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READING OF ORDINANCES AND SHE 

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WANTS THEM READ IN FULL.

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THAT'S A SPEAKER CARD FOR THAT.

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>> Mayor Salwan: OKAY.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THEN A SPEAKER 

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CARD FOR 2C.

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>> Mayor Salwan: OKAY.

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SO COULD I GET A MOTION WITH 

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THOSE TWO ITEMS REMOVED?

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: MOVE TO 

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APPROVE.

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>> Mayor Salwan: OKAY.

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IS THERE A SECOND?

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>> Councilmember Liu: I'LL 

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SECOND.

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>> Mayor Salwan: IF I COULD 

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REMIND COUNCIL TO PRESS YOUR RTS 

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BUTTON SO THAT MAKES IT EASY FOR 

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EVERYBODY.

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PLEASE VOTE.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: I'M SORRY, I 

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DIDN'T WHO HEAR THE SECOND WAS.

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>> Mayor Salwan: MOVED BY VICE 

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MAYOR CAMPBELL, SECONDED BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER LIU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: MOVE CONSENT 

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WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM 2A 

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AND 2C.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: COUNCILMEMBER 

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ZHANG, COUNCILMEMBER LIU, 

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: SEVEN AYES, 

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MOTION PASSES.

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WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO 

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ITEMS REMOVED.

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OKAY.

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SO THERE'S NO CEREMONIAL ITEMS 

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TODAY.

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NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC 

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COMMUNICATIONS.

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FOR ORAL COMMUNICATION.

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ANY PERSON DESIRING TO SPEAK ON 

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A MATTER THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED 

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ON THIS AGENDA MAY DO SO UNDER 

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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS SECTION OF 

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THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS.

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COMMUNICATIONS RECEIVED VIA 

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EMAIL WILL BE PLACED ON FILE AND 

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CONSIDERED PART OF THE PUBLIC 

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RECORD.

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THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE 

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PUBLIC TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL 

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ON ANY ISSUE THAT IS NOT ON THE 

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AGENDA.

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THE COUNCIL CANNOT TAKE ANY 

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ACTION, NOR RESPOND TO ITEMS 

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THAT ARE BROUGHT UP UNDER ORAL 

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COMMUNICATION COMMENT PERIOD.

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HOWEVER, THE ITEM COULD BE 

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AGENDIZED FOR A FUTURE MEETING.

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WHEN SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF AN 

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ORGANIZATION, PLEASE STATE YOUR 

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NAME OF THE ORGANIZATION YOU ARE 

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REPRESENTING.

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A BELL WILL RING WHEN 30 SECONDS 

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REMAIN FOR YOU TO SUM UP YOUR 

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COMMENTS, AND THE BELL WILL RING 

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AGAIN WHEN TIME HAS ENDED.

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THE CITY CLERK WILL START THE 

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TIMER FOR EACH SPEAKER.

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HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE 

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TODAY?

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>> Ms. Gauthier:

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 26.

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>> Mayor Salwan: 26, OKAY.

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LET'S DO A MINUTE EACH.

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I'M SORRY, MA'AM, PLEASE.

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WE DECIDE THE TIME LIMIT FOR THE 

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SPEAKER BASED ON THE NUMBER OF 

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SPEAKERS.

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AND BASED ON THE NUMBER, I'VE 

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DETERMINED THAT ONE MINUTE IS 

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SUFFICIENT.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: I WILL CALL 

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SEVERAL SPEAKERS, IF YOU'LL COME 

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UP AND LINE UP ALONG THE WALL 

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AFTER I CALL YOUR NAME.

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THE FIRST SPEAKER IS HENRY 

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FOLLOWED BY CHUNG, JOE ROSE,

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 BENJAMIN YEE, RAJIV.

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AND CHEEDAN KUMAR PATEL.

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MR. LANG?

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>> Mayor Salwan: GO AHEAD, SIR.

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY 

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COUNCIL.

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SO THE REASON I'M HERE, I'M

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 OUTRAGED BY THIS DISGRACEFUL 

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ATTACK TO DR. CHIU.

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HIS OFFICE WAS VANDALIZED WITH

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 GRAFFITI, SO I SHOW ON THE 

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CAMERA.

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F-WORD, DR. CHIU, 4 HATING 

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HOMELESS.

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TARGETING HIM FOR REMARK HE

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 MADE -- PRIVATE RESIDENT DURING 

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LAST TUESDAY'S CITY COUNCIL.

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ON THE FREE

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 SPEECH -- DEMOCRACY.

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 -- THOSE --

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 COMPASSION -- HATE -- DR. CHIU

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 HAS --

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: UNMUTE, MR. 

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ROSE.

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>> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL 

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AND MAYOR.

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MY NAME IS JOE ROSE.

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I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR NAMI 

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ALAMEDA COUNTY SOUTH, AN 83-YEAR 

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RESIDENT OF ALAMEDA COUNTY AND 

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OVER 50 YEARS HERE IN FREMONT.

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WHEN I STARTED IN I.T., 

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INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, I WAS 

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WORKING WITH A CUSTOMER.

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I BROUGHT WHAT WAS -- I THOUGHT 

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WAS A DESIGN PROBLEM TO MY 

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MANAGER.

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HE ASKED ME, IS THIS A PROBLEM 

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OR IS THIS A SYMPTOM OF A 

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PROBLEM?

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WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, I CONSIDER 

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THE UNHOUSED BEING A PROBLEM 

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THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED AND 

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EVERYTHING THAT'S ASSOCIATED 

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WITH THE CAMPING IS JUST A 

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SYMPTOM OF THE PROBLEM.

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SO IF WE SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF 

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UNHOUSED, WE NOT ONLY SOLVE THE 

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PROBLEM OF CAMPING, WE SOLVE 

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MANY OTHER PROBLEMS IN THE 

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PROCESS.

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SO I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER 

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PUTTING MORE EFFORT IN SOLVING 

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THE UNHOUSED PROBLEM RATHER THAN 

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-- I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT RATHER 

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THAN MEANS.

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>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU 

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FOR PASSING THE HOMELESS 

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ENCAMPMENT ORDINANCE.

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WE NEED LAW AND ORDER IN OUR 

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CITY.

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IN THIS POLICY DEBATE, IT'S 

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DISTURBING THAT SOME OF THE 

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PEOPLE WHO PROFESS COMPASSION 

[Captioner] 19:12:19
AND INCLUSIVITY HAVE RESORTED TO 

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RACIST ATTACKS AGAINST 

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IMMIGRANTS.

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YOU SAW THAT PICTURE THAT VAND 

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GO AHEAD.

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>> GOOD EVENING.

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MY NAME IS RAJIV.

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I EXTENT MY HEARTFELT 

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CONGRATULATIONS TO MAYOR SALWAN 

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AND THE ENTIRE COUNCIL FOR 

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PASSING A LANDMARK ORDINANCE ON 

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HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT.

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THIS IMPORTANT MEASURE EQUIPS 

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THE CITY WITH ADDITIONAL TOOLS 

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TO ENHANCE SAFETY WHILE ALSO 

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IMPLEMENTING COMPASSIONATE 

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SOLUTION FOR REHABILITATING THE 

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UNHOUSED.

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I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND 

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COUNCILMEMBER YANG SHAO FOR 

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PRESENTING A COMPELLING 

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DATA-DRIVEN CASE FOR THIS ISSUE 

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TO IMPROVE COMMUNITY SAFETY.

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MY APPRECIATION ALSO GOES TO 

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COUNCILMEMBER TERESA KENG AND 

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LIU FOR THEIR STEADFAST 

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SUPPORT.

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A SPECIAL THANKS TO MAYOR SALWAN 

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FOR HIS OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP 

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IN ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS WITH 

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BOTH COMPASSION AND COMMITMENT 

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TO WELL-BEING OF ITS CITIZENS.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: AFTER BENJAMIN 

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YEE IS CHEETAN KUMAR PATEL,

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 GOPAUL

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 GADAM, CINDY WONG.

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>> OKAY.

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MY NAME IS BEN YEE.

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I THINK YOU ALL KNOW WHO I AM.

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FIRST OF ALL, I AM NOT A 

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SOFTWARE ENGINEER AND I AM BORN 

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HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, 

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FOURTH GENERATION.

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MY GREAT GRANDFATHER BUILT THE 

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RAILD ROAD HERE AND PEOPLE ARE 

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SAYING PRIVILEGED ASIAN.

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SO I CAN REMEMBER THAT MIGRATE 

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GRANDFATHER, WHEN HE WAS DONE 

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WITH THE RAILROADS, ONLY HAD ONE 

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OF TWO CHOICES TO LIVE EITHER IN 

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LOCK OR IN SAN FRANCISCO'S 

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CHINATOWN.

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THE OTHER THING I SEE THIS 

[Captioner] 19:14:46
PERSON IS SAYING ON REDDIT IS 

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THAT YOUR VOICE IS ONLY HEARD IF 

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YOU'RE HERE IN FREMONT MORE THAN 

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12 YEARS.

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I CAN TELL YOU, FOURTH 

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GENERATION, I'VE BEEN HERE 170 

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YEARS.

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IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN MANY OF 

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THESE HOMELESS HAVE NOT BEEN 

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HERE 20 YEARS SO THEY DON'T HAVE 

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A VOICE.

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SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE 

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OTHER SIDE, THE OPPONENTS, 

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REALIZE THIS IS BEING -- WHAT 

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YOU'RE SAYING IS CAUSING ALL OF 

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THIS ANGST AND ALL OF THIS 

[Captioner] 19:15:09
HATRED ABOUT THE ASIANS, AND YOU 

[Captioner] 19:15:11
NEED TO GET OUT THERE AND 

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PUBLICLY DENOUNCE THIS.

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SO PLEASE DO THAT.

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THANK YOU.

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>> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL 

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AND MAYOR RAJ SALWAN.

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SO I REALLY APPRECIATE

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 THE CAMPING ORDINANCE, IT IS

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 IN FAVOR OF PEOPLE'S SAFETY AND

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 ESPECIALLY IN THE CLEANNESS OF 

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THE FREMONT CITY.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: SIR, CAN YOU 

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STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, 

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PLEASE?

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>> MY NAME IS -- KUMAR PATEL.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: EVERYBODY CAN 

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COME A BIT CLOSER, LINE UP A 

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LITTLE BIT CLOSER, PLEASE?

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YOU CAN COME ON UP, SIR.

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND --

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>> Mayor Salwan: WE CAN'T HEAR 

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YOU.

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IS THE BUTTON PRESSED?

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THERE YOU GO.

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YOU'RE GOOD.

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND --

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>> Ms. Gauthier: WE'RE TRYING TO 

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RESET THIS.

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OKAY.

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GO AHEAD, SIR.

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND 

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COUNSELOR.

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>> Mayor Salwan: SPEAK INTO THE 

[Captioner] 19:16:21
MIC.

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>> MY NAME IS GOPAUL, RESIDENT 

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OF FREMONT.

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I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE 

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PASSED FOR HOMELESS ORDINANCE.

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CONCERNING THE SECURITY -- AND 

[Captioner] 19:16:36
CLEANLINESS OF THE CITY.

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I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS 

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ORDINANCE.

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THANK YOU.

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>> I'M A FREMONT RES

[Captioner] 19:17:06
 RESIDENT FOR 25 YEARS, ALSO 

[Captioner] 19:17:07
HAVE MY BUSINESS FOR THE LAST 15 

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YEARS, SOFTWARE COMPANY IN 

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FREMONT, AND I THANK YOU, MAYOR

[Captioner] 19:17:15
 SALWAN AND ALL THE COUNCIL MEMO 

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 COUNCILMEMBERS FOR PASSING THE 

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ORDINANCE.

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AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE ALSO NOT 

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STOPPING -- AND NOT 

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CRIMINALIZING THEM.

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I THINK IT'S A -- BALANCE OF THE 

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ORDINANCE, AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF 

[Captioner] 19:17:28
THIS ORDINANCE AND THANK YOU FOR 

[Captioner] 19:17:28
PASSING IT.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: AFTER CINDY 

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WONG IS --

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>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I 

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SUPPORT BANNING THE CAMPING.

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>> Mayor Salwan: MA'AM, IF YOU 

[Captioner] 19:17:47
COULD SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MIC?

[Captioner] 19:17:48
THANK YOU.

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>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I -- I

[Captioner] 19:17:56
 SAW THREE TIME FIRE CAUSED BY 

[Captioner] 19:17:57
UNHOUSED PEOPLE.

[Captioner] 19:18:01
IT'S ALSO CAUSING SO MANY DAMAGE 

[Captioner] 19:18:05
TO OUR COMMUNITY, WE FEEL

[Captioner] 19:18:07
 UNSAFE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE 

[Captioner] 19:18:08
FREMONT SAFE, CLEAN, PROSPER FOR 

[Captioner] 19:18:08
EVERYBODY.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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THE NEXT

[Captioner] 19:18:18
 SPEAKER, PLEA -- FOLLOWED BY 

[Captioner] 19:18:24
SINDARI FOLLOWED BY TIU

[Captioner] 19:18:25
 TEN.

[Captioner] 19:18:29
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME, 

[Captioner] 19:18:29
PLEASE?

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>> HI.

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THIS IS -- GOTHAM.

[Captioner] 19:18:36
IN DECEMBER 2023, MY BACKYARD 

[Captioner] 19:18:40
WAS SET ON FIRE WITH

[Captioner] 19:18:42
 ENCAMPMENT DWELLERS BEHIND MY 

[Captioner] 19:18:43
BOUNDARY WALL.

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 -- FOR ANYONE WHO IS A 

[Captioner] 19:18:47
TAX-PAYING CITIZEN OF THE CITY 

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AND WITH A 2-YEAR-OLD AT HOME.

[Captioner] 19:18:50
THE THOUGHT ALWAYS COMES THAT 

[Captioner] 19:18:54
YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD HAVE 

[Captioner] 19:18:57
HAPPENED IF THERE WAS NOT -- AND 

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MY FAMILY WAS AT HOME, IT WOULD 

[Captioner] 19:18:59
HAVE BEEN PRETTY BAD.

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I JUST WANT TO THANK ON BEHALF 

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OF MY FAMILY AND THE COMMUNITY 

[Captioner] 19:19:06
MAYOR SALWAN AND THE 

[Captioner] 19:19:07
COUNCILMEMBERS FOR APPROVING THE 

[Captioner] 19:19:08
ENCAMPMENT BAN LAST WEEK.

[Captioner] 19:19:12
I ONCE MORE FEEL THAT I CAN LIVE 

[Captioner] 19:19:13
AND WORK IN THE CITY.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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>> GOOD EVENING, MY

[Captioner] 19:19:28
 NAME IS -- I'M A SIX-YEAR

[Captioner] 19:19:28
 RESIDENT.

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THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY 

[Captioner] 19:19:31
COUNCIL FOR PASSING THIS BAN 

[Captioner] 19:19:31
SUCCESSFULLY.

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IT GIVES A MORE PEACEFUL -- THAT 

[Captioner] 19:19:37
FREMONT WILL BE MORE FEARLESS, 

[Captioner] 19:19:40
AND PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE 

[Captioner] 19:19:43
FREMONT CAN NOW SLEEP 

[Captioner] 19:19:43
PEACEFULLY.

[Captioner] 19:19:44
THIS CRITICAL STEP DEMONSTRATES 

[Captioner] 19:19:45
A COMMITMENT TO ADDRESSING THE 

[Captioner] 19:19:46
PRESSING ISSUE OF THE 

[Captioner] 19:19:48
HOMELESSNESS IN OUR COMMUNITY, 

[Captioner] 19:19:50
AND SIGNALS A PROACTIVE APPROACH 

[Captioner] 19:19:51
TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND 

[Captioner] 19:19:52
WELL-BEING OF ALL RESIDENTS.

[Captioner] 19:19:56
WE RECOGNIZE THIS BAN WILL NOT 

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ONLY PROVIDE TOOLS BUT -- 

[Captioner] 19:20:00
INITIATIVES FOR UNHOUSED 

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POPULATIONS SUCH AS HOUSING 

[Captioner] 19:20:03
ASSISTANCE, MENTAL HEALTH 

[Captioner] 19:20:05
SERVICE AND JOB TRAINING 

[Captioner] 19:20:05
PROGRAMS.

[Captioner] 19:20:07
PLEASE NOTE OTHER CALIFORNIA 

[Captioner] 19:20:11
CITYS THAT INCLUDES LONG BEACH, 

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PALM SPRING, FRESNO AND A FEW 

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MORE CITIES ALSO PASSED THIS 

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ENCAMPMENT BAN BEFORE US TO 

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PROTECT THEIR CITIES AND ENHANCE 

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THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND NOW 

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FREMONT IS JOINING THIS GROUP.

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WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTRIBUTE TO 

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THIS VITAL CAUSE AND SUPPORT 

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THIS BAN IN EVERY OTHER WAY.

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THANK YOU.

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>> HELLO.

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I'M A FREMONT RESIDENT FOR OVER 

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30 YEARS.

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THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND CITY

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 COUNCILMEMBERS FOR PASSING THE 

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ORDINANCE.

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FOR BANNING THE ENCAMPMENTS.

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ACTUALLY, THIS ORDINANCE IS 

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ABOUT RISK MITIGATION.

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THE RISK OF FIRE

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 IS ONE OBVIOUS ELEPHANT IN THE 

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ROOM.

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 THAT OVERRIDES EVERY OTHER 

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RISK.

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SO PLEASE ACCEPT MY SUPPORT FOR

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 BANNING CAMPING.

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THANK YOU.

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>> GOOD EVENING.

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MAYOR SALWAN AND 

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COUNCILMEMBERS.

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I'M SYLVIA WONG.

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I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT IN 

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FREMONT FOR 20 YEARS.

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A COUPLE YEARS AGO, DURING DAY 

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TIME AT 11:00 A.M., A INCIDENT 

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OF SEXUAL ASSAULT HAPPENED IN 

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IRVINGTON COMMUNITY PARK.

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IT WAS A BIG DEAL, THE POLICEMEN 

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AND ALSO SEVERAL COUNCILMEMBERS 

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HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN.

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SO LAST WEEK WHEN I HEARD THAT 

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YOU PASSED THIS ENCAMPMENT 

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ORDINANCE, I WAS ESPECIALLY 

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GRATEFUL AND THANK YOU FOR DOING 

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SUCH A GREAT JOB.

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I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE OTHER 

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WAYS TO HELP THE HOMELESS, AND 

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HAVING THEM TO CAMP ON A 

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NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT THE 

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RESOLUTION, SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU 

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SEE THIS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN 

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FIND OTHER WAYS TO HELP THEM.

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THANK YOU.

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>> HI, MY NAME IS RAPIN, AND 

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I'VE BEEN LIVING IN FREMONT FOR 

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THE LAST 25 YEARS.

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SO I'M HERE JUST TO SAY THANK

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 YOU, CITY COUNCIL AND FREMONT 

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CITY STAFF, FOR THE WORK THEY 

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HAVE DONE ON CAMPING ORDINANCE.

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AND -- BY NO MEANS THE JOB IS 

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DONE.

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IT'S JUST A START.

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AND THERE'S A LOT MORE TO BE 

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DONE.

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I WOULD REQUEST SPHI COUNCIL TO 

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START WORKING ON THE HOMELESS 

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RESPONSE PLAN AND PROVIDE THE 

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MONTHLY UPDATES, ALL QUARTERLY 

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UPDATES, TO THE CITY RESIDENTS.

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RECENTLY I'VE BEEN TO THE 

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ENCAMPMENT SITES IN FREMONT AND 

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I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY IN 

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CITY COUNCIL TO VISIT AT LEAST 

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ONCE.

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I'M GUARANTEEING -- FOR

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 HOMELESS PEOPLE WILL CHANGE.

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THANKS.

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY 

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COUNCIL.

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MY NAME IS KATE AHMAM.

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I'VE BEEN IN FREMONT FOR 30 

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YEARS.

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I THINK ANYONE WHO SPEAKS EITHER 

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STRONGLY OR AGAINST THE BAN 

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SHOULD ACTUALLY READ THE 7 1/2 

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PAGES OF THE ORDINANCE.

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I FEEL A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NOT 

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READ A SINGLE WORD OF THE BAN, 

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AND THINK THAT IT'S A MAGICAL 

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WAND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE ALL 

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THESE UNHOUSED PEOPLE AND THEIR 

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DEBRIS MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR.

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I DON'T SEE HOW ADDING ANOTHER 

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LAW IS GOING TO HELP, WHEN WE 

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DON'T HAVE POLICE RESOURCES TO 

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ENFORCE THE LAWS ALREADY IN 

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PLACE.

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FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE COMPLAINING 

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ABOUT KNIFE ATTACKS AND 

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INAPPROPRIATE EXPOSURE AND A 

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FIRES, THESE ARE ALREADY 

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VIOLATING LAWS WE HAVE.

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SO NOW WE HAVE THIS BAN IN PLACE 

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WHEN IT GOES INTO EFFECT, WHERE 

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WILL THOSE DISPLACED GO?

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HOW WILL THIS BE DONE WITHOUT 

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ARRESTS IN A COMPASSIONATE 

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MANNER?

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I DO NOT SEE HOW THIS IS SUCH A 

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WONDERFUL THING, AND FROM A 

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LEGAL ANALYSIS POINT OF VIEW, IT 

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IS CRIMINALIZING THE HOMELESS, 

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CRIMINALIZING THEIR POSSESSIONS, 

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AND IT'S LEGALLY MAKING PEOPLE 

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NOT BE ABLE TO HELP.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: AFTER RAJIV IS

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 SIRAJ, KEITH PARKER,

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 JENNIFER AND SALEEM

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 MASS TIN.

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>> HI, MY NAME IS RAJIV, AND 

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WE'VE BEEN IN THE HAMPTON PLACE 

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AND BORNE THE BRUNT OF A LOT OF 

[Captioner] 19:25:06
THE ISSUES THAT YOU HEARD.

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I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE AND 

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THANK THE FREMONT CITY COUNCIL 

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AND MAYOR SALWAN FOR THE 

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COURAGEOUS STEP THAT WE TOOK 

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LAST WEEK.

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OUR FIGHT IS NOT AGAINST THE 

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HOMELESS, IT'S AGAINST 

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HOMELESSNESS, RIGHT, THE 

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HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT BAN IS A 

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NECESSARY STEP IN PROTECTING 

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PUBLIC SAFETY AND DIGNITY FOR 

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EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

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HOMELESSNESS IS A COMPLEX ISSUE, 

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BUT ALLOWING ENCAMPMENTS IN 

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PUBLIC SPACES CREATES DANGEROUS 

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AND UNSANITARY CONDITIONS THAT 

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AFFECT BOTH THE INDIVIDUALS 

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LIVING IN THEM AND THE NEARBY 

[Captioner] 19:25:40
RESIDENTS.

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THIS BAN HOPEFULLY HELPS 

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REDIRECT RESOURCES TOWARDS MORE 

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EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS SUCH AS 

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PERMANENT HOUSING, MENTAL HEALTH 

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SERVICES AND ADDICTION 

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TREATMENT, ADDRESSING THE ROOT 

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CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS.

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THANK YOU.

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>> HELLO.

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MY NAME IS SURAJ.

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I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, 

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MAYOR SALWAN, FOR HELPING PASS 

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THIS ORDINANCE.

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I AM A LONG-TIME FREMONT 

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NATIVE.

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I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THE PAST 

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30-PLUS YEARS AND I DO WANT TO 

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SAY THIS BAN IS INCREDIBLY

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 NECESSARY, ESPECIALLY FOR THE 

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FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH 

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IMPACTED BY IT THE LAST FEW 

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YEARS.

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WE ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY WE 

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APPRECIATE HOW THIS IS GOING TO 

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BE HELPING US WITH SOME OF THE 

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CHALLENGES WE'VE BEEN DEALING 

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WITH, BOTH FROM A SECURITY

[Captioner] 19:26:43
 PERSPECTIVE, A HEALTH 

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PERSPECTIVE AND OVERALL JUST AN 

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OVERALL FEELING OF SAFETY.

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NOT JUST FOR US, BUT FOR FOLKS 

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WHO ARE ALSO OLDER AND SOME OF 

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THE CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY.

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SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU 

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SO MUCH FOR PASSING THIS, AND WE 

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ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING 

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WITH YOU ON SOME OF THE FURTHER 

[Captioner] 19:26:59
CHALLENGES.

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>> HELLO, EVERYONE.

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KEITH PARKER.

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I THINK YOU ALL KNOW ME.

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I WANT TO START BY THANKING ALL 

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OF YOU FOR PASSING THE BAN LAST 

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WEEK.

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THAT WAS A GOOD STEP FORWARD.

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AND YET WE ARE STILL HEARING 

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THAT THIS ENACTMENT OF THIS 

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SIMPLE CODE WILL RESULT IN 

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EVERYTHING FROM THE WHOLESALE 

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CRIMINALIZATION OF HOMELESSNESS 

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TO LARGE SCALE SWEEPS OF 

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ENCAMPMENTS.

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SOMEONE EVEN POSTED THAT IT 

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WOULD RESULT IN THE CANCELLATION 

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OF THE FESTIVAL OF THE ARTS.

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SIMPLY BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT 

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WORK THERE LIVE IN TRAILERS.

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WHICH WOULD BE HUMOROUS IF IT

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 WASN'T SO TERRIBLE.

[Captioner] 19:27:41
THE ENDLESS STREAM OF FALSE 

[Captioner] 19:27:42
INFORMATION HAS REAL WORLD 

[Captioner] 19:27:42
CONSEQUENCES.

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THE BUSINESSES OF SOME OF THOSE 

[Captioner] 19:27:46
WHO HAD THE COURAGE TO COME TO 

[Captioner] 19:27:48
LAST WEEK'S MEETING AND STAND IN 

[Captioner] 19:27:49
THE LIGHT TO VOICE THEIR OPINION 

[Captioner] 19:27:52
WERE VANDALIZED BY COWARDS WHO 

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ONLY WHEN PROTECTED BY THE DARK 

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OF NIGHT COMMITTED THEIR CRIME.

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AND NONE OF THAT WAS NECESSARY.

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THE CITY HAS BEEN CLEAR, NO ONE 

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IS BEING CRIMINALIZED FOR BEING 

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HOMELESS, NO ONE IS PREVENTED 

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FROM GIVING AID TO THE 

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HOMELESS.

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WE NEED TO FOCUS ON SOLUTIONS TO

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 HOMELESSNESS, NOT, A FALSE 

[Captioner] 19:28:10
NARRATIVE.

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THANK YOU.

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>> JENNIFER,

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 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SAVE.

[Captioner] 19:28:23
WE ARE FREMONT'S ONLY 24/7 

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DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROVIDER AND 

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WE CONTRIBUTE 24 BEDS TO 

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FREMONT'S SHELTER INVENTORY.

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IT IS CONCERNING WHAT WILL 

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HAPPEN TO UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS 

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AS A RESULT OF THIS 

[Captioner] 19:28:36
PROHIBITION.

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UNHOUSED PEOPLE INCLUDE 

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SURVIVORS OF ABUSE WHO CANNOT 

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ACCESS SHELTER, WHETHER IT'S 

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BECAUSE THE SHELTER IS FULL, OR 

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BECAUSE THEY ARE IN AN ONGOING 

[Captioner] 19:28:53
ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP IN THE 

[Captioner] 19:28:53
ENCAMPMENT.

[Captioner] 19:28:53
SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, SAVE 

[Captioner] 19:28:53
SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL TO FREMONT 

[Captioner] 19:28:54
POLICE THAT COULD HELP UNHOUSED 

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SURVIVORS BY RAPIDLY SCALING OUR 

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SHELTER CAPACITY WITHOUT EXTRA 

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COST TO THE CITY.

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WHILE IT'S NOT A LONG-TERM 

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SOLUTION, I PRESENT IT AT LEAST 

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AS A TEMPORARY FIX.

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IT IS VITAL THAT YOU ENGAGE WITH

[Captioner] 19:29:10
 PROVIDERS TO CREATE THE NEXT 

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STEPS TO REDUCE THE HARM THAT 

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WILL INEVITABLY HAPPEN TO OUR 

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UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: AFTER SALEEM IS 

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SAI, PADMA, ALISON,

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 SAMIR.

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SIR, GO AHEAD.

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>> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND 

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GENTLEMEN.

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MY CITY, WHICH I'VE LIVED HERE 

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FOR 47 YEARS, IS BEING DIVIDED.

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THE HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH HAS 

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A VERY BIG PROBLEM.

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THERE ARE TWO SIDES, ONE SIDE IS 

[Captioner] 19:29:53
SAYING ONE THING, ONE SIDE IS 

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SAYING ONE THING, AND THE ISSUE 

[Captioner] 19:29:57
IS PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO SAY.

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SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE 

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NEED TO HAVE A SOLUTION, AND THE 

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SOLUTION IS VERY, VERY SIMPLE.

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CREATE ABOUT A THOUSAND HOMES.

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I CAN DO THE THOUSAND HOMES IF 

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THE CITY WORKS WITH ME, IN TWO 

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YEARS' TIME, I CAN GIVE THE CITY 

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A THOUSAND HOMES.

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DON'T BECOME THE UNHAPPIEST 

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PLACE ON EARTH, PLEASE.

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WE NEED TO KEEP

[Captioner] 19:30:29
 LOVE AND BROTHERHOOD AMONGST 

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ALL OF US.

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THANK YOU.

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>> GOOD EVENING, SAI

[Captioner] 19:30:39
 SPEAKING IN PERSONAL CAPACITY.

[Captioner] 19:30:42
I'M SAD, FRUSTRATED, A TAD 

[Captioner] 19:30:44
AFRAID BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS BEEN 

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CORRUPTED BEYOND RECOGNITION IN 

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THIS CITY.

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WHEN AN ORGANIZATION THAT CALLED 

[Captioner] 19:30:49
ITSELF GOOD, FREMONT FOR 

[Captioner] 19:30:50
EVERYONE HAS ACTED IN A MANNER 

[Captioner] 19:30:53
THAT IS DEEPLY DISRESPECTFUL, 

[Captioner] 19:30:55
DIVISIVE, DEMEANING AND ACTUALLY 

[Captioner] 19:30:55
QUITE DESTRUCTIVE.

[Captioner] 19:30:57
WHEN SOME OF US SPOKE HERE IN 

[Captioner] 19:30:59
DECEMBER AND JANUARY IN SUPPORT 

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OF THIS ORDINANCE, GUESS WHAT 

[Captioner] 19:31:00
HAPPENED?

[Captioner] 19:31:03
WE WERE SUBJECTED TO 

[Captioner] 19:31:04
STEREOTYPING, GASLIGHTING, 

[Captioner] 19:31:06
RIDICULED, RACIAL PROFILING AND 

[Captioner] 19:31:06
EVEN INTIMIDATION.

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SO APPARENTLY ACCORDING TO THIS 

[Captioner] 19:31:12
GROUP, WE UNDOUBTEDLY CAME TO 

[Captioner] 19:31:13
THIS COUNTRY FOR HIGH PAYING 

[Captioner] 19:31:15
JOBS IN SILICON VALLEY END QUOTE 

[Captioner] 19:31:21
ALL IN SPACE OF EDUCATION, ALL 

[Captioner] 19:31:21
WE HAVE IS QUOTE MAGICAL 

[Captioner] 19:31:23
THINKING AND NO SUPPORTIVE -- 

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THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE'RE A 

[Captioner] 19:31:26
SECOND CLASS CITIZEN IN THIS 

[Captioner] 19:31:29
COUNTRY OR THIS CITY SO I ASK 

[Captioner] 19:31:29
THE CITY OF FREMONT TO CONDEMN 

[Captioner] 19:31:31
FREMONT FOR EVERYONE AND HAVE IT 

[Captioner] 19:31:31
INVESTIGATED AS A HATE GROUP.

[Captioner] 19:31:32
THANK YOU.

[Captioner] 19:31:34
LET'S BE KIND TOWARDS 

[Captioner] 19:31:34
EVERYBODY.

[Captioner] 19:31:34
THANK YOU.

[Captioner] 19:31:39
>> Mayor Salwan: NO CLAPPING, 

[Captioner] 19:31:39
PLEASE.

[Captioner] 19:31:39
THANK YOU.

[Captioner] 19:31:42
>> HI.

[Captioner] 19:31:42
I'M PAD MA.

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I'M A 26-YEAR RESIDENT OF 

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FREMONT.

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AND I'M A CITIZEN AND I VOTED 

[Captioner] 19:31:47
FOR ALL OF YOU.

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I AM SPEAKING IN MY PERSONAL 

[Captioner] 19:31:52
CAPACITY, AND I WANT TO SAY THAT 

[Captioner] 19:31:54
THE RV ORDINANCE IS REALLY 

[Captioner] 19:31:54
HELPING.

[Captioner] 19:31:56
WE ARE SEEING THAT THE AREAS 

[Captioner] 19:31:59
AROUND THE RVs ARE NOW MUCH 

[Captioner] 19:32:01
CLEANER, MAINTAINED MUCH CLEANER 

[Captioner] 19:32:02
AND SAFER AND PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO 

[Captioner] 19:32:05
WALK AROUND THEM AND NOT FEEL AS 

[Captioner] 19:32:06
INTIMIDATED AS BEFORE.

[Captioner] 19:32:08
THE SAME WAS EXPECTED WITH THE 

[Captioner] 19:32:10
CAMPING ORDINANCE THAT YOU GUYS 

[Captioner] 19:32:11
BRAVELY PASSED LAST WEEK.

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I REALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT AND 

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I AM HOPING TO SEE AN 

[Captioner] 19:32:17
IMPROVEMENT IN SAFETY FOR ALL OF 

[Captioner] 19:32:19
OUR RESIDENTS ON ACCOUNT OF 

[Captioner] 19:32:20
PASSING THIS ORDINANCE.

[Captioner] 19:32:22
NOW THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO BE 

[Captioner] 19:32:23
DONE AS EVERYBODY HAS SAID.

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I'M A STRONG PROPONENT AND 

[Captioner] 19:32:28
SUPPORTER OF SOLUTIONS TO THE 

[Captioner] 19:32:28
HOMELESS COMMUNITY.

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I'VE BEEN DOING IT FROM LONG 

[Captioner] 19:32:31
BEFORE THIS WAS POPULAR.

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SO I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH ALL OF 

[Captioner] 19:32:35
YOU TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO HAVE 

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TEMPORARY SHELTERS SO THAT 

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PEOPLE HAVE A PLACE WHILE THEY 

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FIND ACCESS TO SERVICES.

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THANK YOU.

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>> HELLO, RESPECTED MAYOR AND 

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CITY COUNCIL.

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MY NAME IS SAMIR, RESIDENT OF 

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FREMONT SINCE LAST 15 YEARS.

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I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MY SON 

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WHO IS SUFFERING FROM MENTAL 

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ILLNESS.

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WE WANT 5150 TO BE AN AGENDA 

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ITEM.

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WE ARE HERE ALL FAMILIES, WHICH 

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ARE -- WHICH WE REALLY NEED 5150

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 TO BE -- PUT UP INTO AN AGENDA 

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ITEM.

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MY SON WHO WAS -- LAST SUMMERS 

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 HE WAS BADLY IN NEED OF 

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HOSPITALIZATION BUT INSTEAD WE 

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HAD TO PUT A RESTRAINING ORDER 

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AGAINST HIM, AND LIKE YOU KNOW 

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BECAUSE OF THAT, HE'S LIKE -- 

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LUCKILY HE'S NOT HOMELESS, BUT 

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HE WOULD HAVE BEEN HOMELESS IF 

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THERE WAS NO PLACE FOR HIM TO 

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STAY.

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BUT WE WANT HIM TO GET A PROPER 

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CARE, WE WANT HIM TO BE AT HOME 

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AND GIVE HIM THAT.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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AFTER ALISON MONROE IS LILY MEI,

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 JOANN SCHWOB, SUE

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 KWONG, PEGGY RAMAAN.

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MA'AM, GO AHEAD.

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>> MY NAME IS ALISON MONROE.

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I'M WITH THE ORGANIZATION 

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FAMILIES ADVOCATING FOR THE 

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SERIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL.

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WE HAVE -- WE INCLUDE FAMILY 

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MEMBERS OF THE SERIOUSLY 

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MENTALLY ILL AND PEOPLE THAT 

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PROVIDE CARE FOR THEM.

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OUR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE VARIOUSLY 

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HOMELESS, IN JAIL, LIVING AT 

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HOME AND SOME HAVE PREMATURELY 

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PASSED ON BECAUSE OF THIS 

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ILLNESS.

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IT'S A COMPLICATED PROBLEM AS 

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YOU KNOW.

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I'M NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING YOU 

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DON'T KNOW.

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A LARGE FRACTION OF THE HOMELESS 

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ARE SERIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL.

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THEY HAVE AN ILLNESS THAT NEEDS 

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TREATMENT.

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TO BE TREATED, THEY NEED -- IN 

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OUR SYSTEM, THEY NEED TO BE 5150 

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AS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER 

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MENTIONED.

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THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY FOR THEM 

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TO ENTER INTO TREATMENT.

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MY DAUGHTER, WHO'S DEAD NOW, WAS 

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HOMELESS ALL OVER THE BAY AREA, 

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AND I TRIED TO HELP HER AS MUCH 

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AS I CAN, I BROUGHT HER FOOD, 

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WATER, MEDS, EVERYTHING ELSE I 

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COULD THINK.

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AND SHE NEEDED HELP AND PEOPLE 

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NEED HELP.

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THANK YOU.

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR SALWAN 

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AND COUNCILMEMBERS.

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I WOULD SAY FIRST TO ALL OF YOU, 

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THANK YOU FOR MAKING DECISIONS 

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THAT ARE VERY HARD AND FOR YOUR 

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SERVICE.

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AND I WOULD ASK FOR THE GRACE OF 

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THE AUDIENCE, I KNOW THAT WE 

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JUST HAD VALENTINE'S DAY, AND 

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THAT THE IDEA IS TO LOVE OUR 

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COMMUNITY, AND SO WHEN SOLUTIONS 

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ARE PASSED OR MADE, I'M ASKING 

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FOR US TO BE ABLE TO WORK 

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COMPASSIONATELY TOGETHER.

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THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET OR 

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SINGLE SOLUTION FOR ANY OF 

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THESE, AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE 

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LIVED THROUGH SOME OF THESE 

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DISCUSSIONS, WHETHER IT'S FOR 

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THE HOUSING NAVIGATION SND TER 

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AND OTHERS, I'M ASKING FOR 

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UNDERSTANDING AND WORKING 

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TOGETHER AND THAT WILL BUILD THE 

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BETTER FUTURE.

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BUT I'M ALSO HERE FOR A STARK 

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REMINDER.

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I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR 

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PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO VOTE AND 

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VOICE OUR CONCERNS, AND TOMORROW 

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IS THE 83RD 18 I TOLD HIM THAT I 

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SLIPPED AND FELL.* REOF 

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EXECUTIVE ORDER 96066 WHICH 

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CAUSED THE INTERMENT OF THE JAP 

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NEARS AND LESS THE EXCLUSION 

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ACT.

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WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LONGEVITY OR 

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THE RIGHTS TO HAVE VOICE, I ASK 

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FOR ALL OF YOU TO BE ABLE TO 

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SPEAK AND TO ENSURE OTHERS ARE 

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PROTECTED.

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ARE --

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU, 

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MADAM.

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THANK YOU.

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IF YOU HAVE ANY WRITTEN 

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COMMENTS, YOU CAN SUBMIT THEM TO 

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THE CITY CLERK AND WE CAN READ 

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THEM.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: SUE KWONG 

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FOLLOWED BY PEGGY RAMAAN, ANNIE 

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HI AND KATIE PALONE.

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>> I'M SUE

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 KWONB, RESIDENT IN FREMONT FOR 

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30 YEARS, NURSE FOR MORE THAN 20 

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YEARS.

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I TAKE CARE OF PATIENTS WHO ARE 

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HOMELESS.

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THE MOST CHALLENGE FOR THESE 

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PATIENTS, YOU DISCHARGE THEM TO 

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NOWHERE.

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ONE TIME, ONE PATIENT CRY IN 

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FRONT OF ME WHEN I DISCHARGE 

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HIM, AND THEN I SAY WHY ARE YOU 

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CRY?

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BECAUSE I HELP HIM TO GET ALL 

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THE JACKETS, ALL THE WATERS, ALL 

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THE SNACKS YOU CAN EAT, AND THEN 

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HE SAID I REMIND HIM OF HIS 

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MOTHER.

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SO I KNOW THE PEOPLE REALLY 

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HUNGERS FOR LOVE, HUNGERS FOR 

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CARE, SO WE NEED TO WORK 

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TOGETHER TO GET YOUR ANGERS AND 

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GET YOUR FRUSTRATION WORKED 

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TOGETHER AND A COMMUNITY HAS 

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HELPED THE HOMELESS MANY TIMES, 

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AND WE GET MANY -- TO HELP THE 

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HOMELESS.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: WELCOME.

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>> OKAY.

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HI, I'M PEGGY, HERE SPEAKING FOR 

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MYSELF.

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I WANT TO THANK FORMER MAYOR 

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LILY MEI FOR MAKING THAT COMMENT 

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ABOUT THE CHINESE EXCLUSION 

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ACT.

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AND THE JAPANESE INTERMENT.

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THOSE ARE BOTH VERY SERIOUS 

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ISSUES IN MY OWN FAMILY.

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AND IT HURTS MY HEART TO HEAR

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 HEAR PEOPLE SAYING

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 ANTI-ASIAN THINGS.

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BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

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YOU CAN'T GO

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 AROUND AND CALL LAWYERS -- CALL 

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THEM A TERRORIST BECAUSE THERE'S 

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ONE LITTLE PIECE IN THAT 

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RESOLUTION THAT SAYS IT'S 

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ILLEGAL TO HELP SOMEBODY THAT IS 

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HOMELESS, AND IT WAS DUMB, SO IF 

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YOU TOOK THAT OUT, WE WOULD LOOK 

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LESS STUPID TO THE REST OF THE 

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COUNTRY.

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IF WE

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 HAD ORDINANCES MORE LIKE PALM 

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SPRINGS, INSTEAD OF BEING THE 

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LEADER OF THE MOVEMENT TO 

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CRIMINALIZE HOMELESS.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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>> SHOULD I START?

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OKAY.

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>> Mayor Salwan: YES.

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>> MY NAME IS KATIE PALONE,

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 I WORK FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH 

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TRYING TO CONNECT PEOPLE WITH 

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SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS TO 

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SERVICES THAT THEY OFTEN DO NOT 

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THINK THEY NEED BECAUSE OF THE 

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ILLNESS.

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SO I'M HERE TO SUPPORT, I'M PART 

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OF THE FAMILIES TRYING TO GET 

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5150s MADE MORE AVAILABLE IN 

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FREMONT, AND WE ASK THAT THIS BE 

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AGENDIZED.

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BUT I WANT TO SAY, WE DON'T HAVE 

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THE HOUSING.

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WE NEED HOUSING.

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WE CAN'T SOLVE HOMELESSNESS 

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WITHOUT HOUSING.

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SO ANYTHING, ANY WAY THAT YOU 

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CAN SUPPORT EFFORTS BEING MADE 

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TO ACQUIRE MORE HOUSING, BUILD 

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MORE HOUSING IS WHAT'S NEEDED.

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FOR THE PEOPLE THAT I WORK WITH, 

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FOR THE FAMILIES THAT DON'T WANT 

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TO SEND THEIR KIDS TO THE 

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STREETS BUT ARE FORCED TO 

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BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THEM INTO 

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TREATMENT, WE'RE CREATING MORE 

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OF A PROBLEM.

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WE NEED HOUSING.

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THAT'S ALL.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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ANNIE IS OUR LAST SPEAKER.

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>> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS 

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ANNIE.

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TODAY I'M SPEAKING FROM A FEW 

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PERSPECTIVES.

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FIRST ARE R OF ALL I'M A 

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RESIDENT FOR 20 YEARS IN FREMONT 

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AND WITNESSED FIRSTHAND THE 

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HOMELESS ISSUE GROWING IN OUR 

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COMMUNITY.

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AND IN PARTICULAR IRVINGTON HIGH 

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SCHOOL AREA THERE'S MANY, MANY, 

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YOU KNOW, CAMP GOING AROUND LOUD 

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MUSIC, BODY PARTS, SOME HOMELESS 

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START ATTACKING STUDENTS AND 

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SOME OF THE STUDENTS ARE WORRIED 

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AND DO NOT DARE TO WALK TO THE 

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SCHOOL.

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IN TECHNOLOGY DRIVE WHERE MY 

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CHURCH IS, THERE'S 30 TO 40 RVs 

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PARKED THERE, HUMAN WASTE 

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EVERYWHERE, WE HAVE ELDERS, 

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SENIORS, WE HAVE CHILDREN 

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STEPPING ON IT WITHOUT REALIZING 

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IT.

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IT'S LIKE HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH, 

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RIGHT?

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ON THE OTHER HAND, FREMONT HAS 

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DONE SO MUCH WITH THE HOMELESS 

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NAVIGATION CENTER, ALSO WE'RE 

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THE HEAD OF HUMAN RELATION 

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COMMISSION COMMISSIONER, WE 

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SPEND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF 

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DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THOSE PEOPLE 

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FOR FOOD AND COUNSELING.

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SO LET'S WORK TOGETHER BUT WE'VE 

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DONE SO MUCH.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU.

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THAT CONCLUDES ORAL 

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COMMUNICATIONS.

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THANK YOU FOR ALL THE FEEDBACK.

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AS WE MENTIONED WE CAN'T ACT ON 

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THIS BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING 

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YOU THE OH AND VOICING YOUR 

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CONCERNS.

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WITH THAT, WE'LL GO BACK TO 

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ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT.

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FIRST WE HAVE ITEM 2A.

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IS THERE SOMEBODY HERE TO SPEAK 

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ON ITEM 2A?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: JOANN SCHWOB.

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>> Mayor Salwan: WELCOME.

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WHILE SHE COMES UP, CITY 

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ATTORNEY, I NEVER HAD THAT 

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BEFORE WHERE SOMEBODY WANTED THE 

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ORDINANCE READ.

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IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD 

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DO OR -- OR IS THAT A STANDARD 

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THING?

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>> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: STATE 

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LAW ALLOWS THE COUNCIL TO WAIVE 

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THE FIRST -- WAIVE THE READINGS 

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OF ORDINANCES, AND THIS IS AN 

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EFFICIENCY MATTER.

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IT WOULD BE INEFFICIENT TO READ 

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SOME OF OUR LONGER ORDINANCES 

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WORD BY WORD.

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SO STATE LAW DOES ALLOW US TO 

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ADOPT ORDINANCES IN THE FASHION 

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THAT WE DO.

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WE, IN FACT, EXCEED OUR BROWN 

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ACT OBLIGATIONS BY READING THE 

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TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE.

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IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT WHEN THE 

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ORDINANCE IS ATTACHED AND 

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PROPERLY DESCRIBED IN THE 

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AGENDA, WHICH THEY ALWAYS ARE ON 

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OUR AGENDAS, SO WE INTO THE ONLY 

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MEET, WE EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS 

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OF THE BROWN ACT.

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THANK YOU, MAYOR.

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>> Mayor Salwan: MS. SCHWOB.

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>> THANK YOU.

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, CITY ATTORNEY.

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THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE I 

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BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE 

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COMMUNITY TO HAVE THE FULL 

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ORDINANCE READ TO BE INFORMED, 

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TO BE TRANSPARENT, AND I JUST 

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WANT TO MAKE THAT KNOWN, THAT IF 

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THERE ARE OTHERS VISITING AT ANY 

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GIVEN MEETING THAT THEY'D LIKE 

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TO HEAR WHAT THE FULL ORDINANCE 

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IS TO PLEASE SUBMIT A COMMENT 

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CARD ASKING THAT IT NOT BE 

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WAIVED FOR FURPS READING.

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>> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: THROUGH 

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THE MAYOR, I ALSO BELIEVE WE 

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MAINTAIN A COPY OF THE COMPLETE 

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PACKET IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS 

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AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: YES, IT'S IN 

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THE BINDER IN THE BACK OF THE 

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ROOM WHEN WE HAVE ORDINANCES ON 

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THE AGENDA, AND THEN WE ALSO 

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KEEP ONE AT THE FRONT COUNTER IN 

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CITY HALL THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR 

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REVIEW DURING OUR NORMAL 

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BUSINESS HOURS.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU.

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SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR 

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COMMENTS?

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SEEING NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION 

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ON THIS?

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO.

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IS THERE A SECOND?

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>> Councilmember Shao: SO 

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MOVED.

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>> Mayor Salwan: COUNCILMEMBER 

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LIU?

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>> Councilmember Liu: I'LL 

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SECOND THAT.

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>> Mayor Salwan: MOVED BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO, SECONDED BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER LIU.

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PLEASE VOTE.

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MOTION IS UNANIMOUS, 7-0.

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NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 2C.

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I BELIEVE COUNCILMEMBER LIU HAD 

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A QUESTION.

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IS ANYBODY FROM STAFF AVAILABLE 

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TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION?

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WE HAVE THE CHIEF.

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>> GOOD EVENING.

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>> Mayor Salwan: GOOD EVENING.

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>> I DID RECEIVE THE QUESTION 

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VIA EMAIL, SO I'LL TRY TO 

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PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION.

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SO THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WAS 

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REQUESTED THROUGH -- AND AWARDED 

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$190,000 THROUGH A GRANT, AND 

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IT'S A CHEMICAL IDENTIFICATION 

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PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

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THE CITIZEN WHO TALKED ABOUT THE 

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PRICE ON THE WEBSITE IS ACTUALLY 

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CORRECT, EXCEPT WE REQUESTED AN 

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UPGRADE, WHICH ALLOWS US TO BE 

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ABLE TO IDENTIFY SMALL TRACES OF 

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AMOUNTS OF POTENTIAL FENTANYL OR 

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CHEMICALS THAT MIGHT BE HARMFUL 

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TO THE MEMBERS WHO ARE 

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RESPONDING TO THE INCIDENT.

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SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE 

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QUOTE, IT WAS ACTUALLY

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 $171,588,000 WITH TAXES THAT 

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BROUGHT TO 18917577.

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AND THAT'S WHY IT COST THAT 

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MUCH.

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IT WAS REQUESTED IN THAT FORMAT 

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JUST BASED ON WHAT WE DID IN 

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TERMS OF OUR RESEARCH, AND SO WE 

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WENT TO WASI, APPLIED FOR IT AND 

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WERE GRANTED THAT AMOUNT.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU, 

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CHIEF.

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>> SURE.

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>> Mayor Salwan: ANY QUESTIONS?

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COUNCILMEMBER LIU.

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>> Councilmember Liu: NO WE 

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QUESTIONS, JUST A COMMENT I WANT 

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TO THANK THE CHIEF FOR 

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ADDRESSING THAT QUESTION.

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I THINK YOU ANSWERED 

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EVERYBODY'S, I GUESS, ANY 

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FURTHER QUESTIONS WE HAVE ON 

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THAT, SO THANK YOU AGAIN AND, 

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YEAH.

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>> Mayor Salwan: DO YOU WANT TO 

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MOVE IT FORWARD?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: EXCUSE ME, I DO 

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HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FOR THE ITEM 

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FROM JOANN SCHWOB.

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>> Mayor Salwan: MS. SCHWOB.

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>> THANK YOU.

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I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE 

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COUNCIL THAT THIS PIECE OF 

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EQUIPMENT BE USED STRICTLY FOR 

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THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND NOT FOR 

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LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES.

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I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR 

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CIVIL RIGHTS AND I WOULD HATE TO 

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THINK THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT COULD 

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HAVE THE SAME ANALYZER AND DRIVE 

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DOWN THE STREETS LOOKING FOR 

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WHO'S SMOKING MARIJUANA IN THEIR 

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HOUSE OR WHO'S THROWING POT OR 

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WHO'S DOING FENTANYL IN

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 THIS METHAMPHETAMINE.

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PLEASE KEEP OUR CIVIL RIGHTS IN 

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CONSIDERATION.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU.

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ANY MORE SPEAKERS?

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SEEING NONE, I THINK WE HAD A 

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MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LIU.

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IS THERE A SECOND?

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO SECONDS.

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO SECONDS?

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>> Councilmember Shao: YES.

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>> Mayor Salwan: OKAY, PLEASE 

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VOTE.

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UNANIMOUS, 7-0, MOTION PASSES.

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WITH THAT, WE WILL GO TO 

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SCHEDULED ITEMS.

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WE HAVE 5A, WHICH IS THE 

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BUILDING APPEALS BOARD AMENDMENT 

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TO MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.

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I THINK WE HAVE MR. WAGE AND 

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MIKE WAYNE HERE?

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THERE'S NO MORE FALL 

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 -- THERE'S NO FORMAL 

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PRESENTATION, THEY'RE JUST HERE 

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TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE 

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COUNCIL MAY HAVE, IS THAT 

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CORRECT?

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR SALWAN.

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YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

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JUST QUESTIONS.

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>> Mayor Salwan: OKAY, GREAT.

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QUESTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER 

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KIMBERLIN.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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OKAY.

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SO I GUESS JUST FOR 

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CLARIFICATION, I THINK I'M 

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READING IT BUT I WANT TO BE 

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SURE, IN PLACE OF THE 2100, IT'S 

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BEEN BROKEN DOWN INTO THREE 

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SEPARATE BUCKETS BASICALLY TO 

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BETTER IDENTIFY WHAT'S BEING 

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ADDRESSED?

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AND SO IT COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD 

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TO A LESSER FINE OR A LESSER 

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FEE, A LESSER FEE FOR THE PERSON 

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WHO IS -- THIS IS ADDRESSING OR 

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-- CORRECT?

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>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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OKAY.

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THAT'S ALL I HAD.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: QUESTION, 

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COUNCILMEMBER LIU?

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>> Councilmember Liu: SO 

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CONTINUING ON COUNCILMEMBER 

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KIMBERLIN SAID, IT SEEMS LIKE IF 

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FOR SOME REASON THEY WOULD NEED 

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TO DO ALL THREE APPEALS, RIGHT, 

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IT WOULD BE CHEAPER -- I DID THE 

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QUICK MATH, IT'S UNDER 2100 AND 

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IT CURRENTLY IS A LITTLE BIT 

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ABOVE 2100, SO THEY WOULD NEED 

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TO GO THROUGH ALL THREE APPEALS, 

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IT WOULD BE CHEAPER THAN IT IS 

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RIGHT NOW, RIGHT?

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>> I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE A 

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CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE SOMEONE IS 

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APPEALING -- MAKING ALL THREE OF 

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THESE TYPES OF APPEALS IN ONE 

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INSTANCE.

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THEY'D REALLY BE INDIVIDUAL 

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ITEMS, INDIVIDUAL APPEALS, AND 

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THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM 

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WOULD BE INDIVIDUAL.

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>> Councilmember Liu: BUT I 

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MEAN, IF THEY WERE FOR SOME 

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REASON, IT WOULD STILL END UP 

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BEING LESS THAN THE CURRENT FEE 

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WHICH IS 2100, RIGHT?

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$2,101, THE MATH FOR ALL THREE 

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TOGETHER IS A LITTLE BIT OVER 

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2,000.

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>> THEORETICALLY I DON'T 

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ANTICIPATE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHEN 

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SOMEONE WOULD BE MAKING THESE 

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THREE APPEAL ALL AT ONCE BUT 

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UNDER THE OLD FEE THEY'D PAY THE 

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$2,100 AMOUNT THREE TIMES.

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>> Councilmember Liu: RIGHT, 

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JUST CLARIFYING.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

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>> Mayor Salwan: SPEAKING ABOUT 

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ALL THESE FEES, KIND OF REMINDS 

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ME, INITIALLY WHEN THIS WAS 

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PRESENTED WE ONLY HAD ONE FEE, 

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CORRECT, AND NOW WE'RE PREAK 

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 BREAKING IT UP FOR SMALLER 

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ISSUE, LESS FEES?

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>> CORRECT, BY DISAGGREGATING 

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THE FEE WE FEEL LIKE IT RESULTS 

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IN A FEE THAT'S MORE REFLECTIVE 

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OF THE ACTUAL COST OF PROCESSING 

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RATHER THAN AN AVERAGE OF THE 

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AMOUNT OF TIME ANTICIPATED TO 

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PROCESS THESE VARIOUS TYPES OF 

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APPEALS, WHICH CAN VARY IN TIME 

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AND COMPLEXITY.

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>> Mayor Salwan: VERY GOOD, 

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THANK YOU.

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VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION, 

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BECAUSE OF THE HOURS, THE NUMBER 

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OF HOURS, SO ARE WE -- DO THEY

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 PAY ACCORDING TO HOW LONG IT 

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TAKES OR IS THAT A FLAT FEE?

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>> SO TWO OF THE THREE FEES ARE 

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FLAT FEES.

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THE APPEAL OF CITATIONS IS A 

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FLAT FEE.

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THE APPEAL OF BUILDING OFFICIAL 

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DETERMINATIONS IS A FLAT FEE, 

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AND THEN THE THIRD FEE APPEALS 

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OF NOTICE AND ORDER OR NOTICE TO 

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VACATE, THAT'S A DEPOSIT-BASED 

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FEE BASED ON TIME AND MATERIALS 

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SPENT TO PROCESS THE APPEAL.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: CORRECT, 

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SO THAT DOES THEN SUGGEST THAT 

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IT COULD BE MORE THAN THE -- 

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WHEN I CALCULATED IT, IT WOULD 

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HAVE BEEN -- JUST AS THE FLAT 

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FEE AND THE $960 DEPOSIT, IT 

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WOULD BE $2,065, WHICH IS LESS, 

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ASSUMING EVERYBODY DID ALL OF 

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THOSE, BUT IT POTENTIALLY COULD 

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BE MORE BECAUSE THAT THIRD FEE 

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IS NOT A FLAT FEE?

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BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOURS.

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>> I'M NOT SURE I FOLLOW THE 

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QUESTION OR THE MATH.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: OKAY.

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SO THE FIRST TWO FEES ARE FLAT 

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FEES.

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$335, $770, AND THEN THERE'S A 

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DEPOSIT OF 960.

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>> CORRECT.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: SO THAT 

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TOTAL WOULD BE $2,065.

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ASSUMING THAT YOU DID THEM ALL.

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>> AGAIN, I DON'T REALLY 

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ANTICIPATE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE 

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SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE APPEALING 

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ALL THREE THINGS AT ONCE.

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THEY'RE REALLY DIFFERENT APPEALS 

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APPLYING TO DIFFERENT 

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CIRCUMSTANCES.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: OKAY.

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>> IF I COULD JUST CHIME IN.

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THE REASON THAT WE DISAGGREGATED 

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THEM IS BECAUSE THE THIRD TYPE 

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OF FEE, WHICH HAS A DEPOSIT OF 

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$960, COULD GO FAR BEYOND THAT, 

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DEPENDING ON THE COMPLEXITY OF 

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THE CASE, AND THE WAY THAT WE 

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SET IT UP PREVIOUSLY, WE WERE 

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TAKING THESE OUTLIERS THAT COULD 

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BE VERY MUCH AND AVERAGING THEM 

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WITH OTHER TYPES OF APPEALS THAT 

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WERE MUCH LOWER.

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SO THE TWO FLAT FEES NOW ARE 

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MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT WE 

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PREVIOUSLY ASSESSED, AND THE 

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THIRD FEE IS DEPOSIT-BASED AND 

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IN THAT CASE, THE CHARGES WILL 

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BE COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON HOW 

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MUCH STAFF TIME IS SPENT.

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SO IT'S JUST -- IT'S MORE 

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PRECISE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: RIGHT.

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>> THE VAST MAJORITY OF FOLKS 

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WILL END UP PAYING LESS OF A FEE 

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THAN THEY WOULD HAVE UNDER THE 

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OLD SETUP.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: I SEE.

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BUT ONLY IN THE -- PROBABLY THE 

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FIRST TWO CATEGORIES, BUT THE 

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THIRD CATEGORY DEPENDS ON HOW 

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LONG IT TAKES.

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>> CORRECT.

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BUT SOME OF THOSE FOLKS WILL END 

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UP, YOU KNOW, THE $960

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 DEPOSIT MAY COVER THEIR ENTIRE 

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COST.

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IT WILL BE MORE PRECISE.

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THEN WHEN WE HAVE APPEALS THAT 

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ARE VERY COMPLEX, IT MAY TAKE 

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MUCH MORE THAN $2,000 WORTH OF 

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STAFF TIME, THOSE FOLKS WILL PAY 

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WHAT IT REALLY COSTS.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: OKAY.

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AND THEN THERE WILL BE A 

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REIMBURSEMENT IF FOR SOME REASON 

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THEY DON'T MEET THAT DEPOSIT 

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AMOUNT?

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OKAY.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: COUNCILMEMBER 

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ZHANG.

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>> Councilmember Zhang: OKAY, 

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THANK YOU, MAYOR SALWAN.

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THIS IS NOT A QUESTION BUT A 

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COMMENT.

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I DON'T KNOW WHETHER BEFORE I 

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CAME TO ON BOARD THAT SOMEBODY 

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COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS OR 

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SOMETHING, BUT I THINK THIS IS A 

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REALLY GOOD POLICY THAT REFLECTS 

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THE CITY OF FREMONT LISTENED TO 

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THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

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BECAUSE YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF 

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YOU HAVE 20 -- $2,000 APPEAL FEE 

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AND USUALLY YOU WOULD PREVENT 

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PEOPLE TO APPEAL.

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SO THIS WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE 

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AND THEN WOULD MAKE THE 

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COMMUNITY'S FEEDBACK HEARD, AND 

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I THINK THIS IS JUST WONDERFUL.

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I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR 

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DOING THIS.

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AND ALSO COMPARE WITH OTHER 

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CITIES' POLICY, I THINK FREMONT 

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IS DOING A WAY BETTER JOB, SO I 

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WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU.

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QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBER 

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KIMBERLIN?

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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THANK YOU.

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REAL QUICK, WHAT INITIATED 

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THIS?

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DID YOU JUST DO FURTHER REVIEW, 

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OR DID YOU RECEIVE COMPLAINTS OR 

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JUST OCCURRED TO YOU THAT THIS 

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WASN'T REALLY REFLECTING WHAT 

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YOU'RE DOING IN YOUR -- WITH THE 

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APPEALS?

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>> THERE WAS A SPEAKER WHEN WE 

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INITIALLY ADOPTED THE BUILDING 

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APPEALS BOARD WHO COMMENTED ON 

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THE APPEALS FEE, AND WE DID DO 

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SOME INTERNAL -- DISCUSSED 

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INTERNALLY TO STAFF AND 

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RECOGNIZED THAT THIS MIGHT BE A 

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WAY TO ADDRESS THE COMMENT AND 

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ALSO AGAIN BETTER REFLECT THE 

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ACTUAL COST OF PROCESSING THESE 

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APPEALS.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU.

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WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC 

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HEARING.

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CALL THE SPEAKERS?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: YES, MAYOR.

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THE FIRST SPEAKER IS JOHN WEID.

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THE SECOND PERSON THAT TURNED IN 

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A CARD, SAYS 5A READ AMENDMENT 

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BUT IN LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE 

[Captioner] 19:56:41
OTHER SPEAKER CARDS I BELIEVE 

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THIS MAY BE JOANN SCHWOB, BUT 

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THERE'S NO NAME LISTED.

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>> Mayor Salwan: OKAY.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: SORRY, WE'RE AT 

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ONE MINUTE?

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>> Mayor Salwan: WE'LL GIVE THEM 

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TWO MINUTES.

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MS. SCHWOB, DID YOU WANT TO 

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SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?

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PASS?

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OKAY, THANK YOU.

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>> GIVE ME THREE?

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: I'LL GIVE YOU 

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THREE MINUTES, YES.

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I'LL GIVE YOU THREE MINUTES.

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>> JOHN WIED, MISSION 

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BOULEVARD.

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REMEMBER, ICE WAS THE SPEAKER 

[Captioner] 19:57:12
WHEN IT CAME UP BEFORE.

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AND THE REASON FOR THE $2,100 

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WAS YOU WERE GOING TO GO TO A 

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NEW COMMITTEE, AND THEY BASED IT 

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ON THE COST OF GOING TO THAT 

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COMMITTEE.

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TWO OF THESE ITEMS ARE CERTAINLY 

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AN IMPROVEMENT.

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IT ASSUMES THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING 

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TO GO TO THE COMMITTEE.

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BUT TO REMOVE THE CAP, WHICH

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 WAS $35, RAISED TO $2,100, AND 

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NOW UNKNOWN.

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THE CITY CHARGES ALMOST THREE 

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TIMES THE ACTUAL COST OF THE 

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PAYROLL TO THE EMPLOYEE WITH 

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OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS PUT 

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ON AND CAN RUN UP AN 

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EXTRAORDINARY BILL.

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IT REALLY IS PROHIBITING.

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YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE

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 WAY THIS IS BEING ENACTED.

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IT'S COMPLAINT-BASED.

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THE SAME ISSUE ACROSS THE STREET 

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OR NEXT DOOR WOULD BE IGNORED 

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UNLESS THEY RECEIVED SPECIFIC 

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COMPLAINTS.

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AND THOSE COMPLAINTS ARE OFTEN 

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BASED ON THE MOST BIGOTED AND 

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FAMILY DISPUTES YOU CAN 

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IMAGINE.

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CODE ENFORCEMENT IS A POLICE 

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POWER.

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YOU HAVE A MECHANISM WITHIN THE 

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POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW 

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ABUSES OF THE POLICE POWER.

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I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO --

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 CLARIFY WHERE THERE IS ABUSE, 

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AND I'VE ENCOUNTERED IT, THAT WE 

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HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE TO THAT 

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SAME COMMITTEE WITHIN THE POLICE 

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DEPARTMENT THAT CAN HOLD A 

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REVIEW AND DETERMINE IF THERE 

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WAS INAPPROPRIATE CONDUCT IN THE 

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EXECUTION OF THE ORDINANCE.

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THE CHALLENGE YOU HAVE AS A 

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COMMUNITY IS HOW DO YOU ADDRESS 

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THIS OBVIOUSLY SELECTIVE 

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ENFORCEMENT?

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AND BRING A LEVEL OF FAIRNESS TO 

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EVERYONE?

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AND TO ASSURE THAT THE 

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PROFESSIONALISM OF THE STAFF IS 

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MAINTAINED?

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I RECENTLY RECEIVED FIVE NOTICES 

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OF VIOLATION BASED ON INDIVIDUAL 

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COMPLAINTS FROM A GROUP WHO WERE 

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UPSET THAT I BROUGHT A HINDU 

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TEMPLE INTO TOWN.

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EACH OF THOSE NOTICES CAME 

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WITHOUT WARNING OR PRIOR 

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DISCUSSION.

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A DOESN'T ALLOW YOU THE TIME TO 

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RESOLVE THE ISSUES.

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WHEN YOU GET A NOTICE OF 

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VIOLATION, YOU HAVE SEVEN DAYS 

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TO APPEAL OR IT GOES INTO 

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EFFECT.

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NOT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THAT.

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IT'S IN THE FINE PRINT.

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SO YOU'RE WORKING ON IT, YOU'VE 

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MADE ONE STEP IN THE RIGHT 

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DIRECTION, BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU 

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TO PUT A $2,100 CAP ON THE FINAL 

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PROVISION, AND NOT ALLOW TO BE 

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RUN INTO THE STRATOSPHERE.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU.

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THAT WAS THE ONLY SPEAKER?

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OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC 

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HEARING.

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BRING IT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL 

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FOR COMMENTS AND HOPEFULLY A 

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MOTION AFTER.

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COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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OKAY.

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SO I THINK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT 

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THIS BEFORE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE 

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LENGTH OF TIME AND THE SEVEN 

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DAYS, I THOUGHT IT WAS 30 DAYS 

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OR IT WAS MUCH LONGER THAN SEVEN 

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DAYS.

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WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE FIRST 

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TIME.

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WHEN IT GOES TO APPEAL, THE 

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PROCESS, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT 

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THAT LOOKS LIKE?

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>> SO IF SOMEONE DOES RECEIVE A 

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NOTICE AND ORDER, THAT'S ONE OF 

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THE TYPES -- OF THE THREE ITEMS 

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HERE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT APPEAL 

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PERIOD LENGTHS ASSOCIATED WITH 

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EACH.

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FOR A NOTICE AND ORDER IT IS A 

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7-DAY APPEAL PERIOD, FOR APPEALS 

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OF CITATIONS, IT'S 21 DAYS.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: SO A 

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CITATION WOULD BE THE 

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COMPLAINT-BASED?

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>> WELL, MOST OF THE CODE

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 CASES THAT WE FOLLOW UP ON ARE 

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COMPLAINT BASED.

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THERE ARE SOME TYPES OF 

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PROACTIVE CODE CASES MOST LE 

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RELATED TO HEALTH AND SAFETY 

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ISSUES THAT STAFF FOLLOWS UP ON 

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PROACTIVELY.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: COUNCILMEMBER 

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SHAO.

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>> Councilmember Shao: THANK 

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YOU, MR. MAYOR.

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I JUST WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.

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>> Mayor Salwan: I GUESS THERE'S 

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NO MORE COMMENTS?

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YES, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

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MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER SHAO.

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SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KENG.

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I DID HAVE A QUESTION.

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SO HE DOES TALK ABOUT CAPPING 

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THE AMOUNT.

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I'M GUESSING IT'S BECAUSE YOU 

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DON'T WANT TO CAP THE STAFF COST 

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BECAUSE THEY MAY INCREASE IN 

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CERTAIN CASES.

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IS THAT WHAT THE LOGIC IS BEHIND 

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THAT?

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OKAY.

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ALL RIGHT.

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AND I UNDERSTAND HIS POINT ABOUT 

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SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT, BUT MOST 

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OF THESE THINGS ARE 

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COMPLAINT-DRIVEN.

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I THINK SOMEBODY CALLS AND FILES 

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A COMPLAINT, THEN THAT'S HOW 

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THIS WHOLE THING STARTS.

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YOU DON'T GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO 

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LOOK FOR TROUBLE.

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>> THAT'S CORRECT.

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>> Mayor Salwan: OKAY.

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GREAT.

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WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 

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ADVOCACY.

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I DID THINK IT MADE A 

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DIFFERENCE.

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I KNOW YOU HAD COME BEFORE AND I 

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THINK THERE'S SOME TIERS NOW, SO 

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HOPEFULLY THAT WILL ADDRESS SOME 

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OF THE CONCERNS.

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SO WITH THAT -- OH, A COMMENT 

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FROM VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: I JUST 

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HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

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REGARDING THE FEE FOR THE THIRD 

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LEVEL WITH THE $960 DEPOSIT.

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DID YOU GIVE AN  AVERAGE HOW 

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LONG ONE OF THESE CASES WOULD 

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TAKE AT THE APPEALS BOARD?

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>> YEAH, THE DEPOSIT AMOUNT WAS 

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BASED ON AN AVERAGE FOR THE 

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TYPES OF APPEALS, BUT I THINK AS 

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WAS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF 

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REPORT FOR THIS PARTICULAR TYPE 

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OF APPEAL, THERE IS QUITE A BIT 

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OF VARIATION IN THE DURATION -- 

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AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME AND 

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COMPLEXITY OF THESE TYPES OF 

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APPEALS.

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SO WE INTENTIONALLY KIND OF SET 

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IT LESS THAN THE AVERAGE AMOUNT 

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OF TIME RECOGNIZING THAT THERE 

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IS THIS GREAT VARIATION BUT 

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STILL HAVING IT BE DEPOSIT BASED 

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TO ULTIMATELY COVER THE COST OF 

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STAFF TIME IN THE END.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: OKAY, I 

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GET THAT, BUT I THINK I MAY NEED 

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TO REPHRASE MY QUESTION.

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WHAT IS THE AVERAGE TIME?

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I DON'T THINK -- I DON'T RECALL 

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SEEING THAT IN THE STAFF 

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REPORT.

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>> BASED ON OUR CALCULATION, IT 

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WAS APPROXIMATELY 21 HOWRGS OF 

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 21 HOURS OF STAFF TIME.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: SO WE HAVE A 

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MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SHAO.

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COUNCILMEMBER LIU?

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>> Councilmember Liu: SO I HAVE 

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A QUESTION, I GUESS, TO FOLLOW 

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UP ON WHAT WILL THE VICE MAYOR 

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ASKED.

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SO LIKE I GUESS TALKING ABOUT 

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THE OUTLIERS HERE, BECAUSE I 

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THINK PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT 

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THE OUTLIERS RATHER THAN THE 

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AVERAGE, WHAT'S THE LONGEST TIME 

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THAT SOME OF THESE APPEALS HAVE 

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TAKEN?

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OR JUST LIKE NOT THE LONGEST BUT 

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LIKE SOME OF THE LONGER ONES, 

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LIKE THE OUTLIERS, IF YOU WILL, 

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DO YOU GUYS KNOW OFF THE TOP OF 

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YOUR HEAD?

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>> THERE HAVE BEEN APPEALS OF 

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NOTICE AND ORDER THAT HAVE 

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INCLUDED MULTIPLE DAYS OF 

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TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF A HEARING 

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OFFICER, AND STAFF TIME IN FRONT 

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OF THE HEARING OFFICER.

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>> SO MY SECOND QUESTION, UNDER 

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THIS SYSTEM, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT 

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COST IF DONE UNDER THIS SYSTEM?

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BECAUSE BEFORE THEY JUST PAID 

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THE FLAT FEE OF

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 $2,000, ADJUSTABLE RATE, AN 

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ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH WOULD THEY 

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PAY?

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>> I DON'T HAVE THOSE FIGURES 

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WITH ME, BUT IT WOULD DEPEND 

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AGAIN ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND 

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WHICH STAFF ARE PARTICIPATING.

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>> Councilmember Liu: CAN YOU 

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JUST -- LIKE AN ESTIMATE?

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I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A CONCRETE 

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NUMBER.

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IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CORRECT TO 

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THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OR THE CENTS.

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JUST LIKE 5,000, 10,000?

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>> YEAH, I'D SAY THAT'S PROBABLY 

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IN THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.

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>> Councilmember Liu: ALL RIGHT, 

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: GREAT.

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SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO, SECOND BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG.

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PLEASE VOTE.

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>> Mayor Salwan: DID YOU MEAN TO 

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VOTE AGAINST YOUR OWN MOTION?

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>> Councilmember Shao: RIGHT, I 

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MADE THE MOTION SO I DON'T KNOW 

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WHY THE MACHINE JUST --

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>> Ms. Gauthier: WE'LL EXIT THIS 

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AND YOU CAN ALL REVOTE.

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>> Mayor Salwan: YOU'RE MESSING 

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WITH US.

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ALL RIGHT.

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MOTION IS UNANIMOUS, 7-0.

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THANK YOU.

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SO NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 7A, WHICH 

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IS A COUNCIL REFERRAL.

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THIS IS COUNCILMEMBER SHAO'S 

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REFERRAL.

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THE WAY THAT REFERRALS WORK IS 

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THEY ARE MOVED BY THE 

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COUNCILMEMBER TO BE CONSIDERED 

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FOR THE AGENDA.

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AND IT REQUIRES A COUNCIL 

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MAJORITY TO VOTE TO PLACE THIS 

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ON THE AGENDA, IT CAN BE 

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MODIFIED, IT COULD BE CHANGED, 

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AND FEEDBACK COULD BE GIVEN TO 

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO.

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SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAVE 

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO INTRODUCE 

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THIS REFERRAL.

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>> Councilmember Shao: THANK 

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YOU, MR. MAYOR.

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THIS IS JUST TO CLOSE THE LOOP 

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ON -- REMEMBER LAST COUNCIL 

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RETREAT, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS 

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POLICY AND WE REACHED CONSENSUS 

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ON THIS POLICY, SO THAT IT WOULD 

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ALLOW THE COUNCIL TO FOCUS ON 

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LOCAL MATTERS.

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AND TRY TOP BRING BENEFITS TO 

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OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS.

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SO TONIGHT, THE REFERRAL AS THE 

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MAYOR SAID IS JUST A PROPOSAL TO

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 ASK THE STAFF TO DRAFT A POLICY 

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WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THREE

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 COMPONENTS, LIMIT CITY 

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INVOLVEMENT IN LOCAL MATTERS, 

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ENCOURAGE -- AND STREAMLINE 

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RESOURCES.

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AS FOR THE EXACT WORDING OF THE 

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POLICY OR WHEN THIS POLICY WILL 

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BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE CITY 

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COUNCIL FOR WORDSMITHING OR 

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DISCUSSION, THAT IS A DIFFERENT 

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ISSUE.

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SO I WOULD SIMPLY LIKE TO ASK 

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THE CITY COUNCIL TO AGREE TO 

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MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

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>> Mayor Salwan: OKAY.

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ANY QUESTIONS?

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VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL?

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: I JUST 

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HAD A QUICK CLARIFYING 

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QUESTION.

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WHERE YOU HAVE ENCOURAGE LOCAL

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 IMPACT, NUMBER TWO, WHERE IT

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 TALKS ABOUT HOUSING, 

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TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, 

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COMMUTER SERVICES, IS THIS IN 

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THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION SO 

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THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT REGIONAL 

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AND NATIONAL TYPES OF CONCERNS 

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AROUND OR BEST PRACTICES, AND 

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THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES AS 

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OPPOSED TO INTERNATIONAL, SO YOU 

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REALLY WANT TO NARROW THIS TO 

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JUST INTERNATIONAL AND NOT 

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NATIONAL OR REGIONAL?

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>> Councilmember Shao: RIGHT.

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THE ORIGINAL WORDING IS TO AVOID 

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INTERNATIONAL VERSUS NATIONAL IS 

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BECAUSE, OF COURSE, 

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SUPERMAJORITY OF OUR CLAB RAIGS 

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 COLLABORATIONS FOR THE BENEFIT 

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OF FREMONT RESIDENTS IS 

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REGIONAL.

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TYPICALLY WITHIN THE ALAMEDA 

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COUNTY, THAT'S TO SAY.

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BUT INEVITABLY, WE WOULD RELY ON 

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STATE FUNDING OR SOMETIMES THE 

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FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THAT ARE.

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AND ALL THE CITY COUNCILMEMBERS 

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CARRY THE OBLIGATION TO ADVOCATE 

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FOR SUCH FUNDING.

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SO THAT'S WHY I TRIED NOT

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 TO LIMIT THE

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 SCOPE, JUST -- LOCAL COULD MEAN 

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JUST UP TO FEDERAL.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: OKAY, 

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: SO FOR EXAMPLE, 

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IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE OF FREMONT 

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CONCERN, WE COULD TELL THE STATE 

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THAT THIS IS A CONCERN FOR

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 FREMONT, WE ARE COULD STILL 

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WEIGH IN OR TO THE FEDERAL 

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GOVERNMENT IF THERE WERE FUNDING 

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CHALLENGES WE COULD ADVOCATE --

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>> Councilmember Shao: THAT 

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DOESN'T LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO 

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ADVOCATE THROUGH, FOR EXAMPLE, 

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REPRESENTATIVES AT THE STATE 

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LEVEL OR EVEN LIKE THE 

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REPRESENTATIVES IN CONGRESS TO 

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LOOK INTO CERTAIN ISSUES.

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BUT NOT NECESSARILY

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 AS A CITY GOVERNING BODY TO 

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ISSUE RESOLUTIONS AND TRY TO 

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EXPRESS OUR POSITIONS AND SO ON, 

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BECAUSE TYPICALLY SUCH 

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RESOLUTIONS AS WE HAVE OBSERVED 

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COULD BRING DIVISIVENESS TO THE 

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CITY WHICH IS THE LAST THING THE 

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CITY COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE 

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HAPPENING IN THE CITY.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU FOR 

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THE CLARIFICATION.

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG?

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>> Councilmember Keng: SO I DO 

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HAVE A QUESTION.

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SO BACK IN 2023, THE CITY OF 

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FREMONT, WE ACTUALLY HELD A 

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FUNDRAISING EFFORT TO HELP THE 

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AFGHAN REFUGEES, AND WE RAISED I 

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THINK MAYBE CLOSE TO HALF A 

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MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE 

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COMMUNITY, SO HOW DID THAT -- IF 

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WE HAVE AN EVENT COMING UP 

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SIMILAR TO THAT, HOW WOULD THIS 

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NEW KIND OF PROPOSAL AFFECT 

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THAT?

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>> Councilmember Shao: VERY GOOD 

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QUESTION.

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SEE, LIKE THIS EXACTLY GOES TO 

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NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE, IS 

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TO PRIORITIZE ACTIONABLE ITEMS.

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SO BY RAISING MONEY TO HELP THE 

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AFGHAN REFUGEES, THIS IS 

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SOMETHING ACTIONABLE, AND ALSO, 

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STREAMLINE RESOURCES ALSO WOULD 

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HELP THE CITY TO NOT ONLY 

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UNDERSTAND OUR RESOURCES AND 

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SOMETIMES EVEN TO MAKE OUR 

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EFFORTS EXPAND OUR RESOURCES.

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SO THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT 

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EXCLUDED IN THIS POTENTIAL 

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POLICY.

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QUITE -- IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF 

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ACTIONS WE HAVE TAKEN.

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>> Mayor Salwan: SO IT WOULD BE 

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ALLOWED.

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>> Councilmember Shao: YES.

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>> Mayor Salwan: GREAT.

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SO I THINK THAT'S ALL THE 

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CLARIFYING QUESTIONS I SEE FROM 

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THE COUNCIL.

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WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS, SO IF 

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WE HAVE COULD CALL THE THREE 

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SPEAKERS?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: YES, SIR.

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>> Mayor Salwan: AND I THINK 

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WE'LL JUST ALLOW MAYBE A MINUTE 

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EACH.

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>> Mayor Salwan: OKAY.

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KATE AHMANN, JOANN SCHWOB,

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 SAI NATARAJAN.

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>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

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I HAVE THE QUESTION FOR 

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO AS TO I DO 

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NOT SEE A REAL PURPOSE THAT'S 

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USEFUL FOR THIS EXCEPT AS A 

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PRETEXT TO SET UP TO STRIP THE 

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CITY OF COMPASSIONATE CITY 

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STATUS, STRIP THE CITY OF 

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SANCTUARY STATUS, I DO NOT SEE 

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ANY OTHER PURPOSE FOR THIS THAN 

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THAT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND 

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THIS MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT THIS 

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COUNTY VOTED 70% FOR KAMALA 

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HARRIS AND NOT FOR MAGA AGENDA.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: NEXT SPEAKER.

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>> THANK YOU.

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COUNCILMEMBERS, I WOULD LIKE TO 

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GO ON RECORD ONCE AGAIN FOR THE 

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THIRD TIME SINCE 2019 TO STATE 

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THAT THE CITY OF FREMONT IS A 

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GENERAL LAW CITY, IT IS NOT A 

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CHARTER.

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AND THIS APPEARS TO

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 ME AS A SLEEZY LEGAL TACTIC TO

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 TRANSITION TO A CHARTER.

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YOU MUST PUT THE QUESTION TO A 

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VOTE BY CITY ELECTORS, BY US, 

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THE VOTERS, WHETHER WE WANT TO 

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BE A CHARTER, AND THE PURPOSE 

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FOR THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE IS 

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FOR THEM TO BEING ACT AS A 

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CHARTER, IS TO AVOID FOLLOWING 

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STATE LAW.

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IT GIVES THEM BROADER AUTHORITY 

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TO DO CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE AS 

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RESIDENTS MAY NOT NECESSARILY 

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AGREE WITH, NOR WOULD THE 

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STATE.

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SO I OPPOSE ANY FURTHERANCE OF 

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THIS MATTER WITHOUT --

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU, 

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MA'AM.

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>> SAI NATARAJAN IN MY PERSONAL 

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CAPACITY.

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LET'S FOCUS ON OUR LOCAL ISSUE,

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 PARKS, PLAYGROUND, POLICE, EVEN 

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POTHOLES.

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SPECIAL LIMITS THE POWERS OF 

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INDIVIDUAL STATES AND PREVENTS 

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THEM FROM ENGAGING IN MATTERS OF 

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INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS.

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FAR TOO OFTEN WE'VE SEEN THIS 

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PODIUM AND ROOM HAS BEEN USED AS 

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A MECHANISM PROBABLY CATHARTIC 

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FOR SOME AND I EMPATHIZE WITH 

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THAT, TO EXPRESS THE VIEWS ON 

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MATTERS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE 

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JURISDICTION OF -- FOR EVEN OUR 

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COUNTRY IN SOME CASES.

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SO I APPRECIATE WE LIVE IN 

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INTERESTING TIMES AND POLARIZING 

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ISSUES BECOME PERSONAL DUE TO 

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THE POWER OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND 

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POSSIBLY EVEN SOCIAL EDGE 

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NEARING BUT LET'S RESIST THE 

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TEMPTATION TO MAKE THIS THE 

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SANDBOX IN WHICH WE DUKE IT 

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OUT.

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WE -- LET'S BE KINDER TO EACH 

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OTHER, LET'S TAKE CARE OF LOCAL 

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ISSUES, LET'S KEEP OUR KIDS' 

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COMMUNITIES SAFE AND LET'S BE 

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KINDEST CITY ON THIS PLANET.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU, THAT 

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CONCLUDES OUR COMMUNICATION 

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PORTION.

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WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.

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I GUESS HE'LL POSE THE QUESTION 

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TO COUNCILMEMBER SHAO.

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IS YOUR INTENT TO TRY TO UNDO 

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SOMETHING, SANCTUARY CITY OR ANY 

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OF THAT?

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>> Councilmember Shao: THE 

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ANSWER IS NEGATIVE.

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AS I SAID, THIS IS ACTUALLY

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 A -- RETREAT WHERE ALL THE CITY 

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COUNCILMEMBER, SOME OF US ARE NO 

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LONGER WITH US AT THIS CURRENT 

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COUNCIL, EXPRESSED A WILLINGNESS 

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TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT IT IS 

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THE CITY COUNCIL'S INTENTION TO 

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FOCUS ON LOCAL MATTERS.

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>> Mayor Salwan: OKAY, THANK YOU 

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FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

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I SEE COUNCILMEMBER LIU.

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>> Councilmember Liu: THIS KIND 

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OF I GUESS FOLLOWS UP ON THE 

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QUESTION YOU JUST ASKED, MAYOR.

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SO BASED ON WHAT I'M READING 

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HERE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 

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IN FACT THIS NOT ONLY WOULD 

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OVERTURN, I GUESS, OUR 

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COMPASSIONATE CITY STATUS AS 

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WELL AS SANCTUARY CITY STATUS, 

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BUT THIS WOULD ACTUALLY, IN 

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FACT, SUPPORT -- PROVIDE FURTHER 

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SUPPORT TO THOSE TWO, US BEING A 

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COMPASSIONATE CITY, US BEING A 

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SANCTUARY CITY, CORRECT?

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>> Councilmember Shao: NO, QUITE 

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THE CONTRARY.

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BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 

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SUPPORT, WE CAN NEVER, EVER STOP 

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AT PAYING LIP SERVICES.

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IN THE PAST, A LOT OF PEOPLE 

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COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL SIMPLY 

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ASKING US TO PAY SOME LIP 

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SERVICES SO THAT THEY CAN USE 

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THAT TO GAIN SOME MORAL GROUND 

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IN THEIR FIGHT OF SOME 

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CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES, WHICH HAD 

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NOTHING TO DO DIRECTLY OR

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 INDIRECTLY WITH THE BENEFIT OF 

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THE FREMONT RESIDENTS.

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THAT IS TIME-CONSUMING, THAT IS 

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CAUSING DIVISION IN THE 

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COMMUNITY, AND CERTAINLY THAT'S 

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NOT THE INTENTION AND NEVER THE 

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PRIORITY OF THIS CITY COUNCIL.

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SO THIS PROPOSAL IS

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 ONCE AGAIN NOT ONLY AS A 

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CONTINUATION OF THE DECISION 

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THAT WE -- OFFICIALLY MADE 

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DURING THE LAST RETREAT, BUT 

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ALSO TRIED TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO

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 ANYONE WHO SOMETIMES DON'T EVEN 

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LIVE IN FREMONT, AND STORM INTO

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 OUR CITY COUNCIL CITY HALL AND

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 TRY TO KIND OF KIDNAP OUR 

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MEETING AGENDA AND TRY TO REALLY 

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FORCE THE CITY TO REALLY MAKE

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 SOME LIP SERVICES, I WOULD SAY, 

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AT BEST TO SOME CONTROVERSIAL 

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ISSUES.

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WHICH IS CERTAINLY NOT

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 WHAT WE WANT TO BECOME, AND 

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THEN -- SO THIS REFERRAL WAS, 

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AGAIN -- HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 

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ALL THE ISSUES THAT CITY 

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COUNCILMEMBER LIU JUST BROUGHT 

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UP AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, THE 

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INTENTION IS TO HELP US FOCUS ON 

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LOCAL ISSUES.

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RATHER THAN, SAY, TAKE A STAND 

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BETWEEN HAMAS OR, YOU KNOW, 

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OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANKS FOR THE 

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CLARIFICATION.

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I THINK YOU MADE CLEAR YOU DON'T 

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WANT TO UNDO ANYTHING, ANY OF 

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THE PREVIOUS POSITIONS.

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>> Councilmember Liu: THAT WAS 

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PRETTY MUCH MY QUESTION.

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>> Mayor Salwan: OKAY, THANK 

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YOU.

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COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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OKAY.

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A COUPLE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SAY 

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IS THAT I REALLY NEED TO SEE 

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WHAT WE COME UP WITH FROM WHAT'S 

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HERE AND WHAT FORMER 

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COUNCILMEMBERS VOTED ON BECAUSE 

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I WASN'T HERE WITH THE FORMER 

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COUNCIL RETREAT SO I'D REALLY 

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NEED TO SEE A LOT MORE HOW THIS 

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ROLLS OUT AND THAT WE WOULD 

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REALLY HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, TEAM 

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WORK AS A NEW COUNCIL TO TALK 

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ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING AND 

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HOW IT'S PRESENTED AND HOW IT 

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WRITTEN.

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I THINK THAT SOMETHING TO 

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REMEMBER IS THAT WE ARE 

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APPOINTED OR ELECTED TO SERVE 

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FREMONT AND THE REGION AND I 

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THINK THAT'S THE INTENTION OF 

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WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, 

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO, RIGHT?

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>> Councilmember Shao: YES.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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OKAY.

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AND FINALLY, I THINK THAT 

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG'S EXAMPLE OF 

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HOW WE'VE HELPED A COMMUNITY 

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THAT HAS HAD PEOPLE HERE, HAVE 

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FAMILIES HERE FROM AROUND THE 

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WORLD AND I THINK THAT WAS A 

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GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW WE'VE 

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PULLED TOGETHER TO HELP MORE 

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THAN REGIONALLY.

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>> Councilmember Shao: RIGHT.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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THAT'S ALL.

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JUST ONE COMMENT, THAT'S IT.

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>> Mayor Salwan: I THINK HE 

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CONFIRMED HE WOULD SUPPORT 

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PROGRAMS LIKE COLLECTING FUNDS 

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FOR AFGHAN REFUGEES OR THINGS 

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LIKE THAT.

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VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: I THINK 

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I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE QUICK 

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COMMENT TOO, THAT WHEN WE WERE 

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GOING THROUGH THIS INTERNATIONAL 

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CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR, 

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IT WAS STATED THAT IT WAS THE 

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WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO NOT 

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INTERFERE WITH INTERNATIONAL 

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MATTERS, AND WE'VE HAD SOME 

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ADDITIONAL EMAILS COME THROUGH 

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TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT WE 

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NEVER REALLY SOLIDIFIED IT IN 

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WRITING.

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SO I THINK WHAT COUNCILMEMBER 

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SHAO IS TRYING TO DO IS TO TAKE 

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WHAT WE SAID VERBALLY AND REALLY 

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JUST SOLIDIFY IT IN A VOTE THAT 

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THIS IS INDEED THE POSITION OF 

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THE COUNCIL AND WE REALLY WANT 

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TO FOCUS REALLY SPECIFICALLY ON 

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LOCAL ISSUES.

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>> THANK YOU.

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COUNCILMEMBER ZHANG.

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>> Councilmember Zhang: THANK 

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YOU.

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SO I JUST WANT TO ASK CLARIFYING 

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QUESTIONS.

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SO WHEN WE SAY THAT I AGREE THAT 

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WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE LOCAL 

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ISSUES AND HELP LOCAL PEOPLE, 

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BUT WHEN IT COMES TO 

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INTERNATIONAL ISSUES, SO AT WHAT 

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OCCASION CAN THIS BE RISING?

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SO I CAN ONLY THINK -- THE 

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OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE IN THE OPEN 

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COMMUNICATION SECTION, RIGHT?

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PEOPLE CAN COME AND TALK ABOUT 

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IT?

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>> Councilmember Shao: OFFICE, 

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THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY, PEOPLE 

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CAN COME AND TALK ABOUT ANYTHING 

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RELATED TO THE CITY OR NOT, BUT 

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WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS THE 

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CITY, AS I SAID, HAS BEEN 

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VISITED BY A LOT OF OUTSIDE 

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ACTIVISTS TRYING TO PUSH THE 

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CITY TO PICK A STAND, A 

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POSITION, IN SOME INTERNATIONAL 

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AFFAIRS.

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WHICH CERTAINLY FIRST OF ALL IS

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 OVEREXPECTATION OF THE 

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PROFESSIONAL ANNUALLY KICK 

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 ANALYTIC

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 ABILITY OF THE CITY 

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COUNCILMEMBERS AND SECONDLY IT 

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IS A DISSERVICE TO THE LOCAL 

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RESIDENTS BECAUSE THAT WOULD 

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DISTRACT THE CITY COUNCIL TO 

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THEN TRY TO STUDY

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 THE INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS 

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RATHER THAN ON FOCUSING ON LOCAL 

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ISSUES.

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SO IN ORDER TO PREVENT THAT 

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THING FROM HAPPENING AGAIN, A 

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POLICY THAT WOULD BE VOTED ON 

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AND AGREED UPON BY CITY 

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COUNCILMEMBERS CANNOT ONLY 

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BENEFIT THIS CITY COUNCIL BULL 

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THE FUTURE CITY COUNCILS TO 

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COME.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: SO MADAM CITY 

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MANAGER, ANY COMMENTS, AND DO 

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YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE 

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DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL IS --

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: YES, I 

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BELIEVE THE DIRECTION IS PRETTY 

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CLEAR THIS EVENING, AND WE WILL 

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DO OUR BEST TO COME BACK WITH A 

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WORK PRODUCT THAT REPRESENTS 

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WHAT WE SEE HERE IN THE REFERRAL 

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AND WHEN THAT ITEM DOES COME 

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BACK, THAT WILL BE AN 

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OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE 

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A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND 

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FINE-TUNE ANY LANGUAGE THAT 

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YOU'D LIKE TO DO AT THAT TIME.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU.

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THIS ITEM WOULD BE MOVED FORWARD 

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AND THEN IT WOULD BE BROUGHT 

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BACK WITH AN AGENDA WITH A 

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FORMAL DISCUSSION AND REPORT 

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FROM STAFF, AND AT THAT POINT 

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WE'LL TAKE FORMAL ACTION WHETHER 

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TO ADOPT IT, AMEND IT, CHANGE 

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IT, AND SO FORTH.

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SO WITH THAT, COUNCILMEMBER 

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SHAO, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE 

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LEAD ON YOUR REFERRAL?

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>> Councilmember Shao: YES, MR. 

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MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A 

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MOTION.

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>> Mayor Salwan: DO I HAVE A 

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SECOND?

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SECONDING -- MOVED BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO, SECONDED BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER ZHANG.

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PLEASE VOTE.

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MOTION PASSES 7-0.

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UNANIMOUS.

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NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 7B, 

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APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND 

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COMMISSIONS.

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO?

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>> Councilmember Shao: I'M VERY 

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GLAD TO ANNOUNCE THAT RIGHT NOW 

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THE ALAMEDA COUNTY STOPWASTE 

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COMMISSION --

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>> Mayor Salwan: EXCUSE ME, I 

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THINK WE HAVE ONE ITEM AHEAD OF 

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THAT.

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THIS IS FOR MY REFERRALS.

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>> Councilmember Shao:

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 SORRY.

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I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

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>> Mayor Salwan: MOVED BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO, SECONDED BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG.

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PLEASE VOTE ON ITEM 7B, 

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APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND 

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COMMISSIONS.

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GREAT.

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MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUS, 7-0.

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WITH THAT, WE'RE NOW INTO 

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LEGISLATIVE UPDATES -- SORRY, 

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COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS.

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SO COUNCILMEMBER SHAO.

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>> Councilmember Shao: SORRY, 

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MR. MAYOR, FOR JUMPING THE GUN.

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I'M VERY GLAD TO ANNOUNCE THAT 

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STOPWASTE, THE COMMISSION IN 

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ALAMEDA COUNTY, RIGHT NOW 

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ACCEPTS NOMINATION FOR ALL 

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CATEGORIES OF AWARDS FOR 

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ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS 

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WHO HAVE DONE GREAT ACHIEVEMENT 

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IN TERMS OF RECYCLING THE TEERM 

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AND LIMITING THE WASTE AND SO ON 

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IN THE

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 PAST, SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS, 

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STUDENT ORGANIZATIONS WERE 

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AWARDEES, SO I ENCOURAGE THE 

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COMMUNITY TO MAKE THE NOMINATION 

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AND SUBMIT TO STOPWASTE.ORG.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mayor Salwan: THANK YOU.

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG, NO?

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OKAY, THAT WAS BEFORE.

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ANY OTHER COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS, 

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COMMITTEE REPORTS?

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EVERYBODY GOT YOUR ASSIGNMENTS, 

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YOU GUYS HAVE STARTED REPORTING 

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TO YOUR AGENCIES?

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EXCELLENT.

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IF NOT, CONNECT WITH THE CITY 

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CLERK.

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GREAT.

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WELL, THANK YOU.

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DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER REPORTS, 

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WITH THAT, WE'LL ADJOURN THE 

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MEETING.

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THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR COMING 

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OUT TODAY.

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I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A GREAT 

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EVENING, AND WE'LL SEE YOU, I 

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GUESS, IN MARCH NOW?

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YEAH.

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OKAY.