19:02:19 NECESSARY TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC 19:02:22 . WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 19:02:26 . COMMISSIONER YEE 19:02:29 , WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THAT. >> Commissioner Yee: SURE 19:02:33 . I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE 19:02:38 FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC 19:02:41 FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION 19:02:45 UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, 19:02:48 WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR 19:02:51 ALL. >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK YOU. 19:02:55 THIS IS A LIVE MEETING I WOULD BE ASKS 19:02:58 THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TO SILENCE THEIR PHONES BUT THIS ONE 19:03:01 IS DIFFERENT SO SECRETARY PULLEN, PLEASE 19:03:04 EXPLAIN TONIGHT'S MEETING. AND PROTOCOL 19:03:08 AND INTRODUCE THE STAFF OF COURSE IF YOU WOULD. 19:03:11 >> Planner Pullen: WILL DO, THANK YOU CHAIR. 19:03:14 THIS MEETING IS BEING CONDUCTED DUE TO 19:03:18 UTILIZING TELECONFERENCING AND ELECTRONIC MEANS CONSISTENT 19:03:22 WITH STATE OF CALIFORNIA, SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE HAS AN 19:03:25 OPEN MIC, STATE OF CALIFORNIA EXECUTIVE 19:03:29 ORDER MARCH 2020 REGARDING IS COVID-19 19:03:32 PANDEMIC. THE BROADCAST CAN BE 19:03:36 VIEWED ON CHANNEL 27 AND OR ONLINE AT 19:03:39 THE LIVE WEBCAST, AT THE CITY'S WEBSITE 19:03:43 , DETAILS CAN BE FOUND AT 19:03:47 FREMONT.GOV/PLANNINGS. 19:03:51 ZOOM'S RAISED HAND FEATURE, THE RECORDING CLERK 19:03:54 WILL RECOGNIZE SPEAKERS DURING ORAL COMMUNICATIONS AND 19:03:57 OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK. E-MAIL COMMENTS SUBMITTED TO THE 19:04:00 CLERK OR THE PLANNERS HAVE BEEN ALREADY PROVIDED 19:04:03 THE COMMISSION PRIOR TO THE MEETING. TO THE EXTENT THAT'S 19:04:07 HAPPED 19:04:10 HAPPENED. WE'LL START TONIGHT COMMISSION ROLL CALL. 19:04:13 WHEN YOU HEAR YOUR NAME PLEASE RESPOND. 19:04:17 CHAIR DAULTON. >> Commissioner Daulton: HERE 19:04:21 . >> Planner Pullen: VICE CHAIR RADIO 19:04:25 RAO, 19:04:28 . >> Commissioner Rao: PRESENT. 19:04:34 >> Planner Pullen: COMMISSIONER STECKLER. >> Commissioner Steckler: 19:04:37 PRESENT. >> Planner Pullen: >> Planner Pullen: 19:04:43 COMMISSIONER LIU, 19:04:46 . >> Commissioner Liu: I'M HERE. >> Planner Pullen: AMOUNT 19:04:49 OUR NEW COMMISSIONER ZHANG. 19:04:52 >> Commissioner Zhang: I'M HERE. 19:04:55 >> Planner Pullen: GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, 19:04:58 COMMISSIONER YONGGANG 19:05:01 ZHANG WAS JUST APPOINTED. WE'LL 19:05:05 HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET HIM. I'D LIKE 19:05:08 TO FIRST START THE MEETING BY INTRODUCING STAFF WHO ARE PARTICIPATING 19:05:11 . MY NAME IS JOEL PULLEN, PLANNING COMMISSION SECRETARY 19:05:15 . JOINING US FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S 19:05:18 OFFICE IS SENIOR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY HEATHER 19:05:21 LEE. AND JOINING US ARE RECORDING 19:05:24 CLERKS, 19:05:28 MARIA SALINAS AND 19:05:32 TRISH CORDOVA. AS I MENTION 19:05:35 ED BEFORE, I'D LIKE TO ASK EVERYONE ON THE CALL 19:05:38 TO GENERALLY MUTE YOUR LINE WHEN YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING, 19:05:42 PLEASE ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME WHEN YOU DO SPEAK, FOR 19:05:45 THOSE WHO ARE NOT ON THE PHONE AND MIGHT NOT 19:05:48 RECOGNIZE YOUR VOICE. AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE SPEAKING 19:05:52 PLEASE ASK TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR PRIOR 19:05:56 TO BEGINNING SPEAKING. BACK TO YOU CHAIR 19:05:58 . >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK YOU JOEL. 19:06:01 BEFORE WE GET INTO THIS EVENING'S 19:06:04 BUSINESS, AS YOU KNOW, KATHY 19:06:08 McDONALD LECHED 19:06:12 LEFT THE COMMISSION, WE 19:06:15 LEFT A SPOT ON THE AGENDA TO 19:06:19 HONOR HER FOR HER YEARS OF SERVICE 19:06:22 . JOEL WILL PRESENT HER WITH 19:06:25 A COMMENDATION. WILL YOU DO THAT 19:06:28 JOEL? >> Planner Pullen: YES, WE'VE HAD 19:06:32 A LOT OF TURNOVER ON THE COMMISSION 19:06:36 . DAN CARDENAS COULD NOT 19:06:39 BE HERE TONIGHT, I PLANNED TO 19:06:42 HONOR HIM AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER McDONALD BUT WE ARE 19:06:45 GOING TO DO THAT IN THE NEXT MEETING IN FEBRUARY 19:06:48 WHEN HE'S AVAILABLE. THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAVE 19:06:52 ALREADY FILLED COMMISSIONER McDONALD'S SEAT WITH THE 19:06:55 NEWEST COMMISSIONER 19:06:58 YONGGANG ZHANG. I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT 19:07:01 ABOUT KATHY AND READ SOMETHING. JUST TO START WITH 19:07:04 , KATHY HAS BEEN HERE 19:07:08 SINCE 2017 AND SERVED FOR JUST ABOUT FIVE YEARS. SO 19:07:11 I'M GOING TO READ SOMETHING HERE. IN PERSON WE WOULD ORDINARILY 19:07:15 COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND SHARE IT 19:07:18 AND TAKE SOME PICTURES AND SIGN IT AFTER THE MEETING 19:07:21 . BUT I'LL HAVE TO SEND THIS AROUND 19:07:24 VIRTUALLY TO SIGN AND GIVE IT TO KATHY 19:07:28 FOR A SMALL MEMENTO 19:07:32 FOR THE TIME SHE SPENT WITH US HERE. 19:07:36 GIVE ME ONE MOMENT. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS A RESOLUTION 19:07:40 OF APPRECIATION AND COMMENDATION FOR 19:07:44 KATHY MCDONALD. WHEREAS THE CITY DID ON 19:07:47 FEBRUARY 7th, 2017, UPON 19:07:51 THE 19:07:54 APPOINTMENT OF THE MAYOR, AND THE COMMISSION 19:07:58 DID REAPPOINT KATHY MCDONALD ON 19:08:02 DECEMBER, 2020, AND SHE 19:08:05 SERVED IN THE 2021. FOR A 19:08:08 FULL LENGTH OF SERVICE OF FOUR MONTHS 19:08:13 YEARS AND FIVE MONTHS AND 19:08:16 21 DAYS. KATHY 19:08:19 MCDONALD HAS SERVED WITH DILIGENCE DURING HER 19:08:22 TENURE, REVIEWING DOCUMENTS THOROUGHLY 19:08:26 , CONSISTENTLY ADVOCATING FOR 19:08:31 IMPROVEMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL 19:08:34 , RESIDENTIAL AND PUBLIC PROJECTS. WHEREAS KATHY HAS SERVED 19:08:37 THE COMMUNITY WITH DISTINCTION IN A VARIETY OF CAPACITIES 19:08:40 SUCH AS VOLUNTEERING AT THE 19:08:43 TRI-CITIES ANIMAL SHERL, PREPARING FOOD 19:08:47 AT ABODE SERVICES, BEING A MEMBER 19:08:50 OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND SERVING FOOD WITH THE PROGRAM 19:08:53 THREE TIMES A WEEK, THAT'S A LOT OF HARD WORK. WHEREAS KATHY IS 19:08:56 A LONG TIME RESIDENT IN FREMONT, 19:08:59 WHEREAS SHE PARTICIPATED IN NUMEROUS 19:09:03 OPPORTUNITIES INCLUDING 19:09:07 FREMONT UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, 19:09:11 AND WHEREAS KATHY HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL 19:09:14 IN ADVOCATING FOR 19:09:18 HOLELESS AND FOR THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT. 19:09:21 NOW THEREFORE BIFT, THE 19:09:25 FREMONT PLANNING COMMISSION EXPRESSES ITS SINCERE 19:09:28 APPRECIATION TO KATHY MCDONALD FOR HER SERVICE 19:09:30 IN THE COMMISSION. BEFORE WE GET INTO THE 19:09:34 COMMISSION'S COMMENTS AND ANYTHING SANTA KATHY MIGHT WANT TO SAY, I JUST 19:09:37 WANT TO SAY KATHY LIKE SOME FOLKS 19:09:40 I KNOW HAS REALLY TAKEN HER SERVICE 19:09:43 TO THE COMMISSION TO A HIGH LEVEL 19:09:46 . AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE EXTENT OF HER 19:09:49 SORT OF CONNECTION WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH THE 19:09:53 PROFESSIONAL DUTIES, I RECALL NOT TOO LONG AGO ON 19:09:56 THE WEEKEND, YOU KNOW, GETTING A CALL FROM KATHY, WHILE 19:09:59 SHE WAS BIKING IN PART OF TOWN AND 19:10:02 SAYING, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING THAT BIKING TO, 19:10:06 YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING ON IN TOWN SAYING, YOU KNOW, I HAVE 19:10:09 AN IDEA. YOU KNOW, SO KATHY IS THAT 19:10:12 KIND OF PERSONAL WHERE SHE CARED, YOU KNOW? 19:10:15 YOU COULD SHOW UP AT THE COMMISSION AND MAKE A DECISION 19:10:18 AND GO ON BUT KATHY WAS LIVING IT AND CONNECTING HOW 19:10:21 HER SERVICE IS ALSO BETTERING HER COMMUNITY 19:10:24 AND I APPRECIATE IT. BACK TO YOU CHAIR. >> Commissioner Daulton: YES 19:10:27 , THAT'S GREAT JOEL. I'D LIKE TO SORT OF OPEN 19:10:30 THE FLOOR TO THE -- TO MY FELLOW 19:10:34 COMMISSIONERS, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT REGARDING 19:10:39 COMMISSIONER, EX 19:10:42 -COMMISSIONER McDONALD'S SERVICE TO THE CITY OF FREMONT 19:10:45 IS MOST WELCOME. I CAN START. I 19:10:48 CAN SAY, I MEAN, KATHY RAN 19:10:52 FOR CITY COUNCIL, I BELIEVE. AND ON TOP OF 19:10:55 ALL THAT OTHER GOOD STUFF. I THINK SHE DID IT AS 19:10:58 A FAVOR TO A FRIEND. IT WAS LIKE WOW 19:11:02 ! KATHY, I WILL MISS YOU HERE ENTIRELY, 19:11:05 AND I MEAN THAT SINCERELY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO 19:11:09 DO. [ Laughter ] BUT 19:11:13 I REALLY WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN 19:11:16 YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS AND I KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE 19:11:19 SUNNY, WARM AND SORT OF SAILING AROUND. 19:11:22 YEAH. SO CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DID FOR ME 19:11:25 AND FOR FREMONT. 19:11:29 BEN, CHAIR RECOGNIZES BEN YEE 19:11:31 . >> Commissioner Yee: THANK YOU CHAIR. 19:11:34 YEAH, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN WITH KATHY 19:11:37 . I'VE KNOWN HER A LONG TIME AS WELL 19:11:41 . ALWAYS JUST LIKE A FELLOW NEIGHBOR JUST DOWN 19:11:44 THE ROAD IN THE SAME AREA OF TOWN. AND I'M 19:11:48 ALSO GOING TO MISS HER TOO SHE'S A 19:11:51 FELLOW CYCLIST JUST LIKE ME. SHE GOES ALL OVER 19:11:55 THE CITY EXPLORING. I NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY 19:11:58 GO RIDINGS WITH HER. NOW I'M KIND OF REGRETTING I 19:12:01 COULD HAVE DONE THAT SOONER. BUT ONE OF THE 19:12:04 THINGS I MOST ADMIRE BY I'LL SAY IT 19:12:08 STILL COMMISSIONER McDONALD IS THE PRO FORMAISM AND 19:12:11 HER EXPERTISE SHE 19:12:15 BRINGS -- THE IS 19:12:17 PROFESSIONALISM AND HER EXPERTISE SHE BRINGS TO THE 19:12:20 COMMISSION. THE DETAILS SHE BRINGS TO ALL 19:12:22 THE FREMONT RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 19:12:25 SO I JUST WANTED TO ECHO EVERYBODY 19:12:28 ELSE'S THOUGHTS THAT YOU BRING A LOT TO THE CITY AND WE'RE 19:12:31 GOING TO MISS YOU. 19:12:45 >> Commissioner Daulton: COMMISSIONER ZHANG. 19:12:48 >> Commissioner Zhang: THANK YOU CHAIR. I NEVER MEET YOU IN PERSON BUT 19:12:51 I HEARD YOU A LOT, ESPECIALLY THE THINGS 19:12:54 YOU'VE DONE IN THE SCHOOL BOARD. IT IS AN 19:12:58 HONOR TO BE APPOINTED TO CONTINUE YOUR WORK IN THE BOARD. 19:13:01 HOPEFULLY I WON'T LET YOU DOWN 19:13:04 . YEAH, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU 19:13:08 . THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. 19:13:11 >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK YOU, 19:13:18 COMMISSIONER RAO. >> Commissioner Rao: THANK YOU, 19:13:22 CHAIR DAULTON. I ECHO WHAT CHAIR DAULTON AND 19:13:26 WHAT CONNIE MENTIONED ABOUT KATHY. 19:13:29 WE ARE ALL GOING TO -- I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHERS, BUT 19:13:32 I'M GOING TO MISS HER, I'LL MISS THE WALKS WITH HER AND 19:13:35 I'LL ALSO MISS ALL THE DISCUSSIONS I HAD WITH HER AND 19:13:39 HER EXPERTISE FOR THE COMMISSION IS TRULY GOING 19:13:41 TO BE MISSED. THANK YOU KATHY FOR YOUR SERVICE 19:13:44 AND HOPE TO KEEP ON MEETING YOU OTHERWISE, TOO 19:13:48 . THANK YOU. 19:13:52 >> Commissioner Daulton: COMMISSIONER LIU. >> Commissioner Liu: YES 19:13:55 , I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH COMMISSIONER McDONALD 19:13:58 'S PROFESSIONALISM AND 19:14:01 HER DETAILED QUESTIONING OF ALL THE 19:14:04 PROJECTS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO HER, TO US. 19:14:07 AND SHE ALWAYS ASKED VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTIONS AND 19:14:10 SHE CERTAINLY HAD PUSHED FOR THE CAUSES 19:14:14 THAT SHE BELIEVES IN, THE BIKE LANES AND 19:14:17 THE BIKE PARKING AND ALL THESE VARIOUS PROJECTS. 19:14:21 AND SHE'S DONE A VERY GOOD JOB FOR OUR COMMUNITY 19:14:24 . AND BEST WISHES TO YOU, KATHY. 19:14:29 >> Commissioner Daulton: NICELY SAID, ALL. 19:14:33 THANK YOU FOR THAT. 19:14:38 SO WE'RE GOING TO JOIN OUR REGULARLY 19:14:42 SCHEDULED MEETING, UNLESS 19:14:45 KATHY, IF YOU WANT TO 19:14:49 SAY SOMETHING? >> Commissioner McDonald: 19:14:52 YES, DON'T I ALWAYS? >> Commissioner Daulton: YES 19:14:55 . >> Commissioner McDonald: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU EVERYONE. 19:14:58 IT'S TRULY BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO 19:15:01 SERVE YOU ALL, THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY. 19:15:04 I'VE LIVED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PLACES AS I'VE MENTIONED 19:15:07 NUMEROUS TIMES. AND I'VE NEVER BEEN SO 19:15:11 INVOLVED IN A CITY, NEVER FOUND SUCH A PROGRESSIVE 19:15:15 PLACE TO LIVE. AND I DON'T THINK I'VE 19:15:18 EVER LEARNED SO MUCH IN 19:15:22 THE SPAN OF LIVING IN A PLACE. LEARNED ABOUT 19:15:25 FREMONT, LEARNED ABOUT THE PEOPLE, AND 19:15:28 THE SPECIAL UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES THAT EACH ONE OF 19:15:31 YOU HAS BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION 19:15:34 AND TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY. 19:15:41 SO I FEEL KIND OF -- IT'S 19:15:44 SAD FOR ME TO LEAVE BECAUSE I FINALLY FEEL YOU 19:15:47 KNOW JUST A MODICUM 19:15:51 OF 19:15:55 COMPETENCE OF WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING AND I KIND OF FEEL 19:15:59 I FOUND MY VOICE AND AN ABILITY TO YOU KNOW SPEAK 19:16:02 . THE THINGS THAT 19:16:06 I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT. SO IT HAS 19:16:09 BEEN WONDERFUL. I WILL MISS ALL OF YOU. I 19:16:13 WISH NEW 19:16:20 COMMISSIONER ZHANG ALL THE LUCK MOVING FORWARD. WE'VE HAD SOME 19:16:23 VERY HEATED DISCUSSIONS AND IT WAS TRULY A 19:16:26 LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME AND I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST. 19:16:29 IF YOU GUYS ARE IN RENO ANY TIME COME ON BY 19:16:32 . I'LL SERVE YOU A DRINK. SO GOOD 19:16:35 LUCK, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE HONOR OF SERVE 19:16:38 ING WITH YOU. >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK 19:16:41 YOU, COMMISSIONER, VERY PROUD TO CALL YOU MY FRIEND 19:16:44 AND I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU UP ON THAT OFFER IN RENO 19:16:47 . DEFINITELY. >> Commissioner McDonald: ANY 19:16:52 TIME. SO MAYBE YOU'LL 19:16:55 WANT TO BIKE UP! 19:16:57 >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT, SOUNDS GOOD. 19:17:00 ALL RIGHT. ON WE GO, THEN. 19:17:08 SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO SETS OF MINUTES 19:17:12 IN THE PACKET FOR REVIEW. SO IF I CAN GET 19:17:15 A MOTION FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO APPROVE MINUTES. 19:17:21 >> Commissioner Steckler: SO MOVE. 19:17:24 >> Commissioner Daulton: AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> Commissioner Yee: 19:17:27 I'LL SECOND. >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY. 19:17:30 JOEL I THINK CAN YOU CALL THE VOTE ON THAT PLEASE 19:17:33 . >> Planner Pullen: ON A MOTION 19:17:36 BY COMMISSIONER STECKLER, SECONDED BY CONNIE 19:17:40 COMMISSIONER YEE, PLEASE VOTE WHEN YOU HEAR 19:17:44 YOUR NAME. CHAIR DAULTON, AYE. 19:17:47 VICE CHAIR 19:17:50 RAO, AYE. 19:17:53 COMMISSIONER YEE, AYE. COMMISSIONER STECKLER 19:17:56 , AYE. COMMISSIONER LIU, 19:18:00 AYE AND NEW COMMISSIONER ZHANG 19:18:03 . AYE. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. 19:18:06 BACK TO YOU 19:18:11 COMMISSIONER. >> Commissioner Daulton: NOW WE HAVE 19:18:15 ANY DISCLOSURES REGARDING ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA 19:18:18 . I HAVE THREE DISCLOSURES. I VISITED 19:18:21 ALL THREE SITES. I WALKED 19:18:25 THE SITE 19:18:30 OF THE WAREHOUSES AND I SPOKE TO 19:18:33 THE NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES REGARDING 19:18:38 THE KARAOKE BUSINESS. 19:18:44 CRAIG. >> Commissioner Steckler: YES, I RAISED MY 19:18:48 HAND, FIRST LET ME SAY THAT I 19:18:51 DID VISIT ALL THREE SITES. I ALSO WALKED ONE OF 19:18:55 THEM. BUT I RAISE MY HANT TO SEE 19:18:58 HAND TO SEE IF THERE IS A TECHNICAL REASON 19:19:01 THAT WE COULD NOT MOVE ITEM 2 TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR 19:19:04 . SO JOEL, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT FOR 19:19:07 ME? 19:19:11 >> Planner Pullen: WE ORDINARILY DON'T HAVE 19:19:14 A CONSENT CALENDAR ANY LONGER. THAT'S 19:19:17 NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD FOR SOME TIME AND 19:19:20 THERE'S SOME LEGAL REASONS WHY WE CHOSE TO CHANGE THAT. 19:19:24 WE ARE RECOMMENDING A CONTINUANCE. 19:19:27 BUT BECAUSE THE ITEM'S BEEN CALENDARED, THE COMMISSION NEEDS 19:19:31 TO TAKE A VOTE. NOW BECAUSE IT'S BEEN CONTINUED 19:19:34 AND THAT'S THE MESSAGE TO THE APPLICANT 19:19:37 , AS WELL AS INTERESTED PARTIES WHO 19:19:40 WOULD HAVE SHOWN UP IN SUPPORT OR AGAINST 19:19:43 THE PROJECT, THAT'S SORT OF A ROUTINE 19:19:47 ITEM TO PUSH IT TO THE NEXT MEETING. >> Commissioner Steckler: 19:19:49 THANK YOU. >> Planner Pullen: SO IT 19:19:54 DOESN'T MEAN TO BE HANDLED. >> Commissioner Steckler: THAT'S ALL I HAVE 19:19:57 COMMISSIONER. >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT, 19:20:02 THANK YOU COMMISSIONER STECKLER. COMMISSIONER YEE 19:20:05 ANY DISCLOSURES? 19:20:08 >> Commissioner Yee: I GUESS SINCE THE FIRST ONE'S BEING 19:20:12 TABLED, I ACTUALLY WENT TO ALL THREE SITES 19:20:15 , SPOKE TO A NUMBER OF THE BUSINESSES AT ALL THREE LOCATIONS 19:20:18 AS WELL. >> Commissioner Daulton: COMMISSIONER LIU. 19:20:21 >> Commissioner Liu: I VISITED ALL THREE SITES ALSO AND 19:20:24 SPOKE WITH THE NEIGHBORS 19:20:27 OF -- NEXT TO THE ALL THREE SITES. 19:20:34 >> Commissioner Daulton: COMMISSIONER ZHANG. 19:20:37 >> Commissioner Zhang: I DIDN'T VISIT THE SITES BECAUSE I 19:20:40 GOT THE MESSAGE YESTERDAY BUT I MADE A PHONE CALL 19:20:44 TO THE RESTAURANT NEXT TO THE KARAOKE SITE JUST TO CONFIRM THAT THEY 19:20:48 ARE ALREADY SELLING BEERS OR NOT. 19:20:51 I DIDN'T EXPOSE MY IDENTITY. 19:20:54 YES, THAT'S ALL I NEED. >> Commissioner Daulton: 19:20:58 AND COMMISSIONER RAO. >> Commissioner Rao: I JUST 19:21:02 DROVE BY ALL THESE SITES. THAT'S IT. JUST DROVE BY 19:21:03 . >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT. 19:21:08 SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE A CONSENT CALENDAR ANYMORE, WE 19:21:12 CAN SKIP MERRILY PAST THAT 19:21:15 ONE AND GO ON TO THE PUBLIC AND ORAL COMMUNICATIONS. 19:21:18 SO I'D LIKE TO OPEN THAT PORTION OF OUR MEETING. 19:21:21 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING NOT ON 19:21:24 TONIGHT'S AGENDA, 19:21:28 PLEASE VIRTUALLY RAISE YOUR HAND NOW. OR 19:21:31 STAR 9 ON THE PHONE AND EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE TWO 19:21:34 MINUTES TONIGHT. WE'LL PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND ASK 19:21:37 THE RECORDING CLERK TRISH 19:21:40 CORDOVA IF ANYONE HAS RAISED 19:21:43 THEIR HAND FOR ORAL COMMUNICATIONS. 19:21:46 TRISH. >> CHAIR DAULTON, I 19:21:49 DON'T SEE ANY RAISED HANDS, NO ONE ASKING 19:21:51 TO SPEAK. >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL 19:21:54 RIGHT, IN THAT CASE I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC 19:21:57 HEARING AND MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. WE 19:22:00 STILL I BELIEVE FORMALLY HAVE THREE 19:22:03 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, IS THAT RIGHT JOEL 19:22:07 ? >> Planner Pullen: THAT'S CORRECT, WE DO HAVE THREE ITEMS 19:22:10 ON THE AGENDA. THE FIRST ONE OBVIOUSLY I'M GOING TO MENTION 19:22:13 HERE BRIEFLY. WHAT DO YOU CALL IT THAT HAS 19:22:17 BEEN CONTINUED. BUT YES, THE THREE ITEMS ON 19:22:20 THE AGENDA TO ADDRESS. >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY 19:22:23 SO IF THAT ONE'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED THEN SHOULD WE MOVE 19:22:26 TO STAFF PRESENTATION ON THE SECOND ITEM 19:22:30 ? 19:22:33 >> Planner Pullen: LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ THE ITEM AND THEN 19:22:36 WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO CLARIFICATION 19:22:40 S, IT'S STILL ON THE AGENDA SO WE 19:22:43 DO NEED TO TREAT IT LIKE A REGULAR ITEM BUT I THINK 19:22:47 IT WILL BE FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD TO JUST VOTE ON 19:22:49 IT. >> Commissioner Daulton: YES. 19:22:52 >> JOEL YOU SAID IF THERE IS SOMEBODY TO SPEAK ON WHETHER IT WOULD BE 19:22:55 CONTINUED THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY POINT OF ISSUE. 19:22:56 >> Planner Pullen: FAIR ENOUGH. 19:23:02 SO CHAIR DAULTON I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE FIRST ITEM, IT IS 19:23:06 THE ALBRAE INDUSTRIAL 19:23:10 REZONING. 40 19:23:13 517 ALBRAE STREET 19:23:16 . TO CONSIDER A 19:23:19 GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT (REGIONAL COMMERCIAL TO TECH INDUSTRIAL), 19:23:21 REZONING (FROM PRELIMINARY AND PRECISE PLANNED DISTRICT P-2006-10, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS 19:23:24 THE GLOBE, TO PRELIMINARY AND PRECISE PLANNED DISTRICT 19:23:27 P-2021-160), TENTATIVE PARCEL 19:23:29 MAP, AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ASSESSMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A 19:23:32 THREE-BUILDING INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT TOTALING 397,000 19:23:38 SQUARE FEET ON 22.4 ACRES 19:23:42 LOCATED ON ALBRAE STREET IN THE 19:23:46 BAY SIDE INDUSTRIAL COMMUNITY PLAN 19:23:49 AREA. TO CONSIDER 19:23:52 AN ADDENDUM TO THE 19:23:56 PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORTS 19:23:58 PREPARED FOR A PRIOR REDESIGNATION OF THE SITE AND 19:24:01 THE GLOBE PLANNED DISTRICT PURSUANT TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT 19:24:05 THERE WERE FLOWS THAT 19:24:09 SAID THE MATTER NEEDED TO BE 19:24:13 CONTINUED, TO GIVE NEIGHBORS THE OPPORTUNITY 19:24:16 TO DO THAT. AS ATTORNEY NOTES, IF SOMEONE 19:24:19 IS HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT IT WE WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN THAT BUT I 19:24:22 JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR IT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE TO 19:24:26 HEAR THIS ITEM TONIGHT 19:24:29 FOR ANY OTHER RESULT OTHER THAN TO CONTINUE WITHOUT 19:24:32 THE APPLICANT AND POTENTIAL OTHER SPEAKERS PRESENT BECAUSE THEY 19:24:35 WERE AWARE OF THE CONTINUANCE. >> Commissioner Daulton: 19:24:39 FAIR ENOUGH JOEL. DO YOU WANT TO 19:24:42 VOTE FOR THIS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO CONTINUE THE ITEM, IS THAT HOW WE 19:24:44 PROCEED? >> Planner Pullen: I WOULD 19:24:47 OPEN IT TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY SPEAKERS FIRST AS HEATHER 19:24:50 MENTIONED. 19:24:54 >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY SO HEATHER DO WE HAVE ANY 19:24:57 SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? 19:25:00 >> CHAIR DAULTON I DO SEE ONE RAISED HAND 19:25:03 PERSON ASKING TO SPEAK. SO LET ME GO AHEAD 19:25:07 TO INTRODUCE THAT, 19:25:11 TIM LIPSCO 19:25:14 M. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. >> MY NAME IS 19:25:17 TIM LIPSCOM. THANKS FOR KEEPING 19:25:20 US FILLED IN ON THE PROJECT. I'M A RESIDENT 19:25:24 OF FREMONT FOR OVER 60 YEARS, I'M A PRODUCT 19:25:27 OF FREMONT UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, I'M A RETIRED CARPENTER WHO 19:25:30 BOUGHT A HOUSE HERE IN FREMONT 31 YEARS AGO AS 19:25:33 A THIRD YEAR APPRENTICE. WE USED TO BE 19:25:36 ABLE TO WORK HERE REGULARLY ON LOCAL 19:25:40 CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS BUT I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT CULTURE IS DEAD. 19:25:44 IT PEOPLES LIKE WE'VE BEEN SOLD OUT TO DEVELOPMENT AND 19:25:47 NEED TO TURN THE BIGGEST PROFIT POSSIBLE BY 19:25:50 UNDERCUTTING WORKERS IN FREMONT 19:25:53 . OUR CITY LEADERS FAILED TO 19:25:55 HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A CHANCE ON 19:25:59 THE 24th. IS 19:26:02 THERE (INAUDIBLE) -- >> I'M SORRY TIM 19:26:06 THIS IS TRISH, YOUR VOICE IS -- YOUR VOICE 19:26:09 IS COMING IN AND OUT TIM, IF YOU COULD REPEAT THAT 19:26:13 ? >> OKAY 19:26:16 , I'M -- THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW THAT 19:26:19 . I'M AN INDUSTRY ADVISOR 19:26:22 TO THE MISSION VALLEY ROP HERE IN FREMONT. 19:26:25 THE CARPET 19:26:31 CARPENTERS UNION HAS A RIGHT 19:26:35 RIGHT, RIGHT TO WORK UPON GRADUATION, TO USE 19:26:38 THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR YOUTH HERE IN FREMONT AND HOW DO WE DO 19:26:41 THAT? BY PUTTING THOSE REQUIREMENTS 19:26:45 INTO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. ESPECIALLY 19:26:49 WHEN DEVELOPERS LIKE SKINEL 19:26:52 L DEVELOPERS ARE ASKING FOR BENEFITS. NOT JUST TO DEVELOPERS IN 19:26:55 HIGH TECH BUSINESSES. 19:26:58 SKINNEL HAS MADE NO COMMITMENT TO HIRING 19:27:02 LOCAL RESIDENTS, ENSURING CONTRACTORS PAY THE AREA 19:27:05 STANDARD WAGES AND PROVIDING HEALTH CARE BENEFITS IN 19:27:08 THESE (INAUDIBLE) 19:27:11 HERE IN FREMONT. THIS PROJECT WILL BE A 19:27:15 COMPLETE FAILURE FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AS WAS THE 19:27:19 OVERTON 19:27:22 MOORE PACIFIC COMMONS DEVELOPMENT HERE IN FREMONT 19:27:25 . IT SUPPLIED PLENTY OF LOW PAID 19:27:28 JOBS FOR WORKERS FROM THE 19:27:32 SOUTH BUT NONE FOR THE VALLEY. THIS PROJECT 19:27:35 SHOULD BE REJECTED IF AND WHEN IT COMES UP 19:27:39 OR WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM CAN SIT DOWN 19:27:42 WITH THE LOCAL CARPENTERS, AND 19:27:45 MAKE REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOCAL 19:27:49 APPRENTICES, PAY THE AREA 19:27:53 STANDARD WAGES AND BENEFITS. WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PRODUCE 19:27:55 THE NEXT GENERATION OF CONSTRUCTION WORKERS OR WE'RE 19:27:58 GOING TO WATCH OR INFRASTRUCTURE CRUMBLE 19:28:01 IN THE U.S. DUE TO LACK OF TRAINED AND QUALIFIED EXPERIENCED 19:28:05 CONSTRUCTION WORKERS. THE CITIZENS OF FREMONT ARE 19:28:08 ASKING THE COMMISSION TO DO THE RIGHT THING ON BEHALF OF 19:28:11 CONSTRUCTION WORKERS IN FREMONT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH 19:28:14 . >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK YOU SIR. 19:28:18 IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS THEN I'LL CLOSE 19:28:22 THE ORAL COMMUNICATIONS ON THIS ITEM. 19:28:24 AND -- >> Planner Pullen: I BELIEVE 19:28:27 THERE IS ONE MORE, CHAIR. AND WE NEGLECTED TO 19:28:30 START THE TIMER. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 19:28:33 THREE MINUTES AND SO USUALLY WE WOULD GIVE THREE 19:28:36 MINUTES FOR THESE BARRING A LARGE GROUP. IF YOU COULD SHARE 19:28:39 THE TIMER -- OH, I SAW DANIEL 19:28:42 GREG'S HAND RAISED AND THEN I SAW IT PUT DOWN 19:28:46 . NOW IT'S BACK RAISED. OKAY GO AHEAD. 19:28:49 >> HI THIS IS TRISH AGAIN SO I WILL GO AHEAD 19:28:52 AND CHAIR DAULTON GIVE DANIEL PERMISSION TO SPEAK. 19:28:55 JUST ONE MOMENT WHILE I DO THAT. >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK 19:28:58 YOU. >> DANIEL I'VE PROMOTED YOU TO SPEAK SO 19:29:02 GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. YOU'VE BEEN UNMUTED PLEASE. >> CAN 19:29:05 YOU GUYS HEAR ME? >> YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU 19:29:07 THANK YOU DANIEL. >> GOOD EVENING CHAIR, MEMBERS 19:29:10 OF THE FREMONT PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU FOR 19:29:13 GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. MY NAME IS DANIEL 19:29:16 GREG, I'M THE SENIOR FIELD REPRESENTATIVE AT 19:29:19 CARPENTERS LOCAL 213 19:29:22 HERE IN ALAMEDA COUNTY. I REPRESENT CARPENTERS HERE IN 19:29:25 ALAMEDA COUNTY. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SIGNIFICANT CONCESSION FROM THE 19:29:28 CITY. A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND A 19:29:31 REZONING FROM REGIONAL TO COMMERCIAL TECH INDUSTRIAL. 19:29:35 REZONING TO SUCH A HIGH DENSITY USE 19:29:38 WHILE CERTAINLY BIRNL 19:29:41 BENEFICIAL TO THE DEVELOPER SHOULD BRING BENEFITS TO THE 19:29:44 LOCAL COMMUNITY INCLUDING LOCAL WORKERS 19:29:48 . INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BEING CONTEMPLATED HERE, DOCUMENT 19:29:51 ED HISTORY OF NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON LOCAL COMMUNITIES. 19:29:54 THE WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION INDUSTRY IS KNOWN 19:29:57 FOR BRINGING INCREASED POLLUTION, INCREASED TRUCK TRAFFIC AND 19:30:01 INCREDIBLE STRAIN ON EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. 19:30:04 CONSTRUCTION OF WAREHOUSE AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS IS 19:30:07 AN INDUSTRY WITH A DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF ATTRACT 19:30:10 ING LOW ROAD CONTRACTORS SUCH 19:30:13 AS CLACO AND THE LIST GOES 19:30:17 ON AND ON. THE DEVELOPER HAS MADE NO COMMITMENTS 19:30:20 TO HIRING LOCAL RESIDENTS, TRAINING LOCAL APPRENTICE 19:30:24 S OR ENSURING TO 19:30:26 PAY LOCAL BENEFITS AND HEALTH CARE BENEFITS. 19:30:29 THE ONLY BENEFIT 19:30:33 THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDING THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND 19:30:36 OF EVERY APPLICANT, IS A PALTRY 19:30:40 $500,000 PAYMENT FOR THUS FAR UNDESCRIBED 19:30:43 CITY INITIATIVES. GIVEN ROORMS THAT AMAZON IS 19:30:46 A POTENTIAL TENANT, 19:30:50 $500,000 IS A PAM TRI SUM OF 19:30:53 COMPARED TO AMAZON 19:30:57 'S MARKET CAP. THE CITY GIVING THEM 19:31:00 A LUCRATIVE REZONE, GUARANTEE IS INCREASE 19:31:03 ED TRUCK TRAFFIC, DAMAGED 19:31:06 INFRASTRUCTURE AND A PROJECT THAT IS LIKELY TO ATTRACT AN OUT 19:31:11 OF AREA CONSTRUCTION FORCE, THAT WILL BE PAID OUT OF 19:31:14 AREA WAGES. THE CITY HAS SET FOR A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, 19:31:17 THE PROJECT W WILL NOT FURTHER THE 19:31:21 GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS. THE PROJECT SHOULD BE REJECT 19:31:24 ED ABSENT SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED COMMUNITY BENEFITS INCLUDING A 19:31:27 REQUIREMENT THAT THE APPLICANT AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM MAKE A COMMITMENT TO 19:31:30 FOSTER OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOCAL APPRENTICES 19:31:34 , UTILIZE CONTRACTORS TO PLAY AREA 19:31:37 STANDARD WAGES AND BENEFITS, HEALTH CARE AND MAKE A COMMITMENT 19:31:40 TO HIRING A LOCAL AREA WORKFORCE. THANK YOU. 19:31:41 >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK YOU SIR. 19:31:48 I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS NOW 19:31:51 . IF THERE'S NO OTHER SPEAKERS. 19:31:55 AND IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION TO THAT, WE CAN TAKE A VOTE 19:31:58 ON CONTINUING THIS TO OUR NEXT MEETING. 19:32:02 JOEL. ANY OBJECTIONS 19:32:06 COMMISSIONERS? >> Planner Pullen: NOW WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO 19:32:09 TAKE A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION, YES 19:32:12 . >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO 19:32:17 CONTINUE. >> Commissioner Yee: MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE 19:32:20 . >> Commissioner Liu: SECOND 19:32:23 . >> JOEL, YOU WANT TO SPECIFY THE DATE TO 19:32:26 WHICH IT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED. >> Commissioner Daulton: 19:32:30 I BELIEVE THAT'S THE -- 19:32:33 >> JOEL YOU'RE MUTED. >> Planner Pullen: APOLOGY. 19:32:36 COMMISSIONER, CHAIR DAULTON HAS IT CORRECT, THE 19:32:39 24th. 19:32:45 >> Commissioner Yee: THEN I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO CONTINUE IT TO THE 24th 19:32:50 . >> Commissioner Liu: I SECOND. >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL 19:32:52 RIGHT WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. >> Planner Pullen: ALL RIGHT 19:32:55 ON A MOTION BY I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER LIU 19:32:59 AND SECONDED BY 19:33:02 COMMISSIONER YEE. >> OTHER WAY AROUND 19:33:04 . >> OTHER WAY AROUND. >> Planner Pullen: I WAS 19:33:08 LISTENING, AND DIDN'T HEAR THE RIGHT ORDER 19:33:12 . >> Commissioner Yee: NEXT TIME I'LL MAKE SURE I USE MY NAME 19:33:15 . >> Planner Pullen: WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME PLEASE STATE 19:33:17 YOUR VOTE. CHAIR DAULTON. 19:33:20 YES. VICE CHAIR RAO 19:33:23 . AYE. COMMISSIONER YEE, AYE 19:33:27 . COMMISSIONER STECKLER. AYE. 19:33:30 COMMISSIONER LIU. AYE. 19:33:31 AND COMMISSIONER ZHANG. AYE. 19:33:36 ALL RIGHT, IT'S A UNANIMOUS VOTE. THE PROJECT 19:33:39 HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO THE FEBRUARY 24th, 20 19:33:42 22 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. AND SO ANYBODY WHO'S INTEREST 19:33:45 ED IN TALKING ABOUT THAT ITEM PLEASE COME TO 19:33:49 THAT HEARING. AND WE'LL MAKE A -- AND WE'LL HAVE A 19:33:52 THOROUGH HEARING. BACK TO YOU CHAIR. >> Commissioner Daulton: 19:33:55 THANK YOU, JOEL. I BELIEVE WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR 19:33:58 NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. THE PAPE, AM I 19:34:02 SAYING THAT CORRECTLY, PAPE MACHINERY PYLON 19:34:05 SIGNS UP. >> Planner Pullen: SO I'LL 19:34:09 READ THE TITLE CHAIR. THE PAPE MACHINERY PYLON 19:34:13 SIGN C.U.P. IS TO CONSIDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 19:34:16 TO INSTALL A 19:34:19 FREEWAY-ORIENTED PYLON SIGN ADJACENT TO INTERSTATE 680 19:34:22 LOCATED AT 43510 OSGOOD ROAD IN 19:34:25 THE IRVINGTON COMMUNITY PLAN AREA, AND TO CONSIDER A FINDING 19:34:29 OF CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL 19:34:32 QUALITY ACT (CEQA) PURSUANT TO CEQA GUIDELINES SECTIONS 15311 19:34:37 AND 15183. AND TONIGHT THE 19:34:40 PROJECT PLANNER FOR THIS ITEM IS JAMES WILLIS AND HE'S 19:34:43 HERE AND AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. 19:34:46 THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE 19:34:49 AND GETS TEN MINUTES TO GIVE A PRESENTATION 19:34:53 . FOLLOWED BY ORAL COMMUNICATION FROM THE PUBLIC, AT A 19:34:57 TIME LIMIT SPECIFIED BY THE CHAIR DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER 19:35:00 OF SPEAKERS, FOLLOWED BY A FIVE MINUTE REBUTTAL 19:35:03 FROM THE APPLICANT IF NECESSARY. BACK TO YOU CHAIR. 19:35:10 >> Commissioner Daulton: SO DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS 19:35:13 JOEL? 19:35:17 >> Planner Pullen: JAMES IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS 19:35:20 AND HE ALSO HAS MATERIALS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM. >> Commissioner Daulton: 19:35:23 ALL RIGHT, I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY 19:35:27 QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. 19:35:30 ANYONE? COMMISSIONER YEE, PLEASE. 19:35:35 >> Commissioner Yee: YES, JAMES. I'M JUST CURIOUS 19:35:38 , I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK WHO'S ACTUALLY 19:35:41 THE OWNER OF THAT LAND, WHERE THIS 19:35:45 PROPOSED BILLBOARD SIGN IS GOING TO BE LOCATED 19:35:48 ? >> PAPE OWNS THE ENTIRE LOT. THEIR DEALERSHIP 19:35:52 IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND THIS IS NOT 19:35:55 A BILLBOARD SIGN. THIS IS A SIGN SPECIFICALLY TO 19:35:58 ADVERTISE THE PAPE EQUIPMENT DEALERSHIP. 19:36:04 >> Commissioner Yee: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> Commissioner Daulton: 19:36:08 RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONER ZHANG. >> Commissioner Zhang: THANK 19:36:11 YOU CHAIR. I JUST LOOK AT THE GOOGLE MA'AM. 19:36:15 MAP. 19:36:18 IT SEEMS TO ME FROM THE INTERSECTION OF 6 19:36:21 80 TO MILPITAS OR SOMEWHERE, NEVER 19:36:24 KIND OF ADVERTISING SIGN ALONG THE 680. IS 19:36:27 THAT THE CASE? AT LEAST FOR ME, I HAVE 19:36:30 NEVER SEEN SUCH 19:36:33 SIGN IN THIS ROAD. 19:36:38 >> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER PYLON SIGNS WITHIN FREMONT ON 6 19:36:42 680 HOWEVER SEVERAL OTHER BUSINESSES ALONG THERE 19:36:46 HAVE LARGE SIGNS. 19:36:49 FOR EXAMPLE, THE FRY'S USED TO 19:36:52 HAVE A SIGN. THE REASON THIS IS A PYLON SIGN 19:36:55 IS THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO PLACE A BUILDING VERY CLOSE 19:36:59 TO THE FREEWAY. THERE ARE SEVERAL EASE 19:37:02 MENTS NEAR THEIR LOCATION, THIS IS A SMALL POCKET 19:37:05 WHERE THEY CAN FIT THIS SIGN TO GET SOME FREEWAY VISIBILITY 19:37:08 FOR THEIR DEALERSHIP. 19:37:11 >> Commissioner Zhang: 19:37:16 THE SIGN WILL BE VISIBLE BOTH DIRECTIONS 19:37:19 , NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND? 19:37:22 >> YES, THE SITE IS 19:37:25 LOCATED SO IT CAN BE VISIBLE FROM THE FREEWAY 19:37:29 , ABOUT 13 FEET ABOVE THE GRADE AND THERE IS A 19:37:31 LARGE GROVE OF TREES TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE. 19:37:34 SO THE CARS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO -- THE SOUTHBOUND TRAVELING CARS 19:37:38 WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO SEE THE SIGN BRIEFLY BEFORE PASSING 19:37:41 IT. NORTHBOUND 19:37:44 HAS A HIGHER 19:37:48 CENTER DIVIDE IN THIS AREA. SO THAT WOULD ALSO SERVE 19:37:51 TO BLOCK VIEWS OF IT AS WELL AS THE OVERPASS 19:37:55 UNTIL THEY GET CLOSER TO THE SIGN 19:37:58 . >> Commissioner Zhang: FINE, THANK YOU. 19:38:03 >> Commissioner Daulton: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? 19:38:06 ALL RIGHT, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION 19:38:11 . LET'S SEE, SO WHAT 19:38:14 YOU'RE SAYING, JAMES, IS THAT THE 19:38:17 -- THAT THE NEXT CLOSEST SIGN TO THIS ONE IS 19:38:21 DOWN IN MILPITAS. IS THAT RIGHT 19:38:24 ? >> IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PYLON SIGNS ON 19:38:27 680, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THERE'S ANOTHER 19:38:30 ONE WITHIN FREMONT ALONG 680. THERE ARE 19:38:34 TWO LARGE FREEWAY ORIENTED PYLON SIGNS 19:38:37 ON 880 FOR EXAMPLE, THE PACIFIC COMMONS SIGN FOR 19:38:41 BLOCK WHICH IS OVER 115 FEET TALL 19:38:44 . AND THE AUTO MALL SIGN 19:38:47 IS OVER 70 FEET TALL. SO THIS 19:38:51 SIGN IS A PYLON SIGN ON 680. I'M NOT AWARE 19:38:54 OF ANY OTHERS. HOWEVER OTHER BUSINESSES DID 19:38:57 HAVE, TO AND DID HAVE BUILDING 19:39:00 MOUNTED SIGNS THAT WERE ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS THIS ONE. 19:39:03 AS I SAID THE FRY'S SIGN WAS QUITE 19:39:07 LARGE AND APPROXIMATELY THE SAME HEIGHT BECAUSE IT WAS 19:39:10 PLACED RELATIVELY HIGH ON THE FRY'S 19:39:13 BUILDING. >> Commissioner Daulton: AND CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT, JUST 19:39:16 CLARIFY FOR MYSELF AND THE AUDIENCE, WHAT PART 19:39:19 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE PUTS THIS ITEM 19:39:22 IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION? 19:39:25 >> SO THE SIGN ORDINANCE HAS A SECTION THAT ALLOWS FOR 19:39:28 FREEWAY ORIENTED SIGNS 19:39:33 IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS. AND IT'S SPECIFIED 19:39:36 AS REQUIRING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 19:39:39 . >> Commissioner Daulton: 19:39:43 OKAY. AND ARE THERE ANY ISSUES OF THE -- ON THE 19:39:46 VIEW SCAPE FROM THE HILLSIDE THAT ARE 19:39:51 PERTINENT TO THIS? WHEN I WAS OVER THERE I NOTICED 19:39:54 THERE ARE SOME HOMES UP THE HILL THAT ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO SEE 19:39:58 THIS, AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. 19:40:01 I REALIZE NOBODY OWNS THE VIEW BUT IS THAT ANY 19:40:05 KIND OF CONSIDERATION HERE? >> THE SIGN WOULD BE EDGE 19:40:08 -ON TO WHERE MOST OF THOSE HOMES ARE LOCATED 19:40:11 . THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE SIDE OF THE SIGN 19:40:15 WHICH ISN'T VERY WIDE AT ALL AND THE ILLUMINATION IS FACING 19:40:18 THE FREEWAY RATHER THAN TOWARDS THE HOMES AND 19:40:21 IT IS ACTUALLY A RELATIVELY LOW ILLUMINATION. 19:40:25 IT IS INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED AND 19:40:28 THERE ARE NO BARE BULBS OR ANYTHING, 19:40:32 NOTHING FLASHING AND IT IS BASICALLY JUST A LARGE SIGN 19:40:35 THAT IS INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED LIKE DOZENS OF 19:40:39 OTHER SIGNS IN FREMONT, IN THIS CASE IT HAPPENS TO BE NEXT TO THE 19:40:41 FREEWAY. >> Commissioner Daulton: I 19:40:44 UPS. THANK YOU. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS 19:40:47 FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, I GUESS WE 19:40:51 CAN -- WHAT, ENTERTAIN A MOTION 19:40:54 AT THIS POINT OR -- 19:40:57 >> Planner Pullen: AT THIS POINT CHAIR, WE'VE HAD THE 19:41:02 PRESENTATION FROM THE PLANNER. AND IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO GIVE THE 19:41:05 APPLICANT -- >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY. >> Planner Pullen: 19:41:09 -- TEN MINUTES TO SPEAK AND THEN GO TO THE PUBLIC 19:41:12 AND BACK TO THE APPLICANT 19:41:15 . THEY GET FIVE MINUTES AT THE END. 19:41:18 THEY DON'T NEED TO TAKE THE FIVE MINUTES, THEY MAY DEFER 19:41:22 BUT WE WANT 19:41:26 EVERYBODY TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK. 19:41:29 >> Commissioner Daulton: I APOLOGIZE JOEL, I PROMISE 19:41:32 I'LL GET THE HANG OF IT. PRESENTATION 19:41:36 FROM THE APPLICANT, ANYTHING, DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION? 19:41:39 NO? >> I'M KELLY REED, 19:41:42 I'M WITH RANGE 19:41:46 SIGNS. MIKE AND I INITIATED THIS PROCESS WITH 19:41:49 MR. WILLIS IN 2017. 19:41:54 AND HAVE SINCE THEN 19:41:57 BEEN CHECKING THE BOXES 19:42:00 AS WE WENT IN FOR EACH 19:42:03 AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO PROVIDE 19:42:08 . AND I -- NOW THAT 19:42:11 MIKE IS, MR. PATI IS 19:42:14 UNMUTED I WILL TURN THE FLOOR OVER 19:42:17 TO HIM. HE -- I THINK HE HAS MORE TO 19:42:20 SAY. >> FORGIVE ME, 19:42:23 I HOPE MUCH HAS SEEN THE 19:42:26 MATERIALS WE'VE TURNED IN THROUGH JAMES WILLIS TO 19:42:29 SHOW WHAT HE DESCRIBED IN NARRATIVE FORMAT. 19:42:32 BUT AS MENTIONED EARLIER OUR DEALERSHIP 19:42:35 IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND VERY EARLY ON, WHEN WE 19:42:38 WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH CELY, I REMEMBER 19:42:41 MEETING ONSITE WE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE 19:42:45 OF MARKETING OUR BRAND TO THE FREE WAY TO 19:42:48 ATTRACT TRAFFIC MAINLY ON THE RENTAL SIDE OF OUR BUSINESS. SO 19:42:51 WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR -- TO LOOK AT THIS WITH YOU. IF 19:42:54 THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER WITH RESPECT TO THE PACKAGE WE 19:42:58 WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO SO 19:43:01 OR WITH RESPECT TO THE 19:43:05 DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL. >> Commissioner Daulton: DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM 19:43:09 THE COMMISSIONER -- OR I SEE A HAND RAISED OVER THERE 19:43:12 . IS THIS CHER 19:43:17 I FLETCHER, 19:43:20 ARE YOU PART OF THE GROUP? >> YES, SHE IS 19:43:23 . >> Commissioner Daulton: PLEASE RECOGNIZE CHER 19:43:27 I FLETCHER-POWELL. I THINK YOU'RE MUTE 19:43:30 ED CURRENTLY. 19:43:33 >> THANK YOU. SORRY, I THOUGHT SOMEBODY ELSE WAS GOING TO UN 19:43:36 MUTE ME. I'M THE APPLICANT. 19:43:39 ON BASIS OF RECOMMENDATION FOR PAPE 19:43:44 . PRIMARILY I PUT TOGETHER ALL THE DOCUMENTS BASED OFTEN 19:43:47 THE INFORMATION THAT I WAS PROVIDED. I THINK 19:43:51 THAT KELLY AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING A LITTLE BIT 19:43:54 ABOUT TODAY ABOUT THE FRP 19:43:58 PROSPECT OF GETTING THIS SIGN. AND IT SEEMS LIKE 19:44:02 THE PLANNING SIDE OF THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE A LARGER 19:44:05 SIGN, MUCH, MUCH TALLER 19:44:09 AND MUCH, MUCH LARGER 19:44:11 THAN WE'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING. WE KIND OF COME AGAIN UNDER WHAT 19:44:14 WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR US TO HAVE SOME VISIBILITY 19:44:17 FOR THIS DEALERSHIP ALONG 19:44:22 I-680. THE ONLY 19:44:25 OTHER VISIBILITY WE WOULD GET IS FROM OSGOOD 19:44:30 ROAD. THIS IS A DEALERSHIP THAT TRIES TO ATTRACT THIS TYPE 19:44:33 OF PERSON DRIVING UP AND DOWN I-6 19:44:37 80. MAY NOT BE ON OSGOOD IF THEY DIDN'T 19:44:40 KNOW THAT THIS DEALERSHIP WAS THERE AND THE ONLY WAY THEY'RE GOING TO 19:44:43 SEE IT IS IF THEY HAVE GOT THIS PYLON 19:44:47 SIGN OUT ON THE FREEWAY. 40 FEET 19:44:50 TALL SIGN IS NOT AN EXTREMELY LARGE OR 19:44:53 VERY TALL SIGN, CONSIDERING THE GRADE 19:44:56 THAT THEY'VE GOT AT THIS SITE, VERSUS 19:45:00 THE GRADE ELEVATION OF I-6 19:45:03 80. 19:45:07 WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER CHALLENGES THERE OBVIOUSLY WITH THE HIGH 19:45:10 TENSION POWER LINES WHICH WE NEED TO AVOID BUT AGAIN 19:45:14 , THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO HAVE SOME 19:45:17 VISIBILITY ON I-680 WHICH WOULD BE 19:45:20 VERY IMPORTANT TO THE SUCCESS OF THE DEALERSHIP 19:45:23 . >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT. 19:45:26 IS THAT IT FROM THE APPLICANT THEN 19:45:30 ? >> I THINK THAT'S IT FOR ME. >> Commissioner Daulton: YOU 19:45:33 STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES IF YOU LIKE, OTHERWISE I'M GOING TO GO 19:45:36 BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANTS 19:45:41 . I GUESS I WILL DO THAT. DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 19:45:44 FROM THE COMMISSIONERS TO THE 19:45:47 APPLICANTS? 19:45:50 COMMISSIONER YEE, YES. 19:45:56 YOU'RE MUTED B 19:45:59 BEN. >> Commissioner Yee: YES, THIS IS COMMISSIONER YEE 19:46:02 SO THAT OUR SECRETARY WOULD KNOW WHO IS SPEAKING 19:46:06 . BUT I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDS 19:46:09 TO, YOU KNOW, TO THIS SIGN. IS IT POSSIBLE TO 19:46:12 PUT SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT WE COULD SEE LIKE IT 19:46:15 WAS DONE AT FRY'S OR MAYBE LIKE AT 19:46:18 METRO CROSSING LIKE A LARGE BANNER THAT IS ON 19:46:21 YOUR BUILDING TO BE ACTUALLY SEEN FROM THE FREEWAY IN LIEU 19:46:24 OF A 40 FOOT TALL SIGN 19:46:28 THAT'S PERPENDICULAR TO THE FREEWAY? 19:46:34 >> FOR US IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT, THIS IS 19:46:37 MIKE PATI WITH PAPE. SORRY ABOUT 19:46:40 THAT. FIRST THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS 19:46:44 . FIRST, AS CHERI ALLUDED 19:46:47 TO, THE VISIBILITY 19:46:50 FROM THE FREEWAY. TRAFFIC HAD A MAY BE SERVED BY US TO KNOW 19:46:53 WHERE WE ARE. 19:46:56 AS MENTIONED THE FACILITY, THERE IS A GROVE OF TREES TO THE NORTH 19:47:00 AND THEN APPROACHING TO THE SOUTH PAST 19:47:03 THE INTERSECTION FROM AUTO MALL. THE SITE ISN'T 19:47:06 NECESSARILY VISIBLE IN ADVANCE UNTIL YOU ARE ON TOP OF IT 19:47:09 ON THE FREEWAY AND AS YOU'RE DRIVING BY 19:47:12 , PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY LOOK INTO THE DEPTHS 19:47:16 OF THE PROPERTY, THEY ARE MORE FOCUSED ON 19:47:19 A SIGN THAT IS FREEWAY FRONTAGE. THE OTHER ASPECT 19:47:22 IS, THERE ARE FUNCTIONALITY BUILT IN 19:47:25 THERE, MACHINES COMING OUT OF VARIOUS SERVICE BAY 19:47:29 S, SO WORK AROUND THAT FUNCTIONALITY, HAVING 19:47:32 THAT SIGN POTENTIALLY BLOCKED 19:47:35 BY MACHINE TRAFFIC IS A DISABILITY. 19:47:40 DISADVANTAGEOUS FOR US TO HAVE IT LOCATED FAR FROM THE FREEWAY 19:47:43 AND ON THE BUILDING. >> Commissioner Yee: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU 19:47:47 . >> IF I MAY. THIS IS 19:47:50 A BUSINESS THAT HAS 19:47:53 200 LOCATIONS ON 19:47:56 -- UP AND DOWN THE 85 19:48:00 I-5 CORRIDOR. AND WHAT THEY STAND 19:48:03 FOR IS 19:48:06 IS QUALITY AND INTEGRITY. THEY ARE 19:48:09 VERY SOLID. THEY KEEP MOVING 19:48:12 FROM BUYING PARTS FOR YOUR EQUIPMENT TO GETTING BIG 19:48:15 EQUIPMENT. AND TO REPRESENT THEIR 19:48:18 BRAND WITH A BANNER 19:48:22 WOULD NOT ONLY BE NOT A LONG TERM SOLUTION 19:48:25 FOR SOMEONE WHO'S COMMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY 19:48:29 , AND I DON'T MEAN 19:48:32 TO COMPARE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE 19:48:36 AVERAGE REVENUE 19:48:39 BUSINESS BRINGS BUT THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT FROM THE TIME WE MET 19:48:43 IN 2017 THERE WAS GREAT INTEREST IN HAVING THEM HAVE 19:48:46 A PRESENCE IN FREMONT. BECAUSE OF THE SALES REVENUE 19:48:49 THAT THEY WOULD BRING TO THE COMMUNITY. 19:48:53 SO IN REPRESENTING 19:48:57 PAPE, THE IMAGE THAT THEY NEED TO MAINTAIN 19:49:00 IS THE IMAGE THEY'VE GOT FROM CANADA TO 19:49:03 MEXICO WHICH IS WE'RE HERE TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE 19:49:06 TOMORROW AND NOT A BANNER THAT MAY SUGGEST 19:49:09 WE'RE HERE UNTIL THE WIND BLOWS THIS 19:49:12 BANNER DOWN AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE. 19:49:21 >> Commissioner Daulton: COMPLE DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? 19:49:24 >> Commissioner Yee: YES, IT DOES. NOW I'M GOING TO ASK 19:49:27 ANOTHER QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT. AS YOU WELL KNOW MANY BUSINESS 19:49:31 ES UTILIZE SOCIAL MEDIA AS A WAY FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS 19:49:34 TO BE ABLE TO FIND THEM 19:49:37 . AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW LIKE FOR MYSELF 19:49:40 , YOU KNOW, EVERYONE ALSO A SMARTPHONE, AND 19:49:44 THEY TYPE IN THE ADDRESS. 19:49:47 SO I MYSELF I'M ONLY SPEAKING 19:49:50 FOR MYSELF, I DON'T KNOW IF A SIGN REALLY IS GOING 19:49:53 TO HELP ME BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT MY PHONE 19:49:57 , IT'S GIVING ME TURN BY TURN, TELLING ME EXACTLY HOW 19:50:00 TO GET TO YOUR PAPE DEALERSHIP. 19:50:03 YOU KNOW, TALKING TO SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THE AREA 19:50:06 , THEY THOUGHT PROBABLY THE SAME WAY 19:50:09 -- NO, THEY THOUGHT THE SAME WAY AS WELL. THAT MOST 19:50:13 PEOPLE WOULD BE USING THEIR GPS TRACK 19:50:16 ING IN ORDER TO FIND YOUR DEALERSHIP. 19:50:19 AND SO 19:50:25 I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M KIND OF WONDERING IN TERMS OF THE 19:50:29 DATA, IF HAVING A SIGN IS GOING TO MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. 19:50:37 >> SORRY, KELLY REID 19:50:40 , THAT IS A BIGGER CONVERSATION THAN I'M 19:50:43 PREPARED TO HAVE. I DIDN'T PUT TOGETHER 19:50:46 INFORMATION ON IMPRESSIONS PER 19:50:49 AUTOMOBILE, SO THAT I COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, ON 19:50:53 THAT, GIVEN THE TRAFFIC COUNT 19:50:56 , WHAT THEY COULD COUNT ON AS ADVERTISING 19:51:00 THAT WOULD NOT ONLY TELL PEOPLE IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IT, 19:51:03 WHERE THEY'RE AT BUT WOULD TELL PEOPLE WHEN THEY GO BY 19:51:06 , OH, THAT'S RIGHT, I NEED TO GO PICK UP SOME PARTS 19:51:09 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY 19:51:12 TOMORROW, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE AT, GREAT I 19:51:16 CAN BE BACK THERE. SO IT SERVES AS 19:51:19 AN ADVERTISEMENT TO NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR IT 19:51:23 , BUT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT 19:51:26 THEY'RE GOING TO BECOME A PART OF THE COMMUNITY 19:51:30 . 19:51:39 >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER ZHANG 19:51:41 . >> Commissioner Zhang: I HAVE A SIMILAR CONCERN ABOUT THE 19:51:45 EFFECTIVENESS OF THE SIGN. BECAUSE ON THE ONE SIDE YOU HAVE TREES, 19:51:48 YOUR SIGN WON'T BE TALLER 19:51:52 THAN THAT. ON THE OTHER SIDE YOU HAVE A 19:51:55 SEVEN POWER TOWER OVER THERE. THE PASSENGER 19:51:58 PASSED BY THAT PART, 19:52:01 PROBABLY ONLY CAN SEE YOUR SIGN FOR ONE SECOND, PROBABLY 19:52:06 . I JUST -- IT'S DIFFICULT TO 19:52:09 ME TO JUSTIFY THE VALUE ADDED. 19:52:13 PLUS YOU WILL BE THE FIRST SIGH SETTING 19:52:16 OVER THERE. IT BECOME AN EYESORE 19:52:20 FOR THE LOAD 19:52:23 IF I DROP BY. THAT'S MY 19:52:25 THOUGHT. YOU KNOW. >> Commissioner Daulton: DO 19:52:29 YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? 19:52:32 >> Commissioner Zhang: NO, I JUST FEEL THAT THE 19:52:35 EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS SIGN IS KIND OF NOT -- IS NOT JUSTIFIED 19:52:39 . >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY, WHEN WE COME BACK ON DISCUSSION 19:52:43 , COMMISSIONER ZHANG, THANK YOU. 19:52:45 >> Planner Pullen: CHAIR. >> Commissioner Daulton: YES 19:52:48 JOEL. >> Planner Pullen: IF IT'S HELPFUL, A COUPLE OF 19:52:51 THINGS I WANT TO OFFER. ONE, JAMES WILLIS 19:52:55 THE PLANNER DOES HAVE SOME GRAPHICS, IF 19:52:58 IT'S HELPFUL AT SOME POINT DURING YOUR DISCUSSION TO VISUALIZE 19:53:02 THE SITE. IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT 19:53:05 TO DELVE INTO. AND THEN, ONE OF THE 19:53:08 THINGS I WANT TO MAKE SURE DURING THE 19:53:12 STAFF PRESENTATION WE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE MOORNL 19:53:15 P 19:53:19 MAJOR POINTS. ALSO, THE 19:53:22 CODE CONTEMPLATES SIGNS OF THIS TYPE IN 19:53:25 THIS TYPE OF LOCATION AND IT DOES SEND IT 19:53:28 TO YOU FOR DISCRETION OVER 19:53:32 HEIGHT AND LOCATION, ET CETERA. THE INTENTION OF A SIGN 19:53:36 FOR A USE LIKE THIS IS OBVIOUSLY, PAPE IS A 19:53:40 MAJOR 19:53:44 KIND OF NEW BUSINESS TO FREMONT AND CONTRIBUTE 19:53:47 TO FREMONT WITH SALES AND RENTAL OF THESE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT 19:53:50 . I'M SURE THEY DO KNOW THEIR BUSINESS IN TERMS 19:53:53 OF HOW TO ADVERTISE. IT'S A FINE LINE WE'RE GET 19:53:56 TING INTO SORT OF THE NEED FOR THE SIGN AND THE BENEFIT OF THE SIGN 19:53:59 AND THAT'S ALL THEIR TERRITORY 19:54:03 . AT SOME POINT IT COMES BACK TO THE ZONING 19:54:06 QUESTION OF, IS IT ON BALANCE, SOMETHING 19:54:09 THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW AND I JUST WANT TO KEEP IN MIND 19:54:12 THAT THERE IS AN ASSUMPTION 19:54:15 IN THE ZONING CODE THAT THERE IS AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO 19:54:18 THESE SIGNS AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BEING 19:54:22 ALLOWED BOTH FOR THE APPLICANT AND FOR THE CITY'S COMMERCE AS A 19:54:25 WHOLE. SO AGAIN, JAMES IS AVAILABLE WITH GRAPHICS 19:54:28 IF YOU NEED. AND I'LL GO BACK 19:54:31 TO YOU. >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK YOU, JOEL 19:54:35 . COMMISSIONER LIU DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? 19:54:37 >> Commissioner Liu: YES, I DO. 19:54:40 WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PAPE 19:54:43 AND JOHN DEER 19:54:47 ? >> COMMISSIONER, THIS IS MIKE PATI 19:54:50 . WE ARE A DEALERSHIP FOR 19:54:54 JOHN DEERE. JOHN DEER IS 19:54:57 THE MANUFACTURER AND WE SELL THEIR PRODUCTS IN I 19:55:01 BELIEVE NINE WESTERN STATES NOW. >> Commissioner Liu: OKAY. 19:55:04 AT SOME POINT I HEARD IT FROM THE NEIGHBOR THAT YOU ATTEMPTED 19:55:07 TO PLACE THE SIGN ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY 19:55:11 . AT CRIPS I 19:55:14 HEARD. AND WHY IS THAT? 19:55:17 OR IS THAT TRUE? I DON'T KNOW I JUST HEARD IT 19:55:20 FROM -- BY TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS. 19:55:23 >> COMMISSIONER LIU THAT'S NOT TRUE TO MY MANY. 19:55:26 THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN AND LIKE KELLY 19:55:30 SAID WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS PROJECT 19:55:33 WITH THE CITY OF FREMONT FOR NEARLY FIVE YEARS. >> Commissioner Liu: OKAY, 19:55:37 MAYBE THE PERSON MISSPOKE AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING 19:55:40 THE CLARIFYING QUESTION. SO 19:55:43 OKAY, SO THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU GUYS SO FAR 19:55:46 . >> THANK YOU 19:55:48 . >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LIU. 19:55:51 IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO 19:55:54 BRING THE COMMISSIONERS BACK TO STAFF 19:55:57 OR DO WE GIVE SOME TIME TO THE APPLICANT TO MAKE 19:56:00 A FINAL STATEMENT? >> Planner Pullen: WE 19:56:04 HAVEN'T CHECKED YET IF THERE'S ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO 19:56:07 SPEAK. I DIDN'T SEE HANDS RAISED A MOMENT AGO. 19:56:10 WE SHOULD CHECK. >> Commissioner Daulton: TRISH 19:56:13 DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? 19:56:17 >> CHAIR DAULTON I'M LOOKING NOW AND I DO NOT SEE ANY RAISED 19:56:20 HANDS SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS. >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY, 19:56:23 SO THEN LET'S BRING QUESTIONS BACK TO STAFF ON THIS IF WE 19:56:26 COULD. 19:56:34 I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY HAS FURTHER QUESTIONS 19:56:37 FOR THE STAFF ON THIS. OR ANY DISCUSSION 19:56:40 ON THIS ITEM FROM THE COMMISSION 19:56:44 . 19:56:55 >> Commissioner Liu: I WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED. 19:56:57 >> Commissioner Daulton: GO AHEAD. 19:57:00 CA>> Commissioner Liu: I 19:57:03 HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF. FROM WHAT I SAW IN THE PACKAGE 19:57:07 THE SIGN APPEARS TO BE VERY STRIKING, VERY 19:57:10 ATTENTION-GRABBING. ARE THERE ANY 19:57:14 STUDIES FROM THE SAFETY PERSPECTIVE FOR THOSE DRIVERS 19:57:17 WHO ARE KIND OF MAKING A TURN FROM HIGHWAY 6 19:57:21 80 GOING DRIVING SOUTH 19:57:24 ? >> FIRST OF ALL, I'D ARGUE THAT 19:57:27 IT IS ACTUALLY A RELATIVELY BLAND SIGN WHEN YOU THINK 19:57:30 ABOUT HOW A LOT OF THE MONUMENT SIGNS AND OUTER FREEWAY 19:57:35 ORIENTED SIGNS EVEN IN FREMONT APPEAR 19:57:38 . FOR EXAMPLE, THE 19:57:41 AUTO MALL SIGN HAS A DIGITAL BILLBOARD ON IT 19:57:44 . AND THE 19:57:48 PACIFIC COMMONS SIGN. AND THIS 19:57:51 SIGN IS NOT NO GRAPHICS 19:57:55 GRAPHICS, NO THINGS MOVING AROUND, OR ANYTHING 19:57:58 LIKE THAT AT THE TIME BE A STATICAL SIGN. 19:58:01 THE PROCT KNOWLEDGE WAS SHARED WITH CALTRANS AS 19:58:05 PART OF THE NORMAL PROCESS OF REVIEW AND CALTRANS HAD 19:58:08 NO COMMENT ON THE SIGN SO THEY DID 19:58:11 SEEM TO THINK THAT IT WAS A SAFETY CONCERN 19:58:15 . >> THIS IS CLIFF NGUYEN. 19:58:18 COMMISSIONER LIU AS I COULD ADD TO WHAT JAMES JUST MENTION 19:58:21 ED, YOU AS THE COMMISSION CAN IF YOU DECIDE TO ALLOW 19:58:24 THE APPLICANT TO PROCEED AND BUILD THIS SIGN, IS TO 19:58:28 ADD CONDITIONS, WHERE THERE ARE ADVERSE IMPACTS 19:58:31 SUCH AS THE CONCERNS YOU HAVE, COMMISSIONER LIU 19:58:35 , GLARE, THE LIGHTING, ET CETERA, 19:58:38 ON MOTORISTS THAT ARE TRAVELING THROUGH 680 19:58:41 , THOSE CONDITIONS COULD BE ADDED. AND IF IT'S 19:58:44 -- IF WE DO FIND THAT IT'S WARRANTED, TO 19:58:48 MAKE SOME CHANGES AND ADJUSTMENTS, IF THE SIGN 19:58:51 IS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION, THEN WE HAVE 19:58:54 THAT AUTHORITY AS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION IF YOU DECIDE TO 19:58:57 APPROVE THE SIGN. YOU KNOW, WHAT 19:59:00 WE'VE BEEN HEARD FROM PAPE AND PAPE IS A VERY 19:59:04 LARGE TAX REVENUE GENERATOR THEY SELL HEAVY 19:59:07 EQUIPMENT, THEY ARE AN AUTHORIZED JOHN DEERE 19:59:11 SUPPLIER AND SELL THEIR TRACTORS. 19:59:14 THIS IS PART OF THEIR BUSINESS MODEL AND THIS IS A FLAGSHIP 19:59:17 BUILDING. THEY'RE BUILDING IT FROM GROUND 19:59:20 UP. AND THIS IS THE ONLY ONE I BELIEVE 19:59:23 IN THE BAY AREA. AND SO THE DESIGN 19:59:26 OF THE BUILDING IS VERY 19:59:30 CONTEMPORARY. 19:59:33 LOOKS VERY GOOD. OVERALL THE QUALITY, THIS IS 19:59:36 WHAT STAFF BELIEVES, IT IS OF GOOD QUALITY, THEY 19:59:39 HAVE A QUALIFIED SIGN CONSULTANT. YOU SEE RIGHT HERE 19:59:43 . BUT THOSE ISSUES ARE VALID, 19:59:45 AND CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. 19:59:52 THANK YOU. >> Planner Pullen: TO ADD ON TO WHAT CLIFF 19:59:56 SAID JUST REAL BRIEFLY, COMMISSIONER LIU ASKED 19:59:59 ABOUT CALTRANS STANDARDS AND THE STANDARDS THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT 20:00:02 CALTRANS DOES HAVE FOR SIGNS 20:00:04 RELATES TO DWELL TIME FOR CHANGING IMAGES. 20:00:07 SO WHEN YOU GO ON 880 FOR EXAMPLE WHEN CALTRANS WOULD 20:00:11 GET INVOLVED IN THE QUESTION ABOUT A SIGN THERE, THEY WOULDN'T WANT 20:00:14 THOSE IMAGES TO CHANGE TOO SOON. SO THAT PEOPLE 20:00:17 ARE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING VERY FREQUENTLY AT MODIFIED 20:00:21 SIGNS. IT WOULD REDUCE ROADWAY SAFETY. 20:00:24 BUT WHEN IT COMES TO STATIC SIGNS, ON 20:00:27 THIS FRONTAGE, THERE'S NO SUCH -- THERE'S NO CONCERN 20:00:30 ABOUT A SIGN OF THIS TYPE. 20:00:33 >> YES, THE SIGN IS INTERNALLY LIT, 20:00:37 IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A DIGITAL BOARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT 20:00:40 . >> Commissioner Liu: OKAY, THANK YOU. 20:00:44 >> Commissioner Daulton: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? 20:00:49 ALL RIGHT, IN THAT CASE WE CAN HAVE SOME DISCUSSION 20:00:52 HERE. I'D LIKE TO TELL 20:00:55 MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE 20:00:59 HAVE, AS A COMMISSION, DISCRETIONARY 20:01:03 ABILITY TO SAY YEA OR NAY ON THIS 20:01:06 PROJECT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW THIS 20:01:11 SIGN TO BE THE ONLY SIGN IN FREMONT 20:01:14 ON 680. THIS IS A PRECEDENT 20:01:17 -SETTING THING FOR US HERE. I 20:01:21 APPRECIATE THE REVENUE STREAM THAT THIS COMPANY IS GOING TO BRING IN 20:01:25 . BUT OUR CITY SIGN IS 20:01:28 THE HILLS HERE. AND IF YOU WANT 20:01:31 OUR HILLS TO BE VIEWED WITH THIS 20:01:35 -- WITH THIS PARTICULAR SIGN AND THEN MAYBE MORE SIGNS 20:01:38 TO COME, I DON'T SEE IT 20:01:41 THAT WAY. SO IF WE HAVE A DISCRETION TO TURN 20:01:45 THIS, TO DENY THIS APPLICATION I WOULD VOTE IN THAT REGARD 20:01:50 . ANY 20:01:52 OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? >> Commissioner Steckler: I 20:01:56 HAVE A QUESTION OR A COMMENT. THIS IS CRAIG. 20:01:57 >> Commissioner Daulton: COMMISSIONER. 20:02:00 >> Commissioner Steckler: ISN'T THERE A LARGE SIGN AT McDONALD'S AT 20:02:03 680 AND MISSION? 20:02:08 SEE -- YOU CAN SEE FROM THE FREEWAY BOTH DIRECTIONS 20:02:10 ? >> I BELIEVE SO. >> Commissioner Steckler: AND 20:02:14 I BELIEVE THAT ISN'T THERE A LARGE GAS 20:02:17 STATION SIGN AT 20:02:20 AUTO MALL AND 680, 20:02:24 AT THE -- IT WOULD BE THE SOUTHEAST 20:02:27 CORNER, A LARGE SIGN IS 20:02:30 IT AN ARCO STATION MAYBE? 20:02:34 WHAT I'M TRYING TO POINT OUT IS THIS IS NOT THE ONLY SIGN ON 6 20:02:37 680. 20:02:47 >> JOEL DO YOU HAVE -- >> Planner Pullen: THE McDONALD'S SIGN 20:02:50 I RECALL THERE IS A BIG TREE THEY PUT UP AND 20:02:53 I BELIEVE IT IS IN THE VICINITY OF 20:02:56 THAT TREE THEY PUT UP EVERY YEAR WHERE THERE IS 20:03:00 A SIGN THERE. BUT IT IS BEHIND A PARK 20:03:03 AND RIDE. BUT IT IS INTENDED TO BE VISIBLE 20:03:06 FROM 680. I THINK THE OTHER ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 20:03:09 YOU SAID ON AUTO MALL, I THINK THAT'S 20:03:12 A 76 STATION. >> Commissioner Steckler: 76. 20:03:15 >> Planner Pullen: I'M NOT SURE THE HEIGHT OF THAT. 20:03:19 JUST TO RELATE, STAFF'S 20:03:22 FEEDBACK, 20:03:26 THERE ARE SIGNS ALLOWED BY OUR SIGN CODE 20:03:30 ON HIGHWAYS. AND THE COUNCIL 20:03:33 HAS PURVIEW OVER THOSE SIGNS. AND SO YOU CAN 20:03:36 -- YOU HAVE DISCRETION TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT 20:03:40 THEM. THOSE DECISIONS WILL IMPACT THE RESPECT 20:03:43 IVE BUSINESSES AND IN THIS 20:03:46 SITUATION, THE PARTICULAR CHALLENGE 20:03:50 IS THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE PROPERTY DOESN'T 20:03:53 ALLOW A BUILDING TO BE PLACED IN THE VICINITY 20:03:57 . AND THERE ARE LOTS OF PLACES WHERE YOU'VE GOT 20:04:01 THOSE BUILDINGS ON OTHER PORTIONS OF THE FREEWAY, NOT SO 20:04:04 MUCH ON OSGOOD BECAUSE OF THE POWER LINES IN 20:04:07 THIS VICINITY WHERE THEY CAN COME 20:04:10 OUT CLOSER. THAT IS THE LIMITATION OF 20:04:14 THIS SITUATION. IF YOU ARE NOT TO ALLOW THE SIGN 20:04:17 THE OPTIONS WOULD BE LIMITED FOR THEM TO GET THAT FREE WAY VISIBILITY 20:04:21 . >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK YOU JOEL. 20:04:24 COMMISSIONERS DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER LIU, 20:04:27 PLEASE. >> Commissioner Liu: I THINK COMMISSIONER YEE HAS 20:04:30 HAD HIS HAND UP ON -- 20:04:32 FIRST. SO. >> Commissioner Daulton: 20:04:35 COMMISSIONER YEE, CHAIR RECOGNIZES YOU. >> Commissioner Yee: THAT'S 20:04:38 OKAY. I'LL LET COMMISSIONER LIU GO FIRST. 20:04:41 >> Commissioner Liu: OKAY, THANK YOU. 20:04:51 SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE STAFF. ONCE 20:04:54 THIS SIGN IS ACTUALLY BUILT IS THIS POSITION 20:04:57 EVER REVERSIBLE, IF WE GET TOO 20:05:01 MANY COMPLAINTS IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE THE COMPANY TAKE IT 20:05:04 DOWN ONCE IT'S BUILT? >> Planner Pullen: ONCE 20:05:07 A SIGN WOULD BE APPROVED, A USE 20:05:10 PERMIT RUNS WITH THE LAND, AN APPROVAL RUNS WITH THE 20:05:14 LAND. THAT SAID, 20:05:17 REMEMBERING BACK TO WHAT JAMES AND CLIFF MENTIONED, IN THE CONDITIONS 20:05:20 OF APPROVAL THAT WE SHARED THERE ARE QUITE A FEW CONTROLS IN THERE 20:05:23 THAT RELATE TO THINGS THAT YOU AS THE COMMISSION COULD MODIFY 20:05:27 . YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THE COMMISSION TONIGHT GO INTO 20:05:30 ANY OF THAT. IN TERMS OF IF 20:05:33 THERE WOULD BE A 20:05:37 PERSPECTIVE AMENDMENT TO THE SIZE OR WIDTH OR 20:05:40 HEIGHT, ET CETERA. THOSE ARE THINGS WITHIN THE 20:05:43 COMMISSION'S PURVIEW. AND 20:05:46 SO, YOU KNOW, I'M STRUGGLING TO THINK OF A 20:05:49 SITUATION IN WHICH YOU COULD APPROVE AND THEN REVISIT. 20:05:52 IT'S REALLY NOT FEASIBLE BECAUSE THESE TYPE OF SIGNS ARE 20:05:56 QUITE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU COULD 20:05:59 JUST, YOU KNOW, MODIFY AFTER THE FACT. BUT YOU COULD, YOU 20:06:03 COULD DIRECT THE DESIGN OF IT AND MAKE SURE 20:06:06 THAT IT WERE TO BE DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT MET 20:06:09 CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU 20:06:13 . 20:06:17 >> AND JUST TO ADD TO WHAT JOEL HAS MENTIONED, THE HEIGHT OF THE 20:06:20 SIGN THAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY PAPE, 20:06:23 YES IT DOES SEEM TO BE 20:06:26 PARTICULARLY TALL BUT THERE IS THAT GRADE DIFFERENTIAL FROM THE 20:06:30 HIGHWAY BEING ABOVE THERE AT 680 AND THEN THE GRADE 20:06:33 , THE ELEVATION OF WHERE THE PAPE BUILDING SITS 20:06:37 AND THIS SIGN IS ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING. IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE 20:06:40 SIGNS AT THE AUTO MALL AND THE PACIFIC COMMONS 20:06:43 SIGN, THE BLOCK SIGN ON 880, THOSE 20:06:46 ARE SIGNS THAT ARE I 20:06:50 THINK IT'S -- THE BLOCK SIGN IS 1 20:06:53 10 FEET IN HEIGHT AND THE AUTO MALL SIGN IS 70 FEET 20:06:56 IN HEIGHT. WHERE THE SIGNS, THOSE SIGNS ARE MOUNTED 20:06:59 THE GRADES, THE ADJACENT GRADES OF THE FREEWAY 20:07:02 ARE SIMILAR. AND SO ALTHOUGH 20:07:05 YOU SEE ON THE PLANS THE SIGN'S AT 40 20:07:09 FEET IN HEIGHT, FROM 680 IT'S GOING TO BE 20:07:12 MUCH SHORTER. >> Commissioner Daulton: 20:07:16 MR. YEE PLEASE. >> Commissioner Yee: YES, 20:07:19 THIS IS ACTUALLY TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF 20:07:20 WHAT COMMISSIONER STECKLER IS SAYING. 20:07:23 YOU KNOW DRIVING UP AND DOWN 680 I 20:07:26 DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHERE COMMISSIONER STECKLER IS TALKING 20:07:30 ABOUT SEEING THESE SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY OF THE 20:07:33 McDONALD'S. AND 20:07:36 THAT UNION 76 GAS STAKES THERE BECAUSE 20:07:39 OF THE PROXIMITY OF WHERE THESE TWO BUSINESSES ARE LOCATED. 20:07:42 BUT THEN THIS SIGN WOULD BE THE FIRST BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING 20:07:46 ON THE BLUEPRINTS RIGHT UP AGAINST THE 680 FREEWAY 20:07:49 WHILE THESE OTHERS ARE NOT. AND SO THAT IS THE 20:07:53 CONCERN THAT I HAVE AS WELL THAT SETTING THIS AS A PRECEDENT 20:07:56 , THAT IT COULD OPEN THE DOOR AND THEN MAKE THIS 20:07:59 680 EVENTUALLY BECOME WHAT WE 20:08:02 SEE CURRENTLY ALREADY AT 880. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO 20:08:06 SAY. >> Commissioner Daulton: YES 20:08:10 . COMMISSIONER YEE, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT POINT 20:08:14 . AND I DON'T 20:08:17 MYSELF SEE A GOOD WAY TO REDESIGN THIS 20:08:20 THING ON THE FLY HERE IN THE COURSE OF THIS MEETING 20:08:25 . COMMISSIONER ZHANG, GO AHEAD 20:08:29 . >> Commissioner Zhang: I JUST TAKE A LOOK 20:08:32 AT THE McDONALD'S SIGN, IT'S PROBABLY SIX OR EIGHT 20:08:35 FEET TALL IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN BUILDING, IT'S NOT LIKE THE 20:08:39 SIGN, 20:08:44 POST SIGN, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, 20:08:47 QUITE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THIS PROPOSED. 20:08:54 >> Commissioner Daulton: COMMISSIONER ZHANG YOU'RE TALKING WHEN THE SIGN ON 20:08:58 -- >> Commissioner Zhang: ON McDONALD'S. 20:09:01 THAT IS THE BASE ON THEIR OWN BUILDING LIKE SIX FEET TALL IF 20:09:03 I SEE CORRECTLY. YES. 20:09:07 INDEED YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE HIGHWAY THOUGH 20:09:10 I GUESS. IF YOU DRIVE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE LANE 20:09:15 . SORRY. 20:09:18 >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY. ARE THERE 20:09:21 ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS 20:09:24 ? MR. LIU 20:09:28 . >> Commissioner Liu: DO WE HAVE ANY RENDITION OF THE 20:09:32 BUILDING WITH THE SIGNS ATTACHED TO THE, EITHER FRONT OR 20:09:35 BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DRIVE 20:09:38 BY OSGOOD QUITE OFTEN AND INDEED THAT, 20:09:42 YOUR NEW BUILDING LOOKS WONDERFUL, I'M 20:09:45 VERY IMPRESSED. AND IS YOUR SIREN ON 20:09:48 THE FRONT GOING TO DO -- GOING TO GIVE YOU SIMILAR 20:09:52 KIND OF ADVERTISING VALUE, IF YOU PUT 20:09:55 IT UP FRONT? AND FRANKLY IF YOU LOOK AT 20:09:59 YOUR USER BASE, YOUR CUSTOMER BASE, 20:10:02 MOST OF THEM ARE PROBABLY IN A SPECIFIC TRADE. 20:10:06 NOT THE KIND OF MASS CONSUMER 20:10:10 , EVERYDAY, AVERAGE PEOPLE WHO 20:10:13 WOULD PROBABLY GO TO McDONALD'S OR PLACES LIKE 20:10:16 THERE TO EAT, RIGHT? MAYBE IT'S AN EASIER IF YOU 20:10:20 DO SOME MORE TARGETED MARKETING TOWARDS THE TRADES 20:10:23 FOLKS. >> Planner Pullen: 20:10:27 SO CHAIR DAULTON, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS 20:10:29 CLOSED. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THE -- 20:10:33 >> Commissioner Daulton: WE CAN'T READDRESS QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME 20:10:36 . >> Planner Pullen: OKAY. 20:10:40 YOU COULD REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BUT THEN YOU 20:10:43 WOULD HAVE TO ASK IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE 20:10:47 TO SPEAK AS WELL, THAT IS WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW OR YOU 20:10:50 COULD LEAVE IT CLOSED OR YOU COULD 20:10:53 ASK ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO STAFF. >> Commissioner Daulton: I'D 20:10:56 LIKE TO ASK JAMES TO BRING UP THE RENDERING 20:10:58 OF THE COMPLETED BUILDING AGAIN FOR JUST A MOMENT. 20:11:11 SO I SEE HERE QUITE A LARGE SIGN ON THE FRONT 20:11:14 OF THE BUILDING, I'M 20:11:17 NOT SURE WHY A SIGN LIKE THAT COULDN'T BE 20:11:20 REPLICATED, AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACING 20:11:23 THE TREE WAY, I BELIEVE 20:11:27 FREEWAY, THIS MAY 20:11:30 HAVE BEEN WHAT 20:11:33 COMMISSIONER YEE WAS TALKING ABOUT, PAPER BANNER, 20:11:36 SIGNS FOR US, SOME LIKE THAT. I DO 20:11:39 RECOGNIZE THAT THE PAPE SIGN IS KNOWN 20:11:42 FROM MEXICO TO CANADA AND I'VE SEEN IT MANY, MANY TIMES 20:11:47 . I JUST WONDER 20:11:51 IF SMACK DAB UNDER MISSION PEAK 20:11:55 IS THE PLACE WHERE I WANT TO SEE ONE 20:11:58 . >> IF COMMISSIONER COULD GIVE ME 20:12:02 A MOMENT I COULD BRING UP THE ORIGINAL PLANS FOR THE 20:12:04 PAPE PROJECT AND SHOW YOU THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDING 20:12:08 AND THE FREEWAY AND ALSO THE SLAIP OF THE BACK OF THE BUILDING SO JUST 20:12:11 GIVE ME ONE MOMENT TO DOWNLOAD THOSE PLANS 20:12:15 . 20:12:58 CAN YOU SEE THAT? LET ME ENLARGE THAT FOR YOU. 20:13:09 AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE BUILDING IS OVER 291 20:13:12 FEET FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE. THE FREEWAY'S ACTUALLY 20:13:15 A LITTLE BIT FARTHER FROM THAT BECAUSE THERE IS THE 20:13:19 EMBANKMENT. THE FREEWAY TRAVEL LANES ARE HERE WHICH 20:13:22 WOULD PUT IT OVER 300 FEET 20:13:25 AWAY FROM THE FREEWAY. IF YOU GIVE ME A MOMENT TO FIND THE 20:13:29 ELEVATIONS, THE REAR ELEVATIONS, THE BUILDING ON THE BACK 20:13:32 DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE ONE ON THE FRONT. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE 20:13:35 FRONT IS THE DEALERSHIP. THE BACK PART 20:13:40 IS THE SERVICE BAYS. 20:13:43 AND THIS IS WHAT THE REAR OF THE 20:13:46 BUILDING LOOKS LIKE. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THE 20:13:50 LARGE STRIKING FRONTAGE THAT IT DOES FACE 20:13:54 ING OSGOOD. THIS IS THE BACK PART OF THE BUILDING WHICH IS MORE 20:13:55 INDUSTRIAL IN NATURE. >> Commissioner Daulton: CAN 20:13:59 YOU TELL ME HOW TALL THAT IS AT THE PEAK 20:14:02 THERE? >> YES. THE BUILDING 20:14:05 TO THE TOP OF THE MECHANICAL SCREEN IS 40 20:14:08 FEET ABOVE GRADE. >> Commissioner Daulton: SO 20:14:11 YOU'RE TELLING ME IF THEY PUT THEIR SIGN RIGHT UNDERNEATH 20:14:15 THAT PEAK YOU DON'T THINK IT COULD BE SEEN FROM THE FREEWAY? 20:14:19 >> 300 FEET AWAY FROM THE FREEWAY 20:14:23 AND PARALLEL TO THE FREEWAY TO CATCH THE EYE OF THE TRAVELING 20:14:26 PUBLIC. >> Commissioner Daulton: GRANTED IT WOULD BE BETTER IF 20:14:29 YOU COULD PAINT IT ON THE FREEWAY ITSELF, I 20:14:32 SUPPOSE BUT IT COULD STILL BE SEEN RIGHT 20:14:36 ? >> I WOULD ASK IF YOU WOULD BE DRIVING BY 20:14:40 65 MILES AN HOUR YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR 20:14:43 HEAD TURNED IN THAT DIRECTION, MAYBE IN SOME 20:14:46 TESLAS, BUT NOT 20:14:49 IN MY VEHICLE WOULD I BE TURNING MY HEAD 20:14:53 OVER AT FREEWAY SPEEDS. BUT IT MIGHT 20:14:56 BE BRIEFLY VISIBLE TO A PASSENGERS 20:14:59 PASSENGER. >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY. ANY 20:15:02 OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? ANY 20:15:05 SUGGESTIONS ON ANY WAY WE CAN COMPROMISE AND CREATE A 20:15:09 SIGN HERE ON THE FLY? 20:15:13 OR LIMIT THE SIZE OF 20:15:17 THIS PYLON SIGN IN SOME WAY? 20:15:21 IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 20:15:28 >> Commissioner Liu: YOU KNOW I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE BUSINESS FEEL 20:15:31 WELCOME IN FREMONT. BECAUSE 20:15:34 THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR EMPLOYMENT 20:15:38 . AND WOULD 20:15:41 -- LIKE CHAIR DAULTON SAID, ARE THERE ANY OTHER WAYS 20:15:46 TO GIVE THE VISIBILITY FROM THE FREEWAY 20:15:50 BY MAYBE PUTTING THE SIGNS ON THE REAR OF THE 20:15:53 BUILDING, MAYBE MAKING THE REAR SIDE OF THE BUILDING A 20:15:56 LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND MAYBE PUT THE SIGN THERE AND JUST 20:15:59 NOT SO PRPBTD-SETTING 20:16:03 PRECEDENT-SETTING 20:16:06 AND YET IN THE MEANTIME GIVE 20:16:09 THEM A LOT OF VISIBILITY. THIS IS NOT 20:16:13 THE PLACE TO DESIGN THE 20:16:19 SIGNS ON THE FLY BUT THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE 20:16:22 ENORMITY OF THE SIGN ON THE FREEWAY 20:16:26 THAT'S CURRENTLY PRETTY NATURAL LOOKING. 20:16:32 >> Planner Pullen: SO COMMISSIONER LIU, 20:16:36 PROMOTED YOU, SORRY 20:16:38 . >> Commissioner Liu: THANK YOU. 20:16:41 >> Planner Pullen: SORRY, CHAIR DAULTON. SO IF YOU WERE TO PUT 20:16:44 A SIGN ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, THAT'S ALLOWED 20:16:47 BY OUR CODE 20:16:51 THROUGH STANDARD RULES. BUT THE SIZE IS 20:16:54 SOMEWHAT LIMITED BECAUSE IT'S 20:16:57 AT A PRIMARY FRONTAGE. AND I DON'T HAVE 20:17:00 THAT FIGURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD 20:17:03 . JAMES MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO RESEARCH. 20:17:06 BUT A SIGN ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT 20:17:10 TO COMMISSION REVIEW. THEY COULD MAXIMIZE THAT AND IT 20:17:13 MIGHT PROVIDE AS JAMES MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT OF VISIBILITY 20:17:16 BUT AGAIN THE INTENT OF THE APPLICANT IS TO GET A HIGHER 20:17:20 LEVEL OF VISIBILITY FROM DIRECT FREEWAY EXPOSURE 20:17:24 . I THINK THAT THE -- JAMES, I'M GOING 20:17:27 OFF MEMORY FROM THE REPORT BUT I THINK 20:17:31 THAT THE ACTUAL 20:17:34 -- THE DOWN GRADE FROM THE FREEWAY IS 20:17:37 ABOUT 13 FEET. AND THE DISTANCE 20:17:41 , I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER. BUT THE FREEWAY HEIGHT 20:17:44 OF 40 FEET, THAT PLACES THE TOP OF THE 20:17:47 SIGN AT 27-ISH 20:17:50 AND THEN THE SIGN COPY PROBABLY 20:17:54 BETWEEN -- DEPENDING HOW TALL THE SIGN IS, 20:17:58 MAYBE THE SIGN IS ABOUT EIGHT OR TEN FEET TALL, SO 20:18:01 MAYBE THE SIGN IS ABOUT 19 TO 27 FEET OFF GRADE 20:18:03 GRADE. IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT JAMES? 20:18:06 I WANT TO GIVE THE COMMISSION THE LAY OF THE LAND FOR BUILDING 20:18:09 OPTION AND THE FRAIMENT WORK FOR THAT AND 20:18:12 FRAMEWORK FOR THAT AND WHERE 20:18:15 THE SIGN LAYS IN SPACE. JAMES ANY CLARIFICATION 20:18:18 ? >> YES, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY CORRECT. 20:18:21 >> Planner Pullen: JAMES DO YOU KNOW THE SIGN LIMIT FOR THE BUILDING -- THE BUILDING 20:18:24 IS ONLY AT 40 FEET. THE BUILDING COULD BE BY OUR 20:18:28 STANDARD CODE EXTENDED TO 75 FEET IN HEIGHT 20:18:32 . AND SO ASSIGN ON 20:18:35 AA 20:18:41 A 20:18:44 SIGN ON THAT COULD BE ALLOWED FOR A STANDARD RULE. 20:18:48 >> AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING MOUNTED SIGN IS 20:18:51 ALLOWED TO BE HALF GAIR 20:18:55 FOOT, ONE HALF TIMES THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING 20:18:58 FRONTAGE PARALLEL WITH THE FREEWAY 20:19:02 , MAXIMUM 200 SQUARE FEET. IN THIS CASE 20:19:06 , LET ME SEE WHAT THE BUILDING'S WIDTH WAS IF 20:19:09 I CAN FIND THAT 20:19:12 . I'LL HAVE TO LOOK FOR A MOMENT 20:19:15 IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS TO FIND THE WIDTH OF THE BUILDING. 20:19:18 OH HERE IT IS. >> Planner Pullen: AND THAT 20:19:21 WOULD BE THE -- ALL RIGHT. >> SORRY. THE BUILDING 20:19:24 IS ABOUT 1 20:19:28 40, A LITTLE 20:19:32 LESS THAN 140 FEET WIDE. SO THE SIGN WOULD BE LIMIT 20:19:35 ED TO ABOUT 20:19:39 60, 65 SQUARE FEET. 20:19:42 >> Planner Pullen: SO IF YOU SQUARE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 20:19:45 A SEVEN BY EIGHT OR SO 20:19:50 SQUARE ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, IS THAT RIGHT? 20:19:53 >> YES. >> Planner Pullen: BECAUSE IT'S SQUARE FEET. 20:19:56 >> YES. 20:20:03 >> Planner Pullen: FOR PERSPECTIVE. DOES THAT ANSWER THE 20:20:06 QUESTION, 20:20:10 COMMISSIONER LIU? >> Commissioner Liu: YEAH. 20:20:13 >> Commissioner Daulton: YES CAN I GET A MOTION PLEASE 20:20:16 ? >> Commissioner Rao: I HAVE A QUESTION. 20:20:19 >> Commissioner Daulton: YES. 20:20:22 >> Commissioner Rao: I WAS THINKING THE SIGN PERPENDICULAR 20:20:25 TO THE BUILDING NOT AS A PYLON BUT ATTACHED TO THE 20:20:28 BUILDING. FACING THIS WAY NOT THIS WAY BUT THIS WAY 20:20:32 . I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T 20:20:35 EXPLAIN THAT. RIGHT ANGLE TO THE BUILDING 20:20:38 . >> Planner Pullen: YES, I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION AND 20:20:41 WHILE IT'S SPECULATIVE BECAUSE I'M NOT A SIGN DESIGNER 20:20:44 AND I APOLOGIZE TO KELLY REID FROM 20:20:48 RAMSAY SIGNS BUT I'M GOING TO TRY. 20:20:51 IF YOU LAY OUT A SIGN YOU KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT 20:20:54 THE ANGLE SOMEONE'S GOING TO SEE IT FROM. AND 20:20:58 IF YOU REMEMBER, THE BUILDING SITE 20:21:02 IS KIND OF A PARALLELOGRAM. 20:21:05 AND IF YOU ARE COMING TO THE BUILDING 20:21:08 WITH THE BUILDING SET IN YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE 20:21:12 TO SEE THE SIGN THIS WAY VERSUS THIS WAY, I DON'T KNOW, 20:21:15 YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SITE LINES AND THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS 20:21:18 . IT WOULD BE HARD TO SAY WHETHER THAT WOULD BE BETTER OFF THE 20:21:21 CUFF OR NOT. IF THAT WERE CLOSE DEFINITELY THAT 20:21:26 WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE SIDE OF THE 20:21:29 BUILDING. 20:21:32 >> Commissioner Liu: MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO, 20:21:36 CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE SIGN 20:21:40 WHICH ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INPUT TO TAKE MORE 20:21:43 SURVEYS FROM THE PUBLIC 20:21:47 ? >> Planner Pullen: LET ME SPEAK TO THAT 20:21:50 . SO COMMISSIONER LIU, APPROVE 20:21:53 ING THE SIGN WOULD NEED TO BE SPECIFIC AS TO 20:21:57 WHAT THE SIGN IS GOING TO BE. IF YOU 20:22:00 WANT ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INPUT, WE WOULDN'T 20:22:03 KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE UNTIL WE GET IT. AND SO 20:22:06 IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT'S A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE 20:22:10 . TO GET MORE INPUT BEFORE BRINGING IT BACK 20:22:13 FOR REVIEW. 20:22:16 AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK A COUPLE THINGS 20:22:19 I'D WANT TO RECOMMEND IF YOU WERE TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD 20:22:22 AS A COMMISSION, ONE WOULD BE FOR YOU TO GIVE YOUR 20:22:25 OWN FEEDBACK ABOUT THE SIGN 20:22:29 TO THE APPLICANT AS DIRECTION. ONE 20:22:33 WOULD BE TO IDENTIFY TIME FRAME 20:22:36 WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT BACK 20:22:40 . >> Commissioner Liu: YES. >> Planner Pullen: AND THEN I 20:22:43 THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO GET THE APPLICANT'S 20:22:46 INPUT ON SUCH A MOTION. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW 20:22:50 WHAT THEY'RE OPEN TO. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO 20:22:53 GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM, TO 20:22:56 REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, IF THE 20:23:00 COMMISSION WANTS TO GO THAT WAY. >> Commissioner Liu: SO 20:23:03 I MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS SIGN 20:23:06 DECISION WITH MORE STUDY AND MORE PUBLIC INPUT 20:23:10 . 20:23:14 >> Commissioner Steckler: I SECOND. I SECOND THE MOTION. 20:23:17 >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT. CAN WE HAVE A VOTE ON THAT JOEL 20:23:22 ? >> Planner Pullen: SO IT WOULD BE GOOD -- SO THERE'S 20:23:24 BEEN SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION SO FAR. 20:23:27 DOES THE COMMISSION WANT TO GIVE ANY MORE DIRECTION ON WHAT 20:23:30 THEY CONSIDER WOULD BE SUFFICIENT PUBLIC OUTREACH 20:23:34 OR INPUT ON THAT? OR DO YOU WANT 20:23:38 TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE APPLICANT BEFORE MAKING THAT MOTION OR DO YOU WANT TO 20:23:42 JUST VOTE ON IT? >> Commissioner Daulton: 20:23:45 ANYONE? I SAY 20:23:48 LET'S GO FOR A VOTE. 20:23:55 >> MAYBE WE CAN JUST A SUGGESTION, MAYBE WE CAN HELP THE 20:23:58 COMMISSION OUT AND IF I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER LIU IS 20:24:01 THAT YOU WANT SOME NOR VISUAL STUDIES HERE. 20:24:05 AND THERE WAS A MEDICATION OF STORY POLLS 20:24:09 AND MAYBE PHOTOSIMULATIONS FROM THE FREEWAY TO HELP 20:24:12 YOU WITH A DECISION WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK THE SIGN, 20:24:15 THE DESIGN, THE HEIGHT AND THE SIZE IS APPROPRIATE 20:24:18 . IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT 20:24:21 -- >> Commissioner Liu: RIGHT, I THINK THAT'S CORRECT. 20:24:24 >> YEAH, AND I THINK IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN THAT'S THE DIRECTION 20:24:27 THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO THE APPLICANT AND THEY 20:24:31 CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, 20:24:34 PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DIGITAL 20:24:37 ANALYSIS AND BRING THAT BACK TO THE COMMISSION 20:24:41 . >> Planner Pullen: AND DO SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH. 20:24:44 I'M GUESSING THAT MEANS FROM WHAT I CAN GATHER, 20:24:47 COMMISSIONER LIU, MAYBE TALKING TO NEIGHBORS 20:24:51 AND ADJACENT PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO VIEW THE SIGN 20:24:54 ? AND GETTING FEEDBACK? >> Commissioner Liu: YES. 20:24:58 SOME KIND OF -- I GUESS SIMULATION 20:25:04 , SHOWING WHAT THE DRIVERS COULD SEE 20:25:07 , GOING NORTHBOUND, SOUTHBOUND, 680. 20:25:12 >> Planner Pullen: THIS IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE 20:25:15 PEOPLE, FOCUSED ON THE VISUAL 20:25:19 LIKE RICK WAS SAYING, STORY POLES, 20:25:22 PERSPECTIVE DRAWINGS. WE GOT IT. 20:25:25 SORRY TO BEG 20:25:29 YOUR FORGIVENESS DAULTON. 20:25:32 >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. LET'S HAVE A VOTE. 20:25:38 JOEL YOU WANT TO CALL THE ROLL? 20:25:40 >> Planner Pullen: SORRY ABOUT THAT. 20:25:43 MY DEVICE WITH MY 20:25:47 LIST TIMED OUT. I APOLOGIZE 20:25:50 . ONE MOMENT. THERE WE GO 20:25:53 , ALL RIGHT, ON THE MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM, TO 20:25:56 ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO DO 20:26:00 ADDITIONAL VISUAL SIMULATION AND COMMUNITY OUT 20:26:03 REACH. 20:26:07 BY COMMISSIONER LIU, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER STECKLER I BELIEVE 20:26:10 . WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME PLEASE STATE YOUR VOTE 20:26:13 . CHAIR DAULTON, NO 20:26:16 . VICE CHAIR RAO 20:26:19 , AYE. COMMISSIONER YEE, NO 20:26:23 . COMMISSIONER STECKLER. AYE 20:26:26 . COMMISSIONER LIU. AYE 20:26:30 . SO -- 20:26:34 AND COMMISSIONER ZHANG. 20:26:36 >> Commissioner Zhang: AYE. JUST WANT TO SEE MORE. 20:26:41 >> Planner Pullen: ALL RIGHT. SO TRADITION, DO YOU HAVE 20:26:48 TRISH, DO YOU HAVE A RECORD OF THE VOTE? 20:26:51 I WAS READING, NOT MARKING. 20:26:55 >> JOEL, IT'S TRISH. I WASN'T MARKING IT 20:26:58 MYSELF. I APOLOGIZE. >> Planner Pullen: 20:27:01 OKAY SO I HAD DAULTON AS -- CHAIR DAULTON 20:27:04 AS A NO. VICE CHAIR RAO AS AN 20:27:08 AYE. I 20:27:11 HAD COMMISSIONER YEE AS A NO. I 20:27:15 HAD COMMISSIONER STECKLER 20:27:18 AS ANNAL AYE. COMMISSIONER LIU AS 20:27:21 AN AYE. 20:27:26 COMMISSIONER ZHANG AS AN AYE. IF THAT WAS 20:27:29 CORRECT IT WOULD BE 4-TWO. 20:27:32 2 20:27:37 . >> Commissioner Zhang: I'M SORRY, THIS IS MY FIRST 20:27:40 TIME. CAN I HAVE A CLARIFICATION MOTION, 20:27:43 THAT MEANS THE CITY IS GOING TO BRING THAT TOPIC 20:27:47 BACK SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE AND PRESENT THE VICIALTZED ITEM 20:27:50 AND DECIDE GO OR NO GO IS THAT CORRECT? 20:27:53 >> Planner Pullen: NO, NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN UNTIL WE COME BACK 20:27:56 TO THE COMMISSION BASED ON THE VOTE. SO 4-2, 20:28:00 THE ACTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM, 20:28:03 HAS BEEN APPROVED. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ACTION ON 20:28:06 THIS ITEM IS TO PUSH THE ITEM 20:28:09 TO AN UPCOMING AGENDA. WE'LL RENOTICE THE 20:28:13 ITEM AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR REVIEW 20:28:17 . AND FOR FINAL DECISION 20:28:20 . SO I APPRECIATE THE COMMISSION'S REVIEW 20:28:23 OF THE ITEM AND THAT ITEM IS CONCLUDED. 20:28:26 BACK TO YOU, CHAIR. >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL 20:28:30 RIGHT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE EN 20:28:34 CORE PLUS STUDIOS C.U.P. 20:28:37 DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ON THIS ITEM 20:28:41 ? >> Planner Pullen: ONCE AGAIN CHAIR, THE PROJECT 20:28:44 PLANNER JAMES WILLIS IS AVAILABLE 20:28:47 WITH GRAPHICS AND INFORMATION. BUT DOESN'T NEED 20:28:50 TO DO A FORMAL PRESENTATION FOR THIS 20:28:53 ITEM. LET ME START BY READING THE ITEM. 20:28:56 ENCORE PLUS STUDIO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, IS 20:29:00 A PROJECT AT 20:29:03 46132 WARM SPRINGS BOULEVARD -- 20:29:07 THIS IS TO CONSIDER A 20:29:08 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW BEER AND WINE SALES AT AN 20:29:11 EXISTING KARAOKE STUDIO LOCATED 20:29:14 AT 46132 WARM SPRINGS BOULEVARD 20:29:16 IN THE WARM SPRINGS COMMUNITY PLAN AREA, AND TO CONSIDER A 20:29:19 FINDING OF CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION 20:29:23 IN CEQA 20:29:28 PURSUANT TO CEQA GUIDELINES 20:29:33 SECTION 15301 AND 15183 20:29:37 . AFTER JAMES IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF THE COMMISSION 20:29:40 WANTS TO ASK HIM ANY QUESTIONS THE APPLICANT WOULD BE 20:29:43 GIVEN ORDINARILY TEN MINUTES 20:29:46 , FOLLOWING 20:29:49 ANY 20:29:53 PUBLIC INPUT AND FOLLOWED BY 20:29:57 FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. 20:30:01 GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER. >> Commissioner Daulton: 20:30:04 COMMISSIONERS DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JAMES OF THIS ITEM 20:30:06 ITEM? I DON'T SEE DESTINY QUESTIONS. 20:30:12 SO 20:30:20 TRISH DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC 20:30:23 INPUT ON THIS IDEA? >> Commissioner Yee: I DO HAVE 20:30:27 A QUESTION, WE DO HAVE ONE OF FREMONT'S FINEST 20:30:30 WITH US, CORRECT, FREMONT POLICE? >> Planner Pullen: YES, 20:30:34 SORRY COMMISSIONER YEE, WE INVITED MICHELLE 20:30:37 GRISSE WHO IS OUR 20:30:40 REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON MATTERS RELATED TO 20:30:43 DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND SHE'S AVAILABLE IF NEEDED FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT 20:30:46 . THIS IS THE PROJECT WHERE YOU CAN SEE FROM 20:30:51 THE REPORT, THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT 20:30:54 GETS INVOLVED IN, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS ABOUT ALCOHOL 20:30:57 SERVICE AND USES LIKE KARAOKE USE PERMIT 20:31:00 . SO SHE'S AVAILABLE IF NECESSARY AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO 20:31:03 ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF SHE'S ONE OF THE STAFF. 20:31:06 >> Commissioner Yee: OKAY, PERFECT BECAUSE YEAH, I SAW ON THE STAFF 20:31:09 REPORT THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN DMI REPORT 20:31:12 ED INCIDENCES FOR THIS PLACE 20:31:15 OF BUSINESS SINCE I THINK 20:31:18 IT WAS 2019, IS THAT CORRECT? >> IT 20:31:22 WAS 2017. >> Commissioner Yee: 20:31:25 OH EVEN FURTHER BAKE, 2017 20:31:28 . BUT THAT'S A REPORTED FOR FREMONT POLICE 20:31:31 ACTUALLY HAS ON RECORD BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I DID HAVE A 20:31:34 CHANCE TO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW BUT I HAD A CHANCE 20:31:37 TO SPEAK WITH A NUMBER OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA AND THEY 20:31:40 DID SHARE WITH ME ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AK THAT THERE 20:31:44 WAS AN INCIDENT AT THAT PLACE OF 20:31:47 BUSINESS, THERE WAS A GUNSHOT THAT WAS ACTUALLY FIRED 20:31:50 AND POLICE DID ARRIVE SO CAN YOU CLARIFY WITH ME IF THERE WAS 20:31:53 SOMETHING LIKE THAT ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO 20:31:57 ? 20:32:05 >> THERE IS NO REPORT OF THAT BUT LET ME DO ONE MORE CHECK 20:32:08 AND GET BACK TO YOU. 20:32:11 >> Commissioner Yee: I WAS TOLD THEY WERE TOLD TO CLOSE. 20:32:14 I HAVE BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THE PLACE 20:32:17 OPEN SO I'M TRYING TO GET CLARITY IF THIS 20:32:21 ESTABLISHMENT ACTUALLY HAD AN INCIDENT THERE OR NOT. 20:32:24 YOU KNOW LAST MONTH IT WAS PROBABLY 20:32:27 -- SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS NOT REPORTED 20:32:29 . >> Planner Pullen: IN ADDITION TO THE FEEDBACK FROM THE POLICE 20:32:33 DEPARTMENT, THE APPLICANT HAS A CHANCE TO PRESENT, THE 20:32:36 APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE 20:32:39 MORE INFORMATION ON IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE 20:32:42 VICINITY OR AT THE BUSINESS 20:32:45 . BUT IF MICHELLE FROM POLICE DEPARTMENT 20:32:49 IS ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION THAT'S GREAT 20:32:52 . >> Commissioner Yee: OKAY. >> Commissioner Daulton: 20:32:55 SO CAN I DIRECT THAT 20:32:58 DIRECT AT THE ENCORE PLUS 20:33:01 REPRESENTATIVE? IS THAT POSSIBLE? >> Planner Pullen: 20:33:04 I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THEM 20:33:08 PRESENT IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER INITIAL QUESTIONS OF 20:33:10 STAFF. >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY. 20:33:13 >> Commissioner Yee: WAIT, I STILL. >> Commissioner Daulton: GO 20:33:16 AHEAD. >> Commissioner Yee: STILL WAITING FOR POOR MICHELLE. 20:33:19 BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE STAFF REPORT THEY TALK ABOUT BEING ABLE 20:33:22 TO ONLY PROVIDE TO ALCOHOL OVER AT THE FRONT 20:33:25 DESK AND NOT INTO THOSE KARAOKE ROOMS. 20:33:28 THE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK IS HOW TO MAKE SURE 20:33:31 THAT THAT ENVIRONMENT DOES HAPPEN LIKE THAT. 20:33:34 HOW IS IT BEING MONITORED SO THAT 20:33:37 ALCOHOL, BEER AND WINE IS ONLY BEING DISTRIBUTED 20:33:40 AT THAT FRONT DESK AND FRONT DESK ONLY AND 20:33:43 NOT BEING BROUGHT INTO THOSE KARAOKE ROOMS 20:33:48 ? 20:33:50 >> Commissioner Daulton: IS YOUR QUESTION DIRECTED TO 20:33:53 MICHELLE OR -- >> Commissioner Yee: YES. >> Commissioner Daulton: THE 20:33:56 APPLICANT? >> Commissioner Yee: IT WAS ACTUALLY DIRECTED TO MICHELLE 20:33:59 BECAUSE I WANTED TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THE FREMONT POLICE, HOW DO THEY 20:34:02 MAKE SURE TO MONITOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> Commissioner Daulton: 20:34:05 I SEE, OKAY. DO WE WANT TO -- 20:34:08 OH SHE'S BACK. OKAY. >> SORRY I WAS TRYING TO READ 20:34:11 THE INCIDENT THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT 20:34:15 . HANG ON A SEC. LOOKS 20:34:19 LIKE JANUARY 23 AN INCIDENT OCCURRED. 20:34:22 BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IT WAS IN THE PARKING LOT SO 20:34:25 IT'S NOT DESIGNATED AS HAVING OCCURRED AT THAT INCIDENT 20:34:30 . DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT 20:34:33 WASN'T AT THAT PARTICULAR UNIT. >> Commissioner Yee: I 20:34:36 UNDERSTAND. >> THEY WERE JUST DISPATCHED TO THE PARKING LOT FOR 20:34:39 A SHOOTING. I DON'T BELIEVE THEY FOUND ANYONE OR ANY VICTIM 20:34:44 . 20:34:50 >> Commissioner Yee: SO YOUR REPORT 20:34:53 DOESN'T CLARIFY IF IT EMANATED FROM THIS BUSINESS OR NOT 20:34:55 ? >> I JUST FOUND THE INCIDENT DETAIL. 20:34:58 I NEED TO READ THE REPORT NOW 20:35:01 . WHAT WAS THE QUESTION, I HEARD YOU ASK A QUESTION. 20:35:04 >> Commissioner Yee: THE OTHER QUESTIONS I WANTED TO ASK THE STAFF 20:35:08 REPORT SAYS THE ALCOHOL IS TO BE DISTRIBUTED AT THE 20:35:11 FRONT DESK AND THE FRONT DESK ONLY. HOW DO 20:35:15 WE ASSURE THAT IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE AT THE 20:35:18 FRONT DESK? WHAT DO THE FREMONT POLICE DO, DO 20:35:21 THEY DO A SPOT INSPECTION, 20:35:24 BECAUSE PART OF THE CONDITIONAL USE 20:35:27 IS, THAT IT IS AT THE FRONT DESK ONLY AND 20:35:31 NOT IN THOSE KARAOKE ROOMS. >> THAT'S CORRECT. 20:35:34 BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHOEVER PURCHASES THAT ALCOHOL 20:35:37 CAN BRING IT TO THEIR ROOMS, IS THAT CORRECT? >> Commissioner Yee: 20:35:40 THAT'S RIGHT, YEAH, THEY PURCHASE IT AT THE FRONT DESK 20:35:44 AND THEY CAN BRING IT INTO THE ROOM. >> OKAY, 20:35:47 NO WE DON'T TYPICALLY DO SPOT CHECKS. IF 20:35:50 WE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT FROM THE LOCATION FOR 20:35:53 THINGS OUTSIDE OF COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR OWN PERMITTING 20:35:57 AND ABC LINES THEN WE 20:36:00 LICENSE WE WOULD 20:36:04 GO THERE AND INSPECT. 20:36:07 >> Planner Pullen: I CAN PROVIDE FOR THAT. 20:36:10 WE ARE ABOUT DUE FOR A STENO BREAK IN THE 20:36:13 VERY NEAR FUTURE. BUT I WANT THEM TO SAY THE CONDITIONS 20:36:16 REQUIRE THEM TO BE SERVED UP FRONT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE 20:36:19 PERSON WHO'S SERVING THE ALCOHOL BEING ABLE 20:36:23 TO VIEW THE PERSON, SEE IF THEY'RE DRUNK AND 20:36:25 DECIDE WHETHER TO REFUSE SERVICE. 20:36:28 IF THEY'RE IN A ROOM IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL 20:36:31 , BUNCH OF PEOPLE MAYBE, THEY BRING THE ALCOHOL 20:36:34 AND IT'S NOT A GOOD SITUATION. IT IS AN 20:36:38 ABC LICENSE IN THE END AND OUR CONDITION 20:36:41 OF APPROVAL BUT THE APPLICANT IS RESPONSIBLE TO ABC TO MAKE SURE 20:36:44 THAT THEY'RE DOING A VARIETY OF THINGS AND ONE OF THEM IS 20:36:47 NOT OVERSERVING PATRONS. WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF 20:36:51 AS A CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT OR ANY OTHER DIVISION TO BE AT 20:36:54 ANYPLACE OF BUSINESS THAT HAS AN ALCOHOL PERMIT AND THOSE 20:36:57 ARE ALWAYS COMPLAINT -- BASED AS IT WOULD BE IN THIS 20:37:00 CASE. >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK YOU, 20:37:03 JOEL, OKAY. AT THIS TIME I THINK WE DO NEED TO TAKE A BREAK 20:37:07 HERE. TRISH, CAN YOU GIVE US TEN MINUTES, IS THAT RIGHT 20:37:11 ? >> YES, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE TEN MINUTES. 20:37:13 >> Commissioner Daulton: AND WHEN WE COME BACK WE CAN HEAR 20:37:16 FROM THE APPLICANT I HOPE. >> JUST A REMINDER IF 20:37:19 EVERYBODY COULD MUTE THEMSELVES AND TURN OFF 20:37:22 THEIR VIDEO WHILE WE'RE ON BREAK. THANK YOU. 20:37:25 >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK YOU TRISH. [ RECESS ] 20:50:07 >> Commissioner Liu: CHAIR DAULTON, 20:50:10 . >> Commissioner Daulton: YES. >> Commissioner Liu: I'M SURE 20:50:14 YOU WOULD APPROVE THE SIGN IF IT WAS 20:50:18 100 TIMES LARGER THAN THE SABERCAT 20:50:23 PROJECT RIGHT? >> Commissioner Daulton: 20:50:26 COMMISSIONER LIU, I'M SURE I 20:50:29 WOULD NOT, I WOULD 20:50:33 GET A COMMENT FROM HEATHER IF I DID. 20:50:36 >> Planner Pullen: I THINK WE HAVE MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS BACK. 20:50:39 I'M COUNTING. 20:50:44 >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY, ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S 20:50:47 RECONVENE THIS MEETING. AND IF IT'S OKAY, WITH THE COMMISSIONER 20:50:50 S, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THERE THE APPLICANT 20:50:53 , MR. SHANKS. CHAIR RECOGNIZES YOU 20:50:57 . >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN 20:51:00 , CHAIRPERSON DAULTON. 20:51:03 >> EXCUSE ME, HOW MANY MINUTES DOES HE HAVE? 20:51:06 >> Commissioner Daulton: APPLICANT HAS TEN MINUTES. >> OKAY. 20:51:09 >> I WON'T TAKE TEN MINUTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION 20:51:12 TONIGHT. I'M REPRESENTING 20:51:16 THE APPLICANT, I'M ROGER SHANK 20:51:19 , LAND USE CONSULTANT 20:51:22 , WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT. THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT 20:51:26 MAKING THIS APPLICATION RUN SMOOTHLY. THERE WERE PROBLEMS 20:51:29 IN THE PAST WITH A PREVIOUS RNL. 20:51:32 OWNER. WORKING WITHIN 20:51:36 THE CONFINES OF THE COMMISSION. THE 20:51:39 STAFF REPORT IS VERY COMPLETE. SOME CONCERNS I'VE 20:51:43 BEEN HEAR IS THAT ON THE ALCOHOL THE SALES WOULD BE 20:51:46 OCCURRING AT THE FRONT DESK AND THEN THE PATRONS WOULD 20:51:49 TAKE IT BACK TO THE INDIVIDUAL ROOMS. 20:51:52 THEY CANNOT DELIVER THE DRINKS BACK TO THOSE ROOMS. AND 20:51:55 AS YOU SEE IN THE REPORT, ALL THE ROOMS HAVE TO 20:51:58 HAVE WINDOWS, SO THAT DESTINY ACTIVITY GOING ON WITHIN 20:52:02 THE KARAOKE ROOMS IS VISIBLE EASILY 20:52:04 AND READILY FROM ANYBODY IN THE HALLWAY. 20:52:07 SO THE STAFF CAN DO THAT. THERE 20:52:10 WILL ALWAYS BE TWO STAFF PERSONS ON 20:52:14 SITE AT EACH -- AT ANY ONE TIME. A 20:52:17 MANAGER PLUS SOMEBODY ELSE. AND THEY ALL HAVE TO BE OVER 20:52:21 21. SO THEIR JOB IS TO MONITOR 20:52:25 THE OPERATION ITSELF TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS RUN 20:52:28 NING SMOOTHLY. ON YOUR CONDITION NUMBER A- 20:52:32 4, REVOCATION OF PERMIT, HAD 20:52:35 THE PROVISION IN THERE THAT IF THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE CONDITION 20:52:38 OF APPROVABILITY SUCH AS THE ALCOHOL DISTRIBUTION, THIS 20:52:41 CAN COME BACK FOR REVOCATION. 20:52:44 THEY ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF THAT 20:52:47 AND VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING THIS THING WORK. THE ALCOHOL IS ADDED 20:52:50 FOR THE ENJOYMENT AND EXPANSION 20:52:55 OF THE USE FOR MORE PEOPLE TO ENJOY THIS KIND OF AN ACTIVITY 20:52:59 . SO WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF 20:53:02 THIS USE. THE ONSITE MANAGER IS 20:53:05 WITH US TONIGHT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM 20:53:10 . >> Commissioner Daulton: 20:53:11 YES, PLEASE. GO AHEAD. 20:53:17 >> HI, I'M THE MANAGER 20:53:20 OF THE ENCORE. ANY 20:53:23 QUESTION? >> Commissioner Daulton: WE COULD COME 20:53:26 BACK TO YOU WITH QUESTIONS. 20:53:30 >> OKAY. SO 20:53:33 I WANT TO SEND YOU, I 20:53:36 CAN COME BACK IF THERE IS ANYTHING I COULD TALK. 20:53:39 >> Commissioner Daulton: OKAY SOUND GOOD, ALL RIGHT. SO 20:53:42 MR. SHANKS IF YOU ARE DONE I WILL GO BACK TO THE COMMISSIONERS. 20:53:45 >> KEEP THIS SHORT AND SWEET. THERE IS NO NEED TO ELABORATE ON 20:53:48 THAT. I DON'T WANT TO SPEND TEN 20:53:51 MINUTES WASTING YOUR TIME. SO YEAH, I'LL PUT IT BACK TO YOU. 20:53:52 >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT. 20:53:55 COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? 20:53:58 BEN YEE, COMMISSIONER YEE, PLEASE. >> Commissioner Yee: YOU HEARD 20:54:02 ME EARLIER ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT THIS 20:54:05 INCIDENT, THAT NOW WE KNOW WAS 20:54:08 ON JANUARY 24th. DO YOU KNOW DESTINY DETAILS AS TO 20:54:11 WHAT TRANSPIRED ON THAT 24th THAT ACCORDING TO THE OTHER 20:54:14 BUSINESSES HAPPENED IN AND AROUND THE VICINITY 20:54:17 OF YOUR PLACE OF BUSINESS 20:54:21 ? 20:54:25 >> BEN, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? I DON'T HAVE THE ANNALS ON 20:54:28 THAT ONE. >> YES, SURE 20:54:32 . UP ON THAT DAY, ONE OF OUR CUSTOMER WAS LEAVING 20:54:35 AND IT WAS ARGUING IF A 20:54:38 CUSTOMER WAS IN THE PARKING LOT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY FIGHTING 20:54:41 ABOUT, I HEAR THE GUNSHOT, AND A COP JUST COME, 20:54:44 I DON'T HAVE MUCH DETAIL FOR THAT ONE. BUT 20:54:47 GUNSHOT IS ON THE PARKING LOT IS NOT ONLY A CUSTOMER 20:54:50 AND SOMEONE ELSE FROM ALL THE PEOPLE 20:54:53 PEOPLE. >> Commissioner Yee: OKAY SO 20:54:57 YOU'RE CORROBORATING WITH WHAT I WAS TOLD BY THE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE AREA 20:55:00 THAT IT WAS EMANATING FROM ONE OF YOUR CUSTOMERS 20:55:03 . I GUESS 20:55:06 THE OTHER THING IS THAT I WAS ALSO TOLD THAT 20:55:09 WHEN THE POLICE ARRIVED 20:55:13 AND ASCERTAINED THE SITUATION, THE OTHER 20:55:17 BUSINESS OWNERS TOLD ME THAT YOUR PLACE OF BUSINESS WAS TO BE 20:55:19 TEMPORARILY CLOSED. IS THAT CURRENTLY THE STATE 20:55:23 RIGHT NOW, OR ARE YOU BACK UP AND IN 20:55:26 OPERATIONS AND OPEN AGAIN? >> 20:55:29 WE ARE TEMPORARILY CLOSED BUT NOT 20:55:32 BECAUSE -- WE HAVE TO UPDATE OUR SERVER. 20:55:35 IT IS NOT BECAUSE WE ARE TEMPORARILY CLOSED BY THE POLICE 20:55:37 POLICE. >> Commissioner Yee: OKAY, 20:55:40 OKAY, THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY I WENT THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES, AS A MATTER OF FACT 20:55:43 I WENT LIKE AROUND 10:30 AT NIGHT 20:55:46 THINKING THAT YOU WOULD BE OPEN AND OF COURSE YOU WERE CLOSED 20:55:49 . OKAY THANK YOU. >> YEAH, BECAUSE ONE OF MY 20:55:52 EMPLOYEE WAS SICK AND IT'S A CHINESE NEW YEAR SO 20:55:55 I HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER STATE TO BE WITH MY 20:55:58 FAMILY SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE CLOSING ALSO FOR THE UP 20:56:01 DATE FOR SERVER. >> Commissioner Yee: OKAY, ALL 20:56:04 RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> Commissioner Daulton: ANY 20:56:06 OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? 20:56:12 I DO SEE THAT MICHELLE HAS HER HAND RAISED 20:56:15 . MICHELLE DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT? 20:56:18 DID YOU READ THAT REPORT? 20:56:22 >> YES, I READ AS MUCH AS I COULD. 20:56:25 IT'S A LOT TO READ. THE INCIDENT OCCURRED ON JANUARY 20:56:28 23rd, 2022 AT ABOUT 1:00 IN THE MORNING 20:56:32 . INITIAL REPORTS OF A SHOOTING IN THE PARKING 20:56:35 LOT. THE OFFICERS DID RESPOND, AND 20:56:38 DETERMINED THAT IT WAS ASSOCIATED TO THE BUSINESS 20:56:42 . AND CONDUCTED A SEARCH OF INSIDE THE 20:56:45 BUSINESS AND LOCATED EVIDENCE THAT THE GUNSHOTS 20:56:49 OCCURRED BOTH WITHIN AND OUTSIDE THE BUSINESS 20:56:52 , AND FOUND EVIDENCE OF 20:56:55 DRINKING ALREADY OCCURRING IN 20:56:58 MULTIPLE ROOMS. AND 20:57:02 THEN 20:57:08 HAD TO CONTACT AN EMPLOYEE ONSITE THAT WAS FOUND 20:57:11 TO BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE AND ARRESTED. 20:57:13 >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT. 20:57:16 COMMISSIONER LIU DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED? >> Commissioner Liu: YES I DID 20:57:19 DID. I WAS GOING TO ASK 20:57:23 MR. TAM, DID YOU HAVE ANY PREVIOUS 20:57:26 EXPERIENCE RUNNING ANOTHER 20:57:30 RESTAURANT OR SOME KARAOKE THAT ACTUALLY 20:57:33 SERVED ALCOHOL? >> NO. 20:57:36 I HAVE BEEN WORKING AT 20:57:39 RESTAURANT BEFORE BUT THEY DON'T SERVE ALCOHOL. 20:57:42 THIS IS MY FIRST TIME TO RUN A KARAOKE 20:57:45 . >> Commissioner Liu: OKAY. SO ARE YOU AWARE OF THE 20:57:49 BEST PRACTICES IN YOU KNOW CHECKING OUT 20:57:52 ON THE CUSTOMERS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE 20:57:55 NOT DRUNK? AND 20:57:58 THEN AT WHAT POINT IN TIME DO YOU KNOW HOW TO STOP SERVING ALCOHOL TO 20:58:02 THEM? AND WHETHER YOU 20:58:05 HAVE PROCEDURES TO 20:58:09 STOP THEM FROM GETTING HARMED 20:58:14 OR HARMING OTHERS, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TAKING 20:58:17 THEIR KEYS? 20:58:20 IF THEY WANT TO DRINK ANY FURTHER? 20:58:23 >> YES. NORMALLY, WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE 20:58:27 WORKING AT ONE SHIFT. BUT I SAY MY 20:58:30 CO-WORKER WAS SICK AND THEY HAVE BEEN GONE 20:58:33 FOR A WEEK BY COVID. THAT'S WHY IT'S ONLY PERSON 20:58:37 WORKING THAT NIGHT. AND WE HAVE A WINDOW FOR 20:58:40 EVERY OF THE ROOMS SO WE ARE KEEP CHECKING 20:58:43 THE HALLWAY AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE IS DOING OKAY IN THE 20:58:46 ROOM. AND MY PEOPLE BEGIN TO YELLING 20:58:49 OR FIGHTING, MAYBE ABOUT TO FIGHT, WE WILL GO 20:58:53 IN AND STOP THEM AND JUST 20:58:56 CUT THEIR ROOM. WE ALSO PROVIDE 20:59:00 WE WILL CALL UBER FOR THEM IF THEY ARE TOO DRUNK 20:59:04 . >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT. 20:59:07 COMMISSIONER ZHANG. QUESTION FOR APPLICANT? >> Commissioner Zhang: I JUST 20:59:10 WANT TO CLARIFY FOR MICHELLE 20:59:14 , IS THE INCIDENT HAPPENED AT 1 A.M. 20:59:18 ? >> THAT'S CORRECT. 20:59:20 >> Commissioner Zhang: IS THE BUSINESS HOUR OF THE SITE 20:59:24 SUPPOSED TO BE MIDNIGHT, 12? 20:59:27 >> THAT'S NOT IN THE REPORT. I'M NOT SURE. 20:59:30 >> Commissioner Zhang: CAN OWNER CLARIFY THIS? 20:59:33 >> YES, WE CLOSE AT 12, WE ARE CLOSING UP 20:59:37 AT 12:30. BY THAT TIME ALL PEOPLE WAS 20:59:40 GO, ALL PEOPLE WAS NO ONE IN THE 20:59:43 KARAOKE ALREADY. EVERYONE WAS IN THE PARKING LOT 20:59:46 AND SOME OF THEM WAS FIGHTING. I WAS CLEANING UP 20:59:49 THE ROOM BY THAT TIME. 20:59:50 >> Commissioner Liu: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 20:59:55 >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 20:59:58 COMMISSIONER YEE, YES. >> Commissioner Yee: 21:00:02 THIS IS IN RELATION TO WHAT 21:00:05 THE OFFICER SAID? IS THAT THEY DETERMINED THAT 21:00:09 SOME OF THESE PATRONS HAD 21:00:12 ALCOHOL. AND I GUESS TO MR. TAM, THE 21:00:16 QUESTION IS FIRST OF ALL, HOW DID THEY OBTAIN IT? AND IF YOU 21:00:19 DON'T HAVE AN ALCOHOL 21:00:22 ALCOHOL, I MEAN A BEER AND WINE LICENSE, THE QUESTION 21:00:25 FOR ME WOULD BE WHY ARE YOU LETTING THESE CLIENTS 21:00:29 OR I MEAN THESE CUSTOMERS IN WITH ACCESSIBILITY TO ALCOHOL 21:00:33 ? 21:00:37 >> YES, THAT'S NOT MY FAULT THAT NIGHT BECAUSE 21:00:40 IT IS ONLY ONE PERSON, WE HAVE A BACK DOOR 21:00:43 OPEN AND SOME OF THEM MISTAKE BUT 21:00:46 NOT TOO MUCH. >> Commissioner Yee: 21:00:48 OKAY. >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL RIGHT. 21:00:51 IF THE APPLICANT HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE 21:00:54 US A SUM-UP? 21:00:59 >> YES. I THINK THE 21:01:02 OPERATION, I THINK THEY NEED TO BE WELL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT 21:01:05 THEY DO HAVE RESTRICTIONS. ON HOW TO RUN 21:01:09 THIS THING. AND GOING THROUGH 21:01:12 THIS I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO BE FOLLOWING THE REGULATIONS 21:01:15 , CLOSING TO THE PUBLIC BY MIDNIGHT AND CONTROL THE 21:01:18 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SERVICE AND NOT ALLOWING ALCOHOL TO BE BROUGHT 21:01:22 IN FROM THE OUTSIDE. A 21:01:25 PATRON CANNOT BRING THEIR OWN ALCOHOL IN. IT IS RESTRICT 21:01:28 ED TO SALE ONSITE ONLY. AND I THINK THEY ARE 21:01:31 GOING TO BE FOLLOWING THE REGULATION BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN BE 21:01:34 SHUT DOWN IF THEY DON'T. AND THIS IS AN OPERATION THAT 21:01:38 WILL BE OF BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. 21:01:41 ENHANCING THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENTERTAINMENT 21:01:45 AND ENJOYMENT FOR CITIZENS OF FREMONT. SO I WOULD 21:01:48 RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A VOTE OF APPROVAL 21:01:50 FOR THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. 21:01:53 >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK YOU, MR. SHANKS 21:01:56 . NOW THIS IS THE TIME IN WHICH WE ASK 21:01:59 FOR HEARING PUBLIC COMMENTS. TRISH DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS 21:02:02 ON THIS ITEM? 21:02:06 >> CHAIR DAULTON, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY RAISED HANDS FOR 21:02:08 ANYONE ASKING TO SPEAK TONIGHT. >> Commissioner Daulton: ALL 21:02:11 RIGHT, THANK YOU. SO 21:02:14 I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC MEETING 21:02:18 AT THIS TIME. AND HEAR FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONER 21:02:21 S OR COMMENTS. 21:02:28 >> Planner Pullen: COMMISSIONER, IT MAY BE NOT -- 21:02:31 ARE SORRY, CHAIR DAULTON, IT MAY NOT BE 21:02:34 RELEVANT BUT 21:02:38 WE DO GIVE THE APPLICANT 21:02:41 A CHANCE TO REBUT. I'M GUESSING THEY DO 21:02:44 NOT. DO THEY NEED THE FIVE MINUTES? YOU COULD 21:02:47 ASK. >> Commissioner Daulton: I BELIEVE I JUST GAVE THEM THE 21:02:51 CHANCE TO SUM UP. 21:02:53 MR. SHANKS DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO SAY? 21:02:56 >> NO I DON'T, THANK YOU. >> Commissioner Daulton: COMMISSIONERS, IF 21:03:00 THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS OR I WOULD ALSO LIKE A MOTION. 21:03:03 WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO 21:03:05 ? COMMISSIONER YEE? >> Commissioner Yee: YES, 21:03:08 WOULD I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THIS 21:03:11 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. >> Commissioner Daulton: CAN 21:03:15 I GET A SECOND? 21:03:17 >> Commissioner Steckler: I'LL SECOND. 21:03:21 >> Commissioner Daulton: DO WE CALL A VOTE? 21:03:26 JOEL 21:03:28 WILL YOU CALL A VOTE. >> Planner Pullen: WILL DO. 21:03:31 ONE MOMENT. 21:03:38 ALL RIGHT SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME ON A MOTION 21:03:41 BY COMMISSIONER YEE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER STECKLER. 21:03:45 TO DENY THE APPLICATION. PLEASE STATE YOUR VOTE 21:03:48 . CHAIR DAULTON. AYE 21:03:52 . VICE CHAIR RAO, AYE 21:03:55 . COMMISSIONER YEE. AYE 21:03:58 . COMMISSIONER STECKLER. AYE 21:04:01 . COMMISSIONER LIU. AYE 21:04:05 . AND COMMISSIONER ZHANG. AYE. 21:04:08 ALL RIGHT SO THE VOTE IS UNANIMOUS. THE PROJECT'S 21:04:12 BEEN DENIED. THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ACTION ON THIS ITEM 21:04:15 IS FINAL UNLESS APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITHIN TEN CALENDAR DAYS 21:04:18 . CHAIR, I DO WANT TO JUST NOTE. I 21:04:22 WAS SURPRISED AT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED DURING THE HEARING 21:04:24 . >> Commissioner Daulton: AS WAS I. 21:04:27 >> Planner Pullen: THE TIME FRAME FOR REVIEW OF A REPORT TAKES 21:04:31 US THROUGH INTO JANUARY, AND RIGHT 21:04:35 UP TO THE WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING 21:04:38 . AND IT APPEARS THAT THE ADDITIONAL 21:04:41 INFORMATION HAPPENED RELATIVELY SOON BEFORE THE MEETING. 21:04:44 NOW, COMPOUNDING THAT, I JUST WANT 21:04:49 TO BE -- TO SAY THIS BECAUSE MICHELLE IS NEW TO OUR 21:04:52 REVIEW. THE 21:04:55 PREVIOUS REVIEWER FOR POLICE DEPARTMENT 21:04:59 WAS TRANSITIONING OVER TO MICHELLE AND HAD 21:05:02 RECENTLY LEFT THE CITY. AND SO THROUGH A VARIETY OF 21:05:05 FACTORS, I THINK THAT VERY LATE-BREAKING REPORT DIDN'T 21:05:08 MAKE ITS WAY TO 21:05:11 OUR AND YOUR HANDS. SO I'M GLAD WE GOT THE INFORMATION, 21:05:15 WAS ABLE TO INFORM YOUR 21:05:19 DELIBERATION, AND WE WILL ALWAYS TRY TO GET YOU 21:05:22 THE MOST 21:05:24 RELEVANT AND QUICK INFORMATION. >> Commissioner Daulton: THANK 21:05:28 YOU TO THE INDEFATIGABLE 21:05:33 COMMISSIONER YEE FOR FERRETING OUT THOSE ITEMS 21:05:37 . I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON 21:05:40 TO MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM STAFF? 21:05:43 >> Planner Pullen: THE ONE UPDATE I WANT TO GIVE IS YOU'LL BE 21:05:46 RECEIVING AN E-MAIL TOMORROW ASKING IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND 21:05:49 THE P PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ACADEMY TRAINING 21:05:52 THAT'S HAPPENING IN SAN 21:05:56 RAMON ON MARCH 16th THROUGH 18th AND IF SO THEN ALL 21:05:59 YOU HAVE TO DO IS LET TRISH KNOW AND WE'LL GO AHEAD 21:06:03 AND REGISTER YOU. IT IS AN IN-PERSON COMMITMENT 21:06:06 . THOUGH IT'S VERY CLOSE AND SO NEAR YOUR 21:06:09 HOME. AND SO IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT THEN YOU 21:06:12 ARE ABLE TO ATTEND THAT. AND 21:06:15 THE CITY REALLY ENCOURAGES YOU TO LEARN THE NEW 21:06:18 EST INFORMATION ABOUT STATE LAWS AND 21:06:21 SORT OF 21:06:24 HOW COMMISSIONS OPERATE FOR THE NEW 21:06:28 COMMISSIONER THAT WILL BE A REALLY GOOD TIME AND GOOD 21:06:32 REFRESHER FOR OTHERS IF THEY'RE SO INTERESTED. 21:06:36 THAT CONCLUDES MY UPSTAIRS. 21:06:39 UPDATES 21:06:42 . >> Commissioner Daulton: WHERE IS THAT JOEL? 21:06:45 >> Planner Pullen: SAN A 21:06:48 RAMON 21:06:52 . >> Commissioner Daulton: ANY 21:06:56 DOCUMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? I WOULD LIKE TO CONCLUDE 21:06:59 BY WELCOMING COMMISSIONER ZHANG TO OUR MIDST 21:07:02 AND SAYING GOOD NIGHT TO YOU ALL