITIONAL $9 MILL, GOING 

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THIS IN THAT DIRECTION.

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WHAT TIME OF YEAR, I KNOW I 

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SHOULD KNOW THIS BUT REMIND ME, 

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WHAT TIME OF YEAR CAN WE STOP 

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MOVING THE NUMBERS AROUND AND 

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SAY THIS IS WHAT IT ACTUALLY 

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WAS?

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>> David Persselin:   WHEN WE 

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CLOSE THE BOOKS TYPICALLY IN 

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OCTOBER, THAT'S WHEN THE NUMBERS 

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STOP.

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WE DON'T RECEIVE OUR LAST 

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QUARTER OF SALES TAX REVENUE 

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UNTIL THE END OF AUGUST.

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SO THAT'S TYPICALLY THE LAST BIG 

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CHUNK THAT WE'LL SEE.

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BUT BECAUSE WE RECEIVE REVENUE 

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IN ARREARS SOMETIMES TWO MONTHS 

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IN ARREARS, THAT MEANS THAT 

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REVENUE THAT WE'LL BE REPORTING 

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FOR JUNE WE DON'T RECEIVE UNTIL 

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THE END OF AUGUST, AND SO IT 

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DOESN'T REALLY FACTOR INTO OUR 

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REPORTING UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

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AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER WE HAVE TO 

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REVIEW EVERYTHING TO MAKE SURE 

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THINGS ARE PROPERLY CLASSIFIED, 

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THAT WE HAVEN'T INADVERTENTLY

[Captioner] 20:46:04
 

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MISCATEGORIZED SOMETHING WHICH 

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SOMETIMES HAPPENS.

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SO REALLY, OCTOBER WHEN THE 

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NUMBERS STOP MOVING.

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BUT UNTIL THEN THE NUMBERS WILL 

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ABSOLUTELY MOVE.

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>> Councilmember Kassan:   OKAY, 

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GREAT, THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Mei:   THANK YOU.

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MAY I CALL THE SPEAKER, PLEASE?

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>> The Clerk:   KELLY ABREU.

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>> YES, SO THE CITY WANTS YOU TO 

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THINK THAT WE'RE LOOKING, YOU 

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KNOW DOING COMPLICATED THINGS TO 

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FORECAST EXPENDITURES.

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IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE 

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EXPENDITURE FORECAST OVER TEN 

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YEARS WHICH I HAVE AND LOOKED AT 

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ALL THE EXPECT FORECAST, THEY 

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ALWAYS USED TO GO UP FROM WHERE 

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YOU WORE BEFORE SO YOU WOULD 

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ALWAYS SEE STEADY INCREASE.

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IF YOU LOOK AT THE MIDDLE OF 

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JUNE OF 2022, SAND COMPARE IT TO 

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LAST YEAR, WOULD YOU BE GOING 

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FROM 212 MILLION IN 

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EXPENDITURES, LAST YEAR, 2022, 

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TWO YEARS AGO, TO $260 MILLION 

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IN 2023 TO AROUND $255 RIGHT

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MILLION RIGHT NOW AND NEXT YEAR 

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THEY'LL H THEY'RE FORECASTING 

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260.

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WE'RE GOING FROM A LOW LEVEL TO 

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25% HIGHER.

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IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THESE 

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DEPARTMENTS YOU ARE SPENDING ON, 

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YOU DON'T COMPARE IT TO LAST 

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YEAR, TWO YEARS AGO, YOU SEE A 

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20% INCREASE IN MANY OF THESE 

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DEPARTMENTS IN THE LAST TWO 

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YEARS.

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YOUR REVENUES, YOUR EXPENDITURES 

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HAVE SOARED.

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NOW LET'S LOOK AT HOW THE CITY'S 

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MESSAGE HERE, THE PR MESSAGE IS, 

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WE ONLY HAVE ONE YEAR, TEMPORARY 

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DEFICIT, NOT A STRUCTURAL 

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DEFICIT, AND IT'S ONLY ONE YEAR, 

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YOU KNOW TEMPORARY.

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SO IF YOU LOOK IN 23 IT WAS 2

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97 

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MILLION COMING IN AND 313 GOING 

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OUT, $16 BILLION DEFICIT.

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24.

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264 GOING IN, 2

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74 GOING OUT, 

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NEXT YEAR, 15 MILLION DEFICIT.

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THREE YEARS IN A ROW, LAST YEAR 

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16, THIS YEAR 10, NEXT YEAR 15.

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OF DEFICIT.

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BUT THEY ONLY WARRANT YOU TO 

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THINK ABOUT THE DEFICIT HAD A 

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WE'RE DOING NOW.

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DON'T THINK ABOUT LAST YEAR'S 

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DEFICIT, DON'T THINK ABOUT NEXT 

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YEAR'S DEFICIT, DON'T THINK 

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ABOUT THAT, IT'S JUST NOW, A 

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TRANSITIONARY PHASE, IT'S A 

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BUDDHIST TYPE THING, BUDDHIST 

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TYPE FORECASTING.

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THE CITY HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE 

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CAUSE OF THE SALES TAX REVENUE.

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THAT'S THE OTHER MESSAGE HERE.

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THE STATE, ALL WITH THE STATE, 

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DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE SALES TAX 

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INFORMATION BUT LATER IT TURNED 

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OUT WE DID ALL ALONG.

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SO WE HAVE THE AUDITORS GOING 

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OUT LOOKING AT BUSINESS TAX 

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REVENUES.

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WE'RE AUDITING LIKE CRAZY BUT 

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SOMEHOW STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THE 

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WHEREWITHAL TO THINK, WELL, WHY 

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DON'T WE SOAND THE AUDITORS TO 

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LOOK AT OUR SALES TAX 

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INFORMATION AND HAVE THEM FIND 

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OUT WHAT HAPPENED AND HELP THEM 

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STOP IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN.

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WE HAVE A HANDS OFF POLICY WE 

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DON'T WANT TO TAKE 

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RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR ROLE IN 

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IGNORING WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND 

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GRABBING THE MONEY WHILE IT WAS 

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COMING AND NOT ASKING 

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QUESTIONS.

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WE DON'T WANT TO PROACTIVE OR 

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PREVENT IT.

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>> Mayor Mei:   THANK YOU.

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AND WE ARE DUE FOR A BREAK BUT 

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THIS IS RADIO REPORTER-OUT SO 

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THIS IS -- IT IS COMING BACK TO 

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US ON JUNE 4th AND ALSO JUNE 

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11th.

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SO ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL 

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QUESTIONS?

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I THINK WE'VE CERTAINLY ASKED 

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SOME FOR TODAY.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN.

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>> Councilmember Salwan:   YES, 

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WONDER IF YOU COULD ADDRESS HIS 

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COMMENTS.

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>> David Persselin:   I DON'T 

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REALLY KNOW WHERE MR. ABREU IS 

[Captioner] 20:50:06
COMING FROM EXACTLY.

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SO I REALLY CAN'T TALK TO WHAT 

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HE'S SAYING.

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I THINK HE HAS A NARRATIVE, AND

[Captioner] 20:50:15
 

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I CAN'T -- I CAN'T REALLY -- I 

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JUST CAN'T SAY MUCH ABOUT IT.

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I MEAN WHAT WE HAVE IN THE 

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BUDGET DOCUMENT AS I'VE SAID IS 

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BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE 

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RECEIVE AND OUR, YOU KNOW, AND 

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ALL OF THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE 

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HAVE.

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I WOULD NOTE THAT SALES TAX 

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REVENUE IS COLLECTED BY THE 

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STATE.

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THE STATE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 

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AUDITING SALES TAX REVENUE.

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THE CITY HAS A VOTER APPROVED 

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BUSINESS TAX AND A VOTER 

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APPROVED HOTEL TAX.

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MY STAFF ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 

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AUDITING HOTEL TAX AND BUSINESS 

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TAX.

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BECAUSE THOSE ARE CITY TAXES.

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WE ARE NEITHER RESPONSIBLE NOR 

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IN A POSITION TO AUDIT

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 SALES TAX.

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>> Councilmember Salwan:   

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OKAY.

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88th.

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ARE WE -- COMMENTS OR --

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>> Mayor Mei:   I THINK WE 

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EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO -- OUR

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STENO CAPTIONER --

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>> The Clerk:   OUR STENO 

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CAPTIONER HAS DROPPED OFF AND 

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ANOTHER ONE HAS COME ON.

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>> Mayor Mei:   OKAY, I JUST 

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WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

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>> The Clerk:   IF YOU WOULD 

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LIKE TO WRAP UP.

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>> Mayor Mei:   I WOULD LIKE TO 

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WRAP UP AT THIS POINT.

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THIS IS GOING TO BE COMING 

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BACK.

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I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND 

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THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE HAD.

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I ALSO WANTED TO CLAIFERS VERY 

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QUICKLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T SPEAK 

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YET.

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I APPRECIATE THE REPORTS, I NOE 

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SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE 

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COME FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WE 

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RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT ON, FOR 

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EXAMPLE QUIET ZONES AND 

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INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY ARE 

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CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, I 

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WANT OWED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE 

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UNDERSTOOD.

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IT'S NOT THAT WE DIDN'T HEAR 

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THEM.

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WE ALSO TAKE NOTE SOME OF THE 

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COMMENTS AND OBJECTIVES THAT THE 

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COUNCIL TALKED ABOUT AT THE 

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RETREAT AS PRIORITIZATIONS AND 

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SOCIAL WE'LL HAVE ON STAFF FOR 

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THAT EVENING, PEOPLE FROM THE 

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DIFFERENT AREAS.

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SUCH AS OUR PD AND FIRE I THINK 

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TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

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BECAUSE IN CASE WE HAVE MORE 

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PUBLIC QUESTIONS.

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IDEALLY IF THERE IS ANY COMMENTS 

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FROM THE PUBLIC OR FROM THE 

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COUNCIL FEEL FREE TO SEND IT TO 

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DIRECTOR PERSSELIN IN ADVANCE 

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AND ALSO TO ALL OF US SO THAT WE 

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CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE 

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GREATER INSIGHT.

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BECAUSE I THINK THAT HELPS US TO 

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BE BETTER PREPARED.

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THAT BEING SAID, ARE THERE ANY 

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OTHER -- THANK YOU, WE'LL BE 

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SEEING YOU AGAIN VERY SOON AT 

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THE NEXT MEETINGS.

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BUT ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS 

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AT THIS POINT, THAT WAS OUR LAST 

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AGENDA, REPORTS ON COMMITTEE 

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ASSIGNMENTS.

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>> Councilmember Salwan:   I 

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JUST WANTED TO THANK 

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MR. PERSSELIN, IT WAS A DETAILED 

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DIVE AT THIS TIME, AND I 

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APPRECIATE ALL THE COLTS AND 

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FEEDBACK.

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FOR OUR CITY MANAGEMENT, IF 

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THERE IS A WAY TO PUT OUR PRESS 

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RELEASE ABOUT THIS SALES TAX 

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ISSUE, A LOT OF MISINFORMATION 

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AND IT IS GOOD FOR US TO PUT IT 

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OUT THERE SO PEOPLE KNOW HOW THE 

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ISSUE IS HOW IT'S IMPACTING US 

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AND HOW OUR BUDGET IS GOING 

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FORWARD, I THINK THAT WOULD BE 

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VERY HELPFUL.

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>> Councilmember Campbell:   

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MAYOR MEI, I LIKE THE PRESS 

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RELEASE IDEA AND I'M STILL 

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INTERESTED IN SOME TYPE OF 

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COMMUNITY ADVISORY CITY MANAGER

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, 

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BUDGET, CONVERSATION SO THAT THE 

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PUBLIC IS AWARE OF HOW THE 

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PROCESS WORKS.

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WHETHER WE DO IT, HOW THEY CAN 

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PUT IN THEIR COMMENTS WOULD 

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BE -- WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

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I KNOW WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME 

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SOCIAL MEDIA, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE 

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TO COME IN AND TALK TO US ABOUT 

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THE BUDGET AND GIVING US IDEAS 

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OM WHAT THEY THINK WE -- ON WHAT 

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THEY THINK IT -- IT IS A 

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PRIORITY FOR THE CITY AS WELL.

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IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD IF WE HAD 

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MORE PUBLIC INPUT.

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>> Karena Shackelford:  , THAT 

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DEFINITELY IS HAPPENING.

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WE HAVE OUTPUT FROM OUR VARIOUS 

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MEDIA OUTLETS, THE SOCIAL MEDIA 

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OUTLETS, OUR FREMONT CONNECT, AS 

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A MATTER OF FACT AS 

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COUNCILMEMBER CAMPBELL'S 

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UPCOMING TOWN HALL MEETING WE'LL 

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BE HAVING A BUDGET DISCUSSION 

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THERE AS WELL.

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JUST TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND 

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WHAT THE DATES ARE, HOW THE 

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BUDGET IS DEVELOPED.

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NOT A SUPERDEEP DIVE BUT AS YOU 

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JUST STATED, HELPING PEOPLE 

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UNDERSTAND HOW THE BUDGET IS 

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DEVELOPED AND WE WILL CONTINUE 

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TO DO EVEN MORE OUTREACH ALONG 

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THOSE LINES.

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I DON'T WANT TO SET ANY FALSE 

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EXPECTATIONS, IN TERMS OF WHAT 

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WE CAN ADD TO THE BUDGET OR WHAT 

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MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET, 

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BUT, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY 

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AGREE THAT THE MORE PEOPLE 

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UNDERSTAND HOW THE BUDGET IS 

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DEVELOPED, THE MORE FOARGD 

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THEY'LL BE AND THE MORE -- 

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INFORMED THEY'LL BE AND MAYBE 

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THEY'LL COME OUT AND BE 

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PARTICIPANTS IN THOSE TYPES OF 

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DISCUSSIONS.

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THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE AND 

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WE'RE DEFINITELY TRYING TO 

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ENCOURAGE MORE PARTICIPATION.

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>> Mayor Mei:   IT SOUNDS LIKE 

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WHAT BEING COUNCILMEMBER 

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CAMPBELL HAS ASKED ABOUT IS SOME 

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CITIES HAVE PARTICIPANT PA TRI, 

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THERE THE GROUND UP.

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BUT WE ARE VERY RIRKT OWED AND 

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YOU CAN SEE BY LOOKING AT THE 

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FORECAST BY THE HEAD COUNTS IN 

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THE OTHER AREAS WE'RE NOT 

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EXPANDING OTHER THAN SOME OF THE 

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AREAS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS 

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ALREADY GIVEN DIRECT GUIDANCE 

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TO.

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BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT 

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BECAUSE FAR TOO OFTEN WE DON'T 

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HAVE PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR THE 

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BUDGET DISCUSSIONS AT OUR TOWN 

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HALLS AND WE HAVE THREE MEETINGS 

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FOR THE BUDGET AND IT'S NOT 

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UNTIL AFTER THEY SEE THE BUDGET 

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THEY'RE ASKING WHY IS IT THAT 

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THIS ISN'T HAPPENING.

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SO WE WOULD LOVE FOR PEOPLE I 

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EVEN SAID THAT DO, I TALKED TO 

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TWO GROUPS OF STUDENTS, THAT 

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THERE IS TO INCLUDE WHETHER IT 

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IS STUDENTS THAT ARE IN THE HIGH 

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SCHOOLS OR EEN OUR PARENTS AND 

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COMMUNITY MEMBERS, I THINK THIS 

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IS WHERE I KNOW SOME OF YOU ON 

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THE COUNCIL ALSO SIT ON ROTARY, 

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SIT ON OTHER CLUBS OR OTHER 

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COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS, 

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PLEASE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO COME 

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OUT AND SPEAK ON THIS.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN DID YOU 

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HAVE ANOTHER THING?

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I SAW YOU PUSH THE BUTTON.

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>> Councilmember Salwan:   THIS 

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IS MY 10th YEAR ON THE COUNCIL 

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HERE.

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>> Councilmember Campbell:   MIC 

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ALERT.

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>> Councilmember Salwan:   I WAS 

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GOING TO SAY THIS IS MY 10th 

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YEAR ON COUNCIL AND OVER YEAR WE 

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INVITE FOLKS TO COME TO BUDGET 

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PRESENTATIONS, WE TRY TO DO 

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EVERYTHING AND WE ONLY GET A 

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HANDFUL OF FOLKS.

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I WISH THERE WOULD BE MORE 

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PASSION ABOUT THIS BUT I GUESS 

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MOST FOLKS WOULD RATHER WATCH IT 

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AT HOME OR TALK ABOUT IT AFTER 

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THE FACT.

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I APPRECIATE ALL EFFORTS WE ARE 

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DOING BUT LET'S KEEP PUTTING IT 

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OUT THERE TO KEEP PEOPLE 

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INVOLVED IN THE DECISION 

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MAKING.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Karena Shackelford:   ONE 

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LAST THING I PROMISE.

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WHILE WHEER ON THIS TOPIC OF 

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MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT I WANT 

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TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PUT 

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A PLUG IN FOR THE UPCOMING MY 

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FREMONT SURVEY.

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WHICH WILL AGAIN GIVE THE 

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COMMUNITY YET ANOTHER 

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OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT 

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INTO THE BUDGET PREPARATION 

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PROCESS.

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SO STAY TUNED FOR THAT.

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>> Mayor Mei:   THANK YOU.

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AND SO HOPEFULLY WE ALSO HEAR 

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FROM SOME OF THE OTHER EFFORTS 

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THAT YOU KNOW I KNOW THAT WE'VE 

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ALL BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO 

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SECURE ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

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THAT'S PART OF WHY I WENT OUT TO 

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D.C. IS TO FOCUS ON FOR 

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SPECIFICALLY FOR HOMELESSNESS 

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AND HOUSING SK TASK FORCE FOR 

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ADDITIONAL VOUCHERS FOR THAT AND 

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ALSO TO FOCUS ON VETERAN 

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VOUCHERS.

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SO WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT 

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THOSE TWO WORDS TOGETHER, IN 

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TERMS OF HOMELESS AND VETERANS.

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>> Councilmember Campbell:   AND 

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MORE BIDS, I WENT TO THE COUNTY 

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DISTRICT 1 HAD A BUDGET 

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WORKSHOP.

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IT WAS JUST AN OVERVIEW, SIMILAR 

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TO JUST WHAT WE'RE TALKING 

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ABOUT, HOW THE BUDGET IS 

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DEVELOPED, WHAT GOES INTO THE 

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BUDGET, WHEN IT HAPPENS, ALL 

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THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

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IT WAS REALLY WELL DONE, WITH

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SUPERVISOR HALBURT'S OFFICE, 

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SUSAN MARINICI'S OFFICE WAS 

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THERE AND SOME OF HIS 

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DEPARTMENTS WAS THERE.

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THEY DID A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW 

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OF THE BUDGET PROCESS BUT I 

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THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DID 

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COME OUT OF THERE WAS THE FACT 

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ABOUT HOMELESSNESS AND 

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TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.

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AND OVERNIGHT BEDS AND OUR 

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INABILITY TO HAVE THOSE IN 

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FREMONT, TO HELP OUR UNHOUSED 

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COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

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SO I THINK THE MORE 

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CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE WITH OUR 

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COUNTY AND STATE PARTNERS, WE 

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SHOULD BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY GET 

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MORE FUNDING AROUND OUR 

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UNSHELTERED POPULATION AND 

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COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

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>> Mayor Mei:   WELL AS A TEASER 

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I GOES THERE WILL BE SOME 

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PROJECTS THAT WILL BE COMING 

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BEFORE US I KNOW SPECIFICALLY 

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LOOKED AT THAT, NOTICE OF SINGS 

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IT IS NOT AGENDIZED, WE ARE 

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USING VOUCHERS TO MAKE THAT 

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HAPPEN.

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SO WITH THAT I THANK YOU ALL FOR 

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THE REPORTS AND I THANK OUR 

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STENO CAPTIONER FOR STAYING ON 

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AND AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO 

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ADJOURN THE MEETING.

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THANK YOU.