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OFFICE AT 510-284-4060.

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EMAILS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY 

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CLERK ARE COMPILED, DISTRIBUTED 

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TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF 

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AND PUBLISHED IN THE CITY'S 

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AGENDA CENTER ON FREMONT.GOV.

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AND WILL BE PLACED ON FILE AND 

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CONSIDERED PART OF THE PUBLIC 

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RECORD.

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I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT 

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THE MEETING WILL GO UP TO 11:30 

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P.M. THIS EVENING.

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WE WILL ALLOW 30 MINUTES FOR 

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GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

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IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS 

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FOR ORAL COMMUNICATIONS, WE WILL 

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TAKE THOSE AFTER THE 30 MINUTES, 

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WE'LL BE TAKING THOSE SPEAKERS 

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AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

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I WOULD LIKE TO NOW TURN THE 

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MEETING OVER TO CITY MANAGER 

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KARENA SHACKELFORD, TO MAKE ANY 

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ANNOUNCEMENTS AND TO INTRODUCE 

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HER STAFF AT THIS TIME.

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: THANK 

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YOU, VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL.

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GOOD EVENING TO YOU AND GOOD 

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EVENING TO MEMBERS OF THE 

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COUNCIL AND THOSE WHO ARE 

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JOINING US VIRTUALLY, 

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO AND MAYOR 

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MEI.

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BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION THIS 

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EVENING, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO 

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INTRODUCE CITY ATTORNEY RAFAEL 

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ALVARADO TO MY LEFT, AND ACROSS 

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FROM US ARE OUR CITY CLERK 

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OFFICE STAFF, CITY CLERK SUSAN 

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GAUTHIER, AND ASSISTANT CITY 

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CLERK DINA LEWIS.

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BY WAY OF ANNOUNCEMENT,

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 ANNOUNCEMENTS, EXCUSE ME, WITH 

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THE HOLIDAYS BEING UPON US, I 

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WANT TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY AWARE 

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OF SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE 

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COMING UP, SO LET ME PUT ON MY 

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GLASSES.

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SO ON THE -- WELL, LET ME START 

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FIRST BY ANNOUNCING THAT ON 

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FEBRUARY -- NOVEMBER 15TH, THIS 

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NOVEMBER AT OLIVE HEIGHT ART 

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GALLERY, THERE WILL BE A 

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CONNECTING ARTS RECEPTION, ALL 

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THESE THINGS I'M GOING TO SHARE 

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WITH YOU ARE LISTED ON OUR 

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WEBSITE.

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ON NOVEMBER 16TH, THIS COMING 

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SATURDAY, FROM 10:00 A.M. TO 

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3:00 P.M., THERE IS THE 

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DOMINICAN SISTERS HOLIDAY 

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BOUTIQUE.

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ALSO SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, WE 

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HAVE THE NILES HOLIDAY SEASON 

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KICKOFF SALE, SO PLEASE VISIT 

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THAT VERY VIBRANT COMMERCIAL 

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DISTRICT AND PICK UP SOME 

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HOLIDAY GIFTS.

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AND FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO SHARE 

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THAT ON NOVEMBER 30TH, THAT'S A 

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SATURDAY, IS SMALL BUSINESS 

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SATURDAY.

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SO PLEASE COME OUT AND VISIT OUR 

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SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN THE 

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CITY OF FREMONT, AND SUPPORT 

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THEM.

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THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU, CITY MANAGER.

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MRS. GAUTHIER, CITY CLERK, I'M 

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NOTICING THAT CLOSED CAPTION IS 

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NOT WORKING.

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I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD PLEASE 

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HAVE THAT UP?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THE CAPTIONER 

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IS ON.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: OKAY.

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WE'LL MOVE NOW TO THE CONSENT 

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CALENDAR.

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BEFORE I DO THAT, I'D LIKE TO 

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MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WE 

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HAVE -- I'D LIKE THE CITY 

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ATTORNEY TO READ THE FULL TITLE 

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OF TWO ORDINANCES THAT ARE ON 

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THE CONSENT CALENDAR, 2C AND 

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2D.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: 2D IS BEING 

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REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT 

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CALENDAR.

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WE HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FOR 2D, 

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LIKE DAVID.

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AND 2E, EDWARD.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: OKAY.

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WOULD ANY OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS 

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LIKE TO REMOVE

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 OR -- I SEE YOU'RE IN THE CUE.

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DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING 

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ABOUT A CONSENT ITEM?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: MICROPHONE, 

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PLEASE.

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I CAN'T HEAR DOWN HERE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: OKAY.

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DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER -- OKAY.

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SO WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE

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 THE CONSENT CALENDAR BY READING 

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THE ORDINANCE OF 2C, AND THEN 2D 

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AND 2E ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED, 

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IS THAT CORRECT?

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THANK YOU.

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>> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: ITEM 

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2C, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF 

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FREMONT AMENDING FREMONT 

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MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 2.20.560 

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TO AMEND THE COMPOSITION OF THE 

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PATTERSON HOUSE ADVISORY BOARD.

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THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: I'M SORRY, IS 

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YOUR MICROPHONE ON?

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>> Councilmember Cox: I'LL MAKE 

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A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD -- 

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MINUS 2C, 2D AND 2E.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: ACTUALLY 

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IT'S JUST THE ONE, 2D AND 2E.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: I 

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SECOND.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: SO THE 

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MOTION WAS BY COUNCILMEMBER COX, 

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SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER 

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SALWAN.

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PLEASE VOTE.

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WE WILL HAVE TO DO A ROLL CALL 

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VOTE, PLEASE.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: CORRECT.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: COUNCILMEMBER 

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COX, COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG, AYE.

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VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL, AYE.

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MAYOR MEI, AYE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: WE CAN 

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TAKE THE SPEAKERS NOW.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: WE TYPICALLY GO 

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ON TO ORAL COMMUNICATIONS AND 

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THEN HEAR CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 

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AFTER ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: OKAY, 

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WE'LL STAY ON CUE.

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DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS 

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FOR ORAL COMMUNICATIONS?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: I BELIEVE 9?

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: SO FOR 

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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS, THIS IS FOR 

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ANY PERSON DESIRING TO SPEAK ON 

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A MATTER THAT IS NOT SCHEDULED 

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ON THIS AGENDA MAY DO SO UNDER 

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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.

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PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

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COMMUNICATION RECEIVED BY EMAIL 

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WILL BE PLACED ON FILE AND BE 

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CONSIDERED PART OF THE PUBLIC 

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RECORD.

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DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: 9.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: 9, 

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OKAY.

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I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: YES.

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TWO MINUTES?

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: YES.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: JOE ROSE 

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FOLLOWED BY KATIE OHLONE, SAMIR.

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MR. ROSE?

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>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MEI, 

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DISTINGUISHED COUNCILMEMBERS.

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MY NAME IS JOE ROSE.

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I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR NAMI 

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ALAMEDA COUNTY SOUTH, THE 

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NATIONAL ALLIANCE ON MENTAL 

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ILLNESS.

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I WANT TO JUST INFORM YOU OF A 

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COUPLE OF THINGS.

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ONE IS I JUST MET WITH OHLONE 

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COLLEGE AND I AM WORKING WITH 

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THEM TO GET A NUMBER OF OUR NAMI 

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PROGRAMS IN TO THE COLLEGE TO 

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SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH FOR THE 

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STUDENTS AND THE COLLEGE, AND 

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WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT ROLLING 

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THIS OUT TO THE REST OF THE 

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COLLEGES IN ALAMEDA COUNTY.

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SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

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AND THEN SECONDLY, I DID EMAIL 

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YOU AND I HOPE YOU GOT IT COPY 

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OF IT, I WILL BE LEADING THE 

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FAMILY TO FAMILY CLASS STARTING 

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ON THE FIRST SATURDAY OF THE NEW 

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YEAR, AND FAMILY TO FAMILY IS 

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FOR CAREGIVERS OF SOMEONE WITH A 

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MENTAL ILLNESS AND IS AN 

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EIGHT-SESSION CLASS SO WE WILL 

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BE MEETING OVER EIGHT SATURDAYS 

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OF THE NEW YEAR.

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AND WHAT I FOUND WAS,

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 WHEN MY DAUGHTER HAD HER BREAK, 

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I WAS WORKING FULL TIME AND IT 

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WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO 

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MAINTAIN MY COMPOSURE AT WORK 

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AND BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HER, AND

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 SO CAN DISTRIBUTE THIS, I SENT 

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IT OUT TO EVERYBODY, TO YOUR 

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LINES OF COMMUNICATION AND 

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ENCOURAGE THEM IF THEY'RE 

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DEALING WITH A FAMILY MEMBER OR 

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SOME ACQUAINTANCE THAT HAS A 

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MENTAL ILLNESS TO ATTEND THE 

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CLASSES, NO COST, ALL OF OUR 

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CLASSES ARE AT NO COST, SO THANK 

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YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND FOR 

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ALL YOU DO FOR FREMONT.

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THANK YOU AGAIN.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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THE NEXT SPEAKER IS KATIE 

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FOLLOWED BY SAMIR.

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FOLLOWED BY LEE MASON.

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>> HI.

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CAN YOU HEAR?

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MY NAME IS KATIE PALONE.

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I HAVE A SON WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA 

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AND I WORK FOR IHOT,

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 FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

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MY JOB IS TO CONNECT PEOPLE WITH 

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SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS TO 

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SERVICES.

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MOST OF THE TIME THEY WANT 

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NOTHING TO DO WITH THOSE 

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SERVICES BECAUSE THEY DO NOT 

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ACKNOWLEDGE, THEY DO NOT BELIEVE 

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THAT THEY HAVE AN ILLNESS.

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THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED

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 ANASICNOSIA.

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I WORK WITH MANY FAMILIES IN 

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THIS POSITION AND WE'RE TRYING 

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TO CARE FOR THEM AT HOME, AND 

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OFTEN THEY REACH A POINT WHERE 

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THEY NEED HOSPITALIZATION 

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BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT ACCEPT 

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SERVICES VOLUNTARILY.

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IT'S AN ASPECT OF THE BRAIN 

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ILLNESS THAT THEY HAVE.

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IT HAS BECOME INCREASINGLY 

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DIFFICULT TO GET THEM 

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HOSPITALIZED THROUGHOUT THE 

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COUNTY, THROUGHOUT THE STATE, 

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PARTICULARLY IN FREMONT.

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IT HARD TO GET 5150s.

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WITHOUT THEM, FAMILIES ARE 

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FORCED TO WATCH THEIR CHILDREN

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 DETERIORATE, BECAUSE THAT'S 

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WHAT HAPPENS IF THESE ILLNESSES 

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ARE TREATED.

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OR WHEN THEY DO CALL 911 BECAUSE 

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THEY CANNOT CALL A CRISIS TEAM 

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IN FREMONT, WHEN THEY DO CALL 

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911, THE POLICE COME AND TELL 

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THEM THAT THERE'S NOTHING THEY 

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CAN DO, THEY WILL NOT -- OFTEN 

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WILL NOT EVEN GO INTO THE HOME, 

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WILL CERTAINLY NOT OPEN A DOOR, 

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BUT THE FAMILY NEEDS TO GET A 

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RESTRAINING ORDER.

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SO THESE FAMILIES, THIS INCLUDED 

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MYSELF, ARE FORCED TO STREET OUR 

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KIDS, TURN THEM INTO ONE MORE 

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HOMELESS PERSON ON THE STREETS 

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OR HEADED FOR JAIL AND PRISON.

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THIS HAS TO STOP, SO WE'RE 

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ASKING THE COUNCIL TO TAKE THIS 

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UP AS AN AGENDA ITEM.

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WE'LL WORK FOR YOU, WE'LL THINK 

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OUT OF THE BOX, WE'LL DO 

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WHATEVER IT TAKES TO FIGURE OUT 

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HOW TO GET THE HELP FOR OUR 

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CHILDREN THAT THEY NEED AND 

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DESERVE.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: NEXT SPEAKER IS 

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SAMIR FOLLOWED BY LEE MASON, AND 

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THEN ALISON MONROE.

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>> HELLO.

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MY NAME IS SAMIR.

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I HAVE A SON SUFFERING FROM 

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SCHIZOPHRENIA.

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THIS SUMMER, BECAUSE OF OUT OF 

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MEDICATION FOR LONG TIME, MY 

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SON'S CONDITION WAS WORSE.

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HIS BEHAVIOR WAS VERY ABUSIVE 

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AND AGGRESSIVE AT HOME, WAS 

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DEMANDING MONEY.

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HE PUNCHED ME IN MY FACE, LEFT 

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ME BLEEDING.

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WE ASKED HELP FROM COPS MULTIPLE 

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TIMES TO KEEP HIM ON 5150 HOLD, 

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PROVIDED THEM WITH ALL AB1424 

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WITH ALL THE DETAILS ABOUT HIS 

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CONDITIONS.

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COPS SUGGESTED WE ISSUE A 

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RESTRAINING ORDER AGAINST HIM.

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LEFT WITH NO CHOICE WE FINALLY 

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HAD TO ISSUE RESTRAINING ORDER.

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HE'S NOW LIVING ALONE AND THAT 

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HAS MADE THINGS WORSE FOR HIM.

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STAYING ALONE IS NOT GOOD FOR 

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THIS PARTICULAR CONDITION.

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HE HAS STARTED HEARING VOICES.

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HE SAYS THOSE VOICES ARE TELLING 

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THEM TO DO STUFF LIKE GO AND 

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STEAL, AND HE'S BEEN IN JAIL 

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MULTIPLE TIMES BECAUSE OF THAT, 

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LIKE HE SAYS OH, THOSE VOICES 

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ARE TELLING ME GO AND STEAL.

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IF HE HAD BEEN ON 5150, THINGS 

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WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT.

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WE WANT HIM TO BE SAFE.

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WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT HIM.

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WE ARE SEEING OUR SON'S LIFE 

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SPIRALING DOWN AND WE ARE 

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HELPLESS.

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WE WANT HIM BACK HOME SO THAT HE 

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CAN BE TREATED AND THAT IS ONLY 

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POSSIBLE WITH 5150 HOLD.

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WE PLEASE REQUEST COUNCILMEMBERS 

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TO CONSIDER 5150 AND HELP PEOPLE 

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LIKE US.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LEE MASON 

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FOLLOWED BY ALISON MONROE.

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AND PEGGY RAMAN.

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>> GOOD EVENING.

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MY NAME IS LEE MASON.

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I LIVE IN FREMONT.

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AND MY DAUGHTER IS SEVERELY 

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MENTALLY ILL.

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SHE DOES HEAR VOICES ALL THE 

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TIME.

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AND SHE REACTS.

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ON ONE OCCASION WHEN SHE WAS 

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STILL LIVING WITH ME, SHE WAS 

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ACTING RATHER ERRATICALLY.

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I WAS VERY CONCERNED FOR MY OWN 

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SAFETY AS WELL AS HERS.

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I CALLED THE FREMONT POLICE 

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DEPARTMENT AND REQUESTED A

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 5150 HOLD, AND A TEAM, I THINK 

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THEY CALL IT THE MET TEAM, TO 

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COME TO MY PLACE OF MY 

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RESIDENCE.

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THEY CAME AND

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 THEY JUST REFUSED MY REQUEST 

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FOR A 5150.

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AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, I GOT A 

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RESTRAINING ORDER, WHICH WAS ONE 

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OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO ME.

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NOW SHE LIVES IN HER CAR, SHE'S 

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ON THE STREET, AND IT'S NOT 

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GOING WELL FOR HER.

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I LIVE ALONE SO I HAD TO THINK 

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ABOUT MY SAFETY AND I WAS IN A 

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TERRIBLE POSITION, BUT I REALLY 

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BELIEVE THAT IF SHE HAD BEEN 

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5150, A DOOR COULD HAVE BEEN 

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OPENED FOR HER.

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AND SHE WOULD HAVE AT LEAST 

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BEGUN TO GET THE KIND OF

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 HELP THAT SHE SO DESPERATELY 

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NEEDS.

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I WOULD LIKE FOR 5150 AND THE 

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FPD TO BECOME AN AGENDA ITEM IN 

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THE FUTURE HERE AT THE COUNCIL.

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THANK YOU.

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YOU.

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>> HELLO.

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I'M ALISON MONROE WITH FAMILIES 

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ADVOCATING FOR THE SERIOUSLY 

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MENTALLY ILL.

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I'M HERE TO SUPPORT FREMONT 

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RESIDENTS WITH FAMILY MEMBERS 

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WHO HAVE SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS 

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LIKE SCHIZOPHRENIA, SERIOUS 

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BIPOLAR.

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OUR FAMILY MEMBERS, MOST OF THE 

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TIME DO NOT REALIZE THEY HAVE AN 

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ILLNESS.

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THE ILLNESS CAN BE TREATED, 

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RECOVERY IS POSSIBLE.

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LONGER LIFE AND HEALTH ARE 

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POSSIBLE.

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 FOR THESE PEOPLE.

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IF THEY ARE TREATED AND TAKEN 

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CARE.

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BUT THERE IS NO WAY TO GET 

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TREATMENT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER 

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UNLESS SOMEONE, POLICE OR A 

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CRISIS WORKER, IS ABLE

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 TO 5150 THEM TO SAY THEY ARE A 

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DANGER TO OTHERS OR GRAVELY 

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DISABLED.

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SO MANY FAMILY MEMBERS I KNOW 

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ARE HOPING AS THEIR CHILDREN 

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CYCLE THROUGH THIS MERRY GO 

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ROUND OF ARREST, OF 

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HOMELESSNESS, OF JAIL, BEING 

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HERE, BEING THERE, THAT THEY CAN 

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HAVE A CHANCE TO GRAB THAT BRASS 

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RING AND FINALLY BE TREATED.

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TREATMENT WORKS FOR AS LONG AS 

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PERIOD OF TIME, SOMETIMES IT 

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TAKES TIME TO FIND THE RIGHT 

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MED.

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EARLY TREATMENT ESPECIALLY 

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HELPS.

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BUT A LOT OF MISERY IS BEING

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 CAUSED BY THESE DEPARTMENTS' 

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RELUCTANCE TO ACTUALLY 5150 

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PEOPLE, TO GO INTO A HOUSE TO 

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SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, TO RECEIVE 

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THE FAMILY MEMBERS' INFORMATION, 

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THE HISTORY OF THE ILLNESS, AND 

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TAKE THEM TO A HOSPITAL WHERE 

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THEY CAN STAY FOR 72 HOURS AND 

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GOD WILLING BE SEEN BY SOMEBODY 

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THAT UNDERSTANDS MENTAL ILLNESS 

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AND CAN HELP DECIDE WHAT TO DO.

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MY OWN DAUGHTER DIED OF THIS 

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ILLNESS A YEAR AGO.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THE NEXT 

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SPEAKER IS PEGGY RAMAN.

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>> HELLO, COUNCILMEMBERS AND 

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MAYOR.

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THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US 

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AND FOR LETTING US PRESENT TO 

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YOUR FORUM.

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MY NAME IS PEGGY RAMAN.

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I HAVE LIVED IN FREMONT FOR 35 

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YEARS.

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I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF 

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NAMI ALAMEDA COUNTY.

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WE HAVE HAD SUPPORT GROUPS THERE 

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FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS, AND OUR 

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OFFICE IS IN THE BUILDING NEXT 

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DOOR.

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OUR OWN FAMILY'S EXPERIENCE WITH 

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THE FREMONT POLICE IS THAT THEY 

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ARE CARING PEOPLE WHO WANT TO 

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KEEP OUR CITIZENS SAFE, 

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INCLUDING PEOPLE THAT ARE ILL.

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IN THE 30 OR SO YEARS OF THE 

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SUPPORT GROUPS THAT WE HAVE HAD, 

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A COMMON THEME IS PEOPLE THAT 

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HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE SO 

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PSYCHOTIC OR SO GONE THAT THEY 

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ARE A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR 

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OTHERS, AND FREQUENTLY NOWADAYS, 

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THEY DON'T GET CARE, AND THAT IS 

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-- THAT'S A DISASTER.

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WE KNOW THAT MENTAL ILLNESSES 

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ARE PHYSICAL ILLNESS THAT ARE NO 

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FAULT OF THE PERSON WITH A 

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MENTAL HEALTH CONDITION OR FOR 

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THEIR FAMILIES.

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WE ALSO KNOW THAT EACH TIME 

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SOMEONE HAS A PSYCHOTIC BREAK, 

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BRAIN DAMAGE OCCURS.

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AND RECOVERY BECOMES LESS 

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POSSIBLE.

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AND WE KNOW THAT FAMILY GIVERS 

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LIVE IN CONSTANT GRIEF, WATCHING 

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THEIR LOVED ONES DETERIORATE.

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WE KNOW THAT THE STORIES THAT 

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WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT ARE

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 NOT -- SO I WANT TO ALSO 

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ANNOUNCE THAT OUR AFFILIATE, YOU 

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CAN CHECK US OUT ON OUR WEBSITE, 

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WE ALSO WILL BE OFFERING FAMILY 

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TO FAMILY CLASSES IN THE SPRING 

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AS WELL AS SUPPORT GROUPS THAT 

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YOU CAN CHECK OUT, AND WE 

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WELCOME PEOPLE TO ATTEND OUR 

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SUPPORT GROUPS.

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I HOPE, MY HOPE, IS THAT OUR

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 PRECIOUS DAUGHTER LOST HER LIFE 

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TO HER ILLNESS, AND WE DON'T 

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WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO ANYBODY 

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ELSE.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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JOANNA LYE.

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>> MY NAME IS JOANNA

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 LYE, RESIDENT OF FREMONT.

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THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I COME 

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 REGARDING THE

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 URGENCY FOR 5150 FOR

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 OUR CHILDREN.

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TWO YEARS AGO, I HAD TRIED AND 

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TRIED MANY TIMES TO CALL THE 911 

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EMERGENCY WHEN MY SON WAS IN

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 SERIOUS MENTAL ILL AND I DO NOT 

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REMEMBER HOW MANY TIMES I HAD CALLED.

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THERE ARE MANY, MANY TIMES I 

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HAVE CALLED.

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FINALLY, THE POLICE CAME TO MY 

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HOUSE TO GET MY ADULT CHILD OUT 

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TO THE HOSPITAL.

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HE IS DOING WELL NOW.

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HE'S WORKING, HE HAS A PART-TIME 

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JOB, AND I WOULD SAY 5150 IS THE

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 ONLY SAFER FOR MY CHILD AND IT 

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IS ALSO A LOT SAFER FOR THE 

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WHOLE FAMILY.

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I THANK THE POLICE FOR WHAT THEY 

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DID TWO YEARS AGO, AND THEN I 

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ASK THE POLICE TO ISSUE MORE 

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5150.

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PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO SAVE 

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MORE PEOPLE AND FAMILIES LIKE 

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ME.

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THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: SUZANNE CAMERON 

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FOLLOWED BY KELLY ABREU.

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>> HELLO.

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I'M SUZANNE CAMERON.

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I'VE LIVED IN FREMONT FOR OVER 

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60 YEARS AND HAVE RAISED MY 

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FAMILY HERE.

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MY 30-YEAR-OLD SON WHO SUFFERS 

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FROM PSYCHOSIS HAS BEEN ARRESTED 

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BY THE FREMONT POLICE AND 

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RELEASED TWICE THIS YEAR, 

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WITHOUT ACQUIRING ANY INSIGHT TO 

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HIS MENTAL ILLNESS AND HOW IT'S 

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SLOWLY DESTROYING HIM.

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WHEN MY DAUGHTER AND YOU ARRIVED 

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AT THE STATION AFTER 5:00 P.M., 

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THE LOBBY WAS CLOSED BUT WE 

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COULD CALL AND SPEAK WITH A VERY 

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POLITE OFFICER WHO CONFIRMED HE 

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WAS IN CUSTODY.

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WE EXPLAINED THAT HE WILL 

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PROBABLY NEVER ADMIT TO AND WILL 

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TRY TO MASK THAT HE SUFFERS

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 FROM PSYCHOSIS MUCH LIKE PEOPLE 

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WITH DEMENTIA DO, SO WE ASKED IF 

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WE COULD LEAVE FORM AB1424 WHICH 

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WE BROUGHT WITH US AND WHILE WE 

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WERE THERE FOR THEM TO REVIEW 

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WHEN THEY WERE ASSESSING HIM IN 

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FREMONT AND SANTA RITA.

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THE OFFICER PLACED US ON HOLD 

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AND THEN VERY CHEERFULLY SAID 

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THIS SHE JUST SAW HIM AND A HE'S 

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DOING FINE BUT THAT THEY 

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WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE THE 

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AB1424 DOCUMENT WE BROUGHT.

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OUR HEARTS SANK AND WE FELT 

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HELPLESS FOR HIM.

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24 HOURS LATER, HE WAS RELEASED 

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FROM SANTA RITA AND THE 

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FOLLOWING DAY, WE TOOK HIM TO 

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THE DUBLIN COURTHOUSE, WHERE HE 

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WAS SUPPOSED TO APPEAR BUT THE 

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CHARGES HAD ALREADY BEEN 

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DROPPED.

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I FEAR HE IS NOW PART OF A 

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SYSTEM THAT ONLY SEEKS TO HOLD 

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HIM INVOLUNTARILY, FOR 

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RELATIVELY LOW-LEVEL CRIMES HE 

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WOULD NOT OTHERWISE COMMIT.

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RATHER THAN BEING HELD 

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INVOLUNTARILY ON THE 5150 SO HE 

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CAN GET THE TREATMENT HE IS TOO 

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SICK TO RECOGNIZE HE NEEDS.

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I HAVE HUGE RESPECT FOR LAW 

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ENFORCEMENT AND BELIEVE THAT 

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BEING A POLICE OFFICER IS ONE OF 

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THE MOST DIFFICULT AND DANGEROUS 

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JOBS THERE IS.

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IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT OR ANYONE 

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ELSE'S THAT MY SON HAS A SERIOUS 

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MENTAL ILLNESS, BUT THE SYSTEM 

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FROM WHICH LAW ENFORCEMENT 

[Captioner] 19:25:06
OPERATES IS FLAWED WHEN IT 

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CHOOSES OR IS REQUIRED TO 

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DISMISS READILY PROVIDED TRUE 

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AND DOCUMENTED INFORMATION FROM 

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FAMILY MEMBERS ABOUT AN INMATE'S 

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MENTAL STATE.

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PLEASE, WE MUST FIND A WAY FOR 

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LAW ENFORCEMENT TO PARTNER WITH 

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FAMILIES OF MENTALLY ILL LOVED 

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ONES.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THE NEXT 

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SPEAKER IS KELLY ABREU, FOLLOWED 

[Captioner] 19:25:33
BY SALIM

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MASTON.

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>> THE REGIONAL PARKS THAT YOUR

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 STAFF HAS FORGOTTEN ABOUT, THE 

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LIAISON COMMITTEE HASN'T MET IN 

[Captioner] 19:25:49
ABOUT A YEAR OR EIGHT MONTHS, 

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ARE OFFERING GREAT BENEFITS TO 

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THE CITY OF FREMONT.

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FOR EXAMPLE, MISSION PEAK HAS 

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SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE 

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HOUSING, LINING THE BORDERS OF 

[Captioner] 19:26:02
MISSION PEAK AND COYOTE HILL 

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REGIONAL PARK IS THE SITE OF A 

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LARGE PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL 

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COMPLEX WITH 500,000 SQUARE FEET 

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OF OFFICE SPACE.

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NOW THE CITY IS MISZONING,

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 MISLABELING THIS OFFICE SPACE 

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AS IF IT WERE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

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LIGHT INDUSTRIAL HAS SINGLE 

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STORY, IT HAS MASSIVE ELEVATORS, 

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IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF 

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WINDOWS, IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT 

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OF PARKING SPACES BECAUSE IT 

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DOESN'T USE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES 

[Captioner] 19:26:27
IN THERE.

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IT DOESN'T HAVE THREE STORIES.

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THIS PLACE HAS MORE PARKING, 

[Captioner] 19:26:36
1400 SPACES AS OPPOSED TO 1,000 

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ALLOWED.

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IT HAS MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE 

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BECAUSE IT'S THREE STORIES, AND 

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IT IS IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD 

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AN OFFICE COMPLEX.

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NOW WHY WOULD THE CITY DO THAT?

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BECAUSE IF YOU'RE CHARGING 

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HIGHER DEVELOPMENT FEES FOR 

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OFFICE SPACE, YOU CAN GIVE AWAY 

[Captioner] 19:26:54
A $1 MILLION DISCOUNT TO THE 

[Captioner] 19:26:56
DEVELOPER IF YOU JUST CALL IT A 

[Captioner] 19:26:57
LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

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YOU'LL ALSO BYPASS THE PLANNING 

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COMMISSION.

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THEY DIDN'T HOLD A HEARING, YOU 

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JUST HAVE YOUR STAFF HOLD A 

[Captioner] 19:27:07
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR HEARING AND 

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HAVE THEM RUBBER STAMP THIS 

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PROJECT AND YOU IGNORE ALL THE 

[Captioner] 19:27:11
OBJECTIVE STANDARDS FOR WHAT IS 

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AN OFFICE BUILDING AND YOU 

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PRETEND IT'S A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, 

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YOU KNOW, THIS THING DOES NOT 

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HAVE -- IT DOES NOT EVEN HAVE 

[Captioner] 19:27:21
BIG DOORS AND LOADING DOCKS AND 

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THINGS.

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IT A JOKE.

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THIS CITY NEEDS TO LABEL IT 

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CORRECTLY, TAKE THE EXTRA $1 

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MILLION, AND HELP DEVELOP BETTER 

[Captioner] 19:27:32
PARKS.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

[Captioner] 19:27:42
YOU.

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>> GOOD EVENING,

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 COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY 

[Captioner] 19:27:49
MUCH.

[Captioner] 19:27:51
APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS THE 

[Captioner] 19:27:53
PEOPLE HAVE WITH THE MENTAL 

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ILLNESS.

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IT IS REALLY SERIOUS.

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WE NEED TO REALLY VERY SERIOUSLY 

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CONSIDER THE FACT THAT OUR 

[Captioner] 19:28:04
CITIZENS ARE GOING THROUGH THESE 

[Captioner] 19:28:05
PROBLEMS.

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A SPECIAL COMMITTEE SHOULD BE 

[Captioner] 19:28:08
MADE SO THAT THEIR ISSUES ARE 

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ADDRESSED AND ADDRESSED PROPERLY 

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IN A HUMANE MANNER.

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I SUPPORT ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

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THANK YOU.

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SECOND IS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY 

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IN FREMONT TO MAKE IT ONE OF THE 

[Captioner] 19:28:26
MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES ON EARTH.

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IT IS THE HAPPIEST PLACE ON 

[Captioner] 19:28:30
EARTH AND LET US MAKE IT A 

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BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

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THERE ARE VARIOUS JUNK 

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BUILDINGS, PLACES WHICH NEED TO 

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BE DEVELOPED LIKE SANTANA ROW.

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THE BOWLING ALLEY SHOPPING 

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CENTER, STEVENSON, RIGHT ON THE 

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CORNER, THE MONUMENT PLAZA, ON

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 FREMONT BOULEVARD WHERE THE 

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CHINESE MARKET IS.

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ALL OF THESE OLD, DEAD SHOPPING

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 MALLS SHOULD COME IN 

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REDEVELOPMENT.

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THEY SHOULD BE DEVELOPERS WHO 

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WILL FUND THE CITY FOR THE MONEY 

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TO DO THE REDEVELOPMENT, MAKE 

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FREMONT BEAUTIFUL.

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THE HOUSING PRICES ARE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF.

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YOU CAN BUILD LOW COST HOUSING 

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HERE ON THESE PLAZAS, AND IT 

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CANNOT ONLY GIVE THE LOWER AND 

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MIDDLE CLASS INCOME OWNERS A 

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PLACE TO STAY IN FREMONT, IT 

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WILL GET RID OF THE HOMELESS 

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PEOPLE ALSO WHO BY CIRCUMSTANCES 

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ARE LIVING IN CARS OR RVs AND 

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ALL OF THAT, WHICH IS AN AGENDA 

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ITEM RIGHT NOW.

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I WOULD LIKE THE ECONOMIC

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 DEVELOPMENT MANAGER --

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THANK YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THAT'S THE LAST 

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SPEAKER UNDER ORAL 

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COMMUNICATIONS.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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WE WILL NOW CONSIDER ITEMS THAT 

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WERE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT 

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CAL TAR.

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STARTING WITH ITEM 2D, WHICH IS 

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THE SECOND READING OF AN 

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ORDINANCE REGARDING STREET 

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PARKING.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: LISA

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 DANS TURNED IN A SPEAKER CARD.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU.

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HI, I'M LISA DANS, A MEMBER OF 

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FREMONT FOR EVERYONE.

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I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS 

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ORDINANCE.

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I KNOW THAT IT'S ON THE CONSENT 

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CALENDAR SO I'M NOT GOING TO 

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SPEND TOO MUCH OF MY 2 MINUTES 

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CONVINCING YOU NOT TO PASS IT, 

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BUT I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT WE 

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ARE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE 

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ROAD WHEN WE'RE JUST TELLING 

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SOMEBODY TO MOVE ALONG WITHOUT 

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GIVING THEM SOMEWHERE TO GO.

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EXCEPT I CAN AS A HUMAN BEING 

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AND KICKING THEM LEAVES THEM 

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BRUISED.

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SO I'M HERE TO SAY IF WE'RE 

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GOING TO TELL PEOPLE THEY CAN'T 

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PARK WHERE THEY ARE PARKING WE 

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NEED TO GIVE A GOOD 

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ALTERNATIVE.

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AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR A 

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LONG TIME ABOUT EXPANDING THE 

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SAFE PARKING PROGRAM.

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AND I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD 

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TIME TO DO THAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE 

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TELLING PEOPLE RIGHT NOW THAT 

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THEY CAN'T PARK WHERE THEY'RE 

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PARKING, SO WHERE CAN THEY 

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PARK?

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AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HAVING 

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TWO MORE PRONGS, PRONG TWO BEING 

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THE MEET THEM WHERE THEY PRONG, 

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ADDING DUMPSTERS AND PORTABLE 

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RESTROOMS WHERE PEOPLE ARE 

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ALREADY PARKING TO IMPROVE 

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SANITATION, WHICH HAS THE 

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BENEFIT OF BEING FAST AND 

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RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE TO 

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IMPLEMENT, AND OF COURSE PRONG 

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THREE, A CITY-OWNED LOT THAT 

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WOULD PROVIDE MUCH MORE 

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STABILITY.

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I'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE 

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CURRENT PARTICIPANTS OF THE 

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PROGRAM THAT THEY MIGHT PREFER 

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TO MOVE IT A CITY OWNED LOT IF 

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ONE WAS AVAILABLE BECAUSE THEN 

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THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO LEAVE AT 

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AN UNGODLY HOUR OF THE MORNING.

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I VOLUNTEERED THE OTHER DAY AS A 

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CHECKOUT PARTICIPANT, AND 

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PARTICIPANTS HAD TO LEAVE BY 

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ABOUT 7:00 A.M.

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IT WAS RAINING AND COAL, I HEARD 

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FROM ONE PARTICIPANT SHE PLANNED 

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TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO PARK 

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AND KEEP SLEEPING BECAUSE IT WAS 

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BASICALLY STILL NIGHTTIME.

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IN RESPECT OF YOUR TIME WE'RE 

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NOT ALL GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS 

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BUT I DO WANT TO SHARE I HAVE 

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SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE HERE WITH 

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ME WHO SUPPORT A SAFE PARKING 

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PROGRAM, AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL 

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REALLY BRING THIS BACK TO THE 

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AGENDA AND IMPLEMENT IT AS SOON 

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AS POSSIBLE.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS?

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OKAY.

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THEN I'LL BRING THIS BACK TO THE 

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COUNCIL TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY 

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COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

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SEEING NONE, MAYOR MEI OR IS 

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THERE ANY HANDS RAISED FROM THE 

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MAYOR OR -- OKAY.

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I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

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 PLEASE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN?

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>> Councilmember Salwan: YES, 

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I'LL MAKE A COMMENT AND THEN 

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MAKE A MOTION.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: YES, 

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PLEASE.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: SO 

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APPRECIATE ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM 

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THE COMMUNITY.

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DEFINITELY THIS IS IN RESPONSE 

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TO THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, 

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ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO 

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RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

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PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 

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RVs IN RESIDENTIAL 

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NEIGHBORHOODS.

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AND SO THIS IS A COMPROMISE TO 

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TRY TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.

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AND SO ONE, WE HAVE TO ENFORCE 

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THIS, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME 

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TIME TO SCALE UP, SO WE DO WANT 

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TO HAVE RESOURCES FOR THESE 

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INDIVIDUALS, WHETHER THAT'S 

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THROUGH NON-PROFITS, PERMANENT 

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AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SHELTERS, 

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ALL OF THE ABOVE.

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AND SO I'M READY TO MOVE THIS 

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FORWARD BECAUSE I THINK THIS 

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ADDRESSES A LOT OF THE ISSUES 

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THAT PEOPLE ARE FACING.

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>> Councilmember Cox: SECOND.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: OKAY.

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ON THE MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER 

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SALWAN AND SECONDED BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER COX, I JUST WANT 

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TO MAKE A COMMENT AS WELL.

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I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS 

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OF OUR UNSHELTERED COMMUNITY.

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I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROBLEM 

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IS A LOT DEEPER THAN IT MAY 

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APPEAR ON THE SURFACE BECAUSE OF 

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SOME OF THE COMPLICATIONS THAT 

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ARISE FROM BEING UNSHELTERED.

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I DO THINK THE CITY IS DOING THE 

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VERY BEST THAT THEY CAN.

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I UNDERSTAND THE THREE PRONG 

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APPROACH AND THE SECOND PRONG 

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AND THE THIRD PRONG, AND THAT 

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WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE 

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LOOKING AT, AND I THINK THAT WE 

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MAY BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE 

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CONVERSATION AROUND THOSE PRONGS 

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AT SOME POINT.

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BUT JUST NOT RIGHT NOW.

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SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A 

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SECOND.

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PLEASE VOTE.

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ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: COUNCILMEMBER 

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COX, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG, AYE.

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VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL, AYE.

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MAYOR MEI, AYE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: CITY 

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ATTORNEY, DID YOU WANT TO READ 

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THE ORDINANCE, PLEASE?

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>> Cty. Attny. Alvarado: YES, 

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THANK YOU, VICE MAYOR.

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THE ORDINANCE IS TITLED AN 

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ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF FREMONT 

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AMENDING FREMONT MUNICIPAL CODE 

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SECTION 10.05.550, RESTRICTING 

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ON-STREET PARKING TO 72 HOURS, 

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AND ADDING SECTION 10.05.555, 

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RESTRICTING OVERSIZED PARKING IN 

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RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ITEM 

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THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE 

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CONSENT CALENDAR, ITEM 2D

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 -- 2E, THANK YOU,

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 ONGOING TRAFFIC COUNTING 

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SERVICES.

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DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON 

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THAT?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: YES, KELLY 

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ABREU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT 

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-- THIS ITEM, THEY'RE ASKING TO 

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SPEND $50,000 A YEAR ON ALA 

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CARTE CONCIERGE TRAFFIC COUNTS.

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SOMEBODY COMPLAINS TOO MUCH 

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TRAFFIC ON MY STREET, THEY'LL 

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PUT OUT THESE RUBBER HOSES AND 

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THEY'LL GET THE COUNTS.

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IT'S A WONDERFUL SERVICE, BUT 

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THE TRAFFIC COUNTS, REG ALREADY 

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TRAFFIC COUNTS, THE 

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NON-CONCIERGE, THE ROUTINE ONES 

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THAT ARE SCHEDULED ARE SUPPOSED 

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TO BE DONE ALL ACROSS THE CITY 

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AT 100 LOCATIONS, EVERY -- I'M 

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QUOTING FROM YOUR OWN WEBSITE, 

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TRAFFIC COUNTS ARE COLLECTED ON 

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MAJOR CITY STREETS EVERY TWO TO 

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THREE YEARS.

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THIS INFORMATION IS CURRENTLY 

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AVAILABLE FOR YEARS 2019 AND 

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2021.

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CAN YOU SUBTRACT?

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WE'RE IN 2024 NOW,

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 JUST FINISHING, IT'S BEEN THREE 

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YEARS, 3 1/2 YEARS PROBABLY, AND 

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IT'S TIME TO PUBLISH THE RESULTS 

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OF THE TRAFFIC COUNTS THAT WERE 

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JUST COLLECTED.

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AND WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?

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WELL, THE OTHER DAY I WAS -- OR 

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A FEW MONTHS AGO, I WAS AT 

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OHLONE COLLEGE ON THE VERY FIRST 

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DAY OF THE NEW YEAR, THE SCHOOL 

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YEAR, AND HOW DID I KNOW THAT?

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I SAW CARS LINED UP ON MISSION 

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BOULEVARD FOR BLOCK AFTER BLOCK, 

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JAMMED TRAFFIC.

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AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD A 

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TRAFFIC COUNT, I COULD PROVE HOW 

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LOW THE TRAFFIC VOLUME IS ON 

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MISSION BOULEVARD, AND IT'S ALL 

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BECAUSE OF THOSE RED LIGHT 

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TIMINGS.

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THEY HAVE DELIBERATELY SET UP A 

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SYSTEM OF ROAD BLOCKS IN THE 

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FORM OF RED LIGHTS AT SIX 

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INTERSECTIONS UP AND DOWN 

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MISSION BOULEVARD TO DESTROY 

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TRAFFIC GOING TO OHLONE COLLEGE.

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THAT'S WHY THESE STUDENTS HAVE 

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SUCH A HARD TIME GETTING THERE.

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AND ALSO THAT'S WHY ALL THE 

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BUSINESSES HAVE COLLAPSED.

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HAVE YOU NOTICED THE BUSINESS 

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COMMUNITY THERE, BECAUSE YOU 

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CAN'T DRIVE DOWN THE STREET 

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DURING COMMUTE HOURS.

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THANKS.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL 

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SPEAKERS?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: NO, MA'AM.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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I'LL BRING THIS BACK TO THE 

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COUNCIL.

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COULD YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR 

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QUESTIONS?

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, ARE YOU IN 

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THE CUE OR DID I --

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>> Councilmember Salwan: I DON'T 

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HAVE A QUESTION.

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I'D LIKE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD IF 

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THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: 

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COUNCILMEMBER COX?

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>> Councilmember Cox: I THINK 

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THAT OUR COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN 

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WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, AND 

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I JUST SECONDED.

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BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: OKAY.

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I DO HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT IN THE 

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CUE.

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I'M READY TO ENTERTAIN THE 

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MOTION AND WE CAN HAVE A 

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DISCUSSION, AND THEN AFTER THE 

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DISCUSSION, WE CAN GO FOR THE 

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VOTE.

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SO IT WAS MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER 

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SALWAN, SECONDED BY 

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COUNCILMEMBER COX.

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AND I HAVE A COMMENT FROM 

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COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: SO I 

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WAS GOING TO ASK IF WE CAN GET 

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AN UPDATE ON IT BEING PUBLISHED, 

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WHAT RESULTS WE HAVE, BECAUSE IT 

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KIND OF DOES HELP US BUILD OUR 

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PLAN, OUR TRAFFIC PLAN AND 

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FOLLOW WHAT WE'VE GOT IN PLACE 

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TO BE SURE THAT OUR MOBILITY 

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ACTION PLANS ARE MET.

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SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE -- WE 

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CAN'T --

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: WE CAN 

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HAVE MR. LARSEN.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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OKAY.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: I DID 

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SAY HIS NAME -- HANS, OKAY, 

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THANK YOU.

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>> Mr. Larsen: GOOD EVENING, 

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MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

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HANS LARSEN, PUBLIC WORKS 

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DIRECTOR.

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SO THE QUESTION IS ABOUT THE 

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STATUS OF THE COUNTS FOR YEAR 

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2023.

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ACKNOWLEDGE WE'RE KIND OF 

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OVERDUE IN COMPLETING THAT.

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I THINK IT'S A FUNCTION OF STAFF 

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RESOURCES, VACANCIES, OTHER 

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OPPORTUNITIES.

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IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE 

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BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETE YET.

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I KNOW IT IS BEING WORKED ON, 

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AND I HAVE TO CHECK WITH MY 

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STAFF TO SEE WHERE THAT'S AT.

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BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE 

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DONE GENERALLY ON EVERY TWO-YEAR 

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CYCLE SO THAT WE CAN MONITOR AND 

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TRACK SORT OF TRAFFIC TRENDS 

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THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

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SO IT'S VALUABLE WORK.

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WE'VE DONE THE COUNTS.

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I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF JUST 

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BEING ABLE TO PACKAGE IT UP AND 

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PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN?

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>> Councilmember Salwan: MR. 

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LARSEN, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS 

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SOME OF THE FEEDBACK ABOUT WHEN 

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WE USE THIS SERVICE?

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THIS TRAFFIC COUNT --

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>> Mr. Larsen: SO QUESTION ABOUT 

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WHEN WE USE THE TRAFFIC COUNT 

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SERVICES.

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SO THESE ARE ON-CALL SERVICES.

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WE USE IT WHEN WE NEED IT.

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KIND OF TYPICAL THINGS AS WAS 

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MENTIONED, WE GET CALLS FROM THE 

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COMMUNITY, CONCERNS ABOUT 

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CUTTHROUGH TRAFFIC OR SPEEDING, 

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AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO BE 

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RESPONSIVE TO ASSESS THE 

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SIGNIFICANCE OF THE ISSUE AND 

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HELP GUIDE OUR RESPONSE.

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WE DO OFTENTIMES APPLY FOR 

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GRANTS AND WE NEED INFORMATION 

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TO DO THAT, AS WE DESIGN 

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PROJECTS, WE ORDER COUNTS SO 

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THAT WE UNDERSTAND TURNING 

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MOVEMENTS AND PEDESTRIAN AND 

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BIKE VOLUMES IN ORDER TO GUIDE 

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THE DESIGN OF OUR WORK.

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SO THESE ARE FIVE-YEAR CONTRACTS 

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ON CALL, WE HAVE MULTIPLE FIRMS, 

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JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE 

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SOMEBODY AVAILABLE WHO CAN DO 

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THE WORK WE NEEDED AT THE TIME 

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WE HAVE.

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SO THAT'S A VARIETY OF THE 

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DIFFERENT THINGS WE USE THIS 

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FOR.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: DO WE 

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HAVE ANY COMMENTS ONLINE FROM 

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MAYOR MEI OR COUNCILMEMBER 

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SHAO?

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SEEING NONE, THERE ARE NO 

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ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS, THERE WAS A 

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MOTION AND A SECOND.

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PLEASE VOTE.

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ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: COUNCILMEMBER 

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COX, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG, AYE.

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VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL, AYE.

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MAYOR MEI, AYE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR 

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SCHEDULED ITEMS, WHICH IS 5A, 

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WHICH IS THE UPDATE ON THE 

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MASTER FEE SCHEDULE.

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THANK YOU, MR. LARSEN, FOR 

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HELPING US OUT HERE.

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DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS 

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ITEM?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: KELLY ABREU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> THERE'S A VERY -- A LOT OF 

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WORDS IN THIS STAFF REPORT, AND 

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IT'S VERY EMPTY OF REAL FACTS 

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OF, YOU KNOW, WHY DO YOU NEED 

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MONTHLY PARKING PASSES?

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WHY SAY IT'S EMPTY?

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WELL, WHAT IS THE CURRENT 

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PARKING CAPACITY IN THAT PARKING 

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LOT?

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WHAT IS THE AVERAGE DWELL TIME?

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HOW MANY -- A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

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HOW MANY PARKING HOURS ON

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 AVERAGE IS A CAR PARKED FOR A 

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DAY.

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WHAT IS THE CURRENT ACTUAL AND 

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ANTICIPATED PARKING UTILIZATION 

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--

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 CARS PER DAY MINUS AVAILABLE 

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PARKING SPACES.

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EVERY DAY DURING PEAK WORK HOURS 

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THAT LOT IS FULL AND I BET YOU 

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THIS CENTERVILLE STATION WHERE 

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IT USED TO HAVE OVERFLOW 

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PARKING, THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

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THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 

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LESS COMMUTERS.

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THEY DON'T NEED PARKING.

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AND THEN HOW MUCH REVENUE DO YOU 

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CURRENTLY GENERATE FROM $3 DAILY 

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PARKING SPACES, HOW MUCH REVENUE 

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DO YOU ANTICIPATE FROM THE $50 

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PASSES.

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CALTRAIN CHARGES FOR MONTHLY 

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PARKING PERMITS AND THE PERMITS 

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ARE ONLY SOLD TO CUSTOMERS WHO 

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HAVE A CALTRAIN MONTHLY PASS OR 

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GO PASS PRODUCT.

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SO WHY DOESN'T FREMONT RESTRICT 

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MONTHLY PASSES TO COMMUTERS 

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ONLY?

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WHY ARE WE TALKING -- SO IF 

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YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF 

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DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO THE STATION,

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 THAT IS A NONSENSICAL 

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JUSTIFICATION FOR PARKING 

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PERMITS BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE 

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WILL WALK OUT OF THEIR HOUSES 

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AND WALK DOWN THE STREET AND GO 

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TO THE TRAIN STATION.

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THEY WON'T NEED THE

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 PARKING.

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SO THESE PARKING SPACES ARE 

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THERE FOR A REASON AND IT OUGHT 

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TO BE FOR COMMUTING.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: THAT WAS THE 

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LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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I'LL BRING THIS BACK TO THE 

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COUNCIL.

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COUNCILMEMBER COX.

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>> Councilmember Cox: ACTUALLY 

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THAT WAS FROM LAST TIME.

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BUT I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, 

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AS A CITY, THAT IF WE SEE A NEED 

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TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST OUR MASTER 

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FEE SCHEDULE, THAT WE SHOULD BE 

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ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR DIFFERENT 

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FEES THAT HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT 

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UNDER CONTRACTS, WITH THE 

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DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN 

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THE CITY, AND THAT KEEPS IT 

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DOCUMENTED, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE, 

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YOU CAN HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF 

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DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT WE NEED 

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TO PROVIDE AND ACCOUNT FOR THE 

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MONEYS THAT ARE BEING COLLECTED 

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FROM THE DRENTS, OR THOSE THAT 

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ARE THE USERS OF THE SERVICES, 

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SO IT MAKES SENSE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THIS WAS 

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IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO CITIZENS' 

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REQUEST, IS THAT CORRECT, MR. 

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LARSEN?

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>> Mr. Larsen: A COUPLE THINGS.

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WITH REGARDS TO THE MONTHLY 

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PARKING OPTION, SO THAT, WE'RE 

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BEING RESPONSIVE TO MEMBERS OF 

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THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE COMMUTERS 

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AT THE STATION ON A REGULAR 

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BASIS THAT HAVE TO THEN -- EACH 

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DAY HAVE TO GET A DAILY MARKING 

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PASS, SO FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF 

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THE COMMUTER, IT'S BEEN 

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REQUESTED IF WE COULD MAKE A 

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MONTHLY PARKING OPTION 

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AVAILABLE, SO WE'RE RESPONDING 

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TO THAT.

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>> Mr. Parungao: JUST OVERALL 

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THIS IS A RELATIVELY

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 ROUTINE UPDATE TO THE SERVICES 

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WE PROVIDE IN PUBLIC WORKS, SO 

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THE MONTHLY PARKING IS ONE, 

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THERE'S A FEW OTHER KIND OF 

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MINOR ROUTINE UPDATES THAT MEET 

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THE GOALS OF MAKING SURE THAT 

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WE'RE PROVIDING THE SERVICES 

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THAT ARE REQUESTED AND THAT ARE 

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MEETING OUR COST RECOVERY 

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GOALS.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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I SEE NO OTHERS IN THE CUE.

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I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: SO 

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MOVED.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> Councilmember Keng: 

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SECONDED.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, 

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SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KENG.

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PLEASE VOTE.

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ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

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UNLESS MAYOR MEI OR 

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO HAVE ANY 

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COMMENTS?

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THANK YOU.

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ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: COUNCILMEMBER

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 COX, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG, AYE.

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VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL, AYE.

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MAYOR MEI, AYE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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THANK YOU, MR. LARSEN.

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SO NOW WE'RE AT THE HIGHLIGHT OF 

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OUR MEETING THAT I WAS RUSHING 

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TO GET TO BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO BE 

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ABLE TO SPEND MORE TIME ON THIS 

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THAN ANYTHING ELSE, AND THAT'S 

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6A, WHICH IS AN UPDATE ON OUR

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 2023-2024 YEAR-END BUDGET 

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REPORT.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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>> Mr. Persselin: THANK YOU, 

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VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL.

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I'LL ASK THE CLERK TO PUT UP THE 

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SLIDES.

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>> Ms. Gauthier: IF THE 

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GENTLEMAN IN THE A.V. BOOTH CAN 

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PUT IT ON ALL OUR SCREENS, 

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PLEASE?

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WE'RE CURRENTLY SHARING IT ON 

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ZOOM.

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I JUST DON'T SEE IT INSIDE 

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CHAMBERS.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: ONE 

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MOMENT, PLEASE.

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WE'RE JUST HAVING SOME TECHNICAL 

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DIFFICULTIES.

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>> Mr. Persselin: ALL RIGHT, 

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NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE?

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TONIGHT I'LL BE REVIEWING OUR 

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GENERAL FUND OPERATING RESULTS 

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FOR LARS FISCAL YEAR AND 

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REPORTING ON BUDGET ACTIONS 

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TAKEN PURSUANT TO THE CITY 

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COUNCIL'S DELEGATION OF 

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AUTHORITY TO THE CITY MANAGER.

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THE AUDIT OF THE CITY'S FISCAL 

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YEAR 2023-24 FINANCIAL 

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STATEMENTS BY AN INDEPENDENT 

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CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTING FIRM 

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IS UNDERWAY.

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AND THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE 

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FINANCIAL REPORT, INCLUDING THE 

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AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, IS 

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EXPECTED TO BE AVAILABLE BY 

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DECEMBER 31ST.

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TO PROVIDE THE CITY COUNCIL WITH 

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MORE TIMELY INFORMATION ABOUT 

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THE YEAR JUST COMPLETED, WE'VE 

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PREPARED THE FOLLOWING 

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INFORMATION USING UNAUDITED 

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AMOUNTS.

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WE'LL REPORT ON ANY MATERIAL 

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AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS AT THE TIME 

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THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT IS 

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PROVIDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

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I'LL BEGIN BY REVIEWING SOME OF 

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THE KEY BUDGET ACTIONS TAKEN BY 

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THE CITY COUNCIL OVER THE LAST 

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YEAR.

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BECAUSE OUR BUDGET IS BASED ON 

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THE CORE PRINCIPLE OF FISCAL 

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SUSTAINABILITY, THE LEVEL OF 

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SERVICES WE CAN PROVIDE THE 

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COMMUNITY IS CONSTRAINED BY OUR 

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ONGOING RESOURCES.

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TO AVOID THE SERVICE DISRUPTIONS 

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THAT WOULD RESULT FROM TEMPORARY 

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REVENUE SHORT FALLS OR 

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EXPENDITURE SPIKES, THE CITY HAS 

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ESTABLISHED A GENERAL FUND 

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BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE, 

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WHICH ACTS AS A KIND OF FISCAL 

[Captioner] 19:50:56
SHOCK ABSORBER.

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RECOGNIZING THAT RAPID GROWTH IN 

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SALES TAX REVENUE WAS INCREASING 

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THE GENERAL FUND'S EXPOSURE TO 

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CHANGES IN THE ECONOMY, THE CITY 

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COUNCIL INCREASED THE BUDGET 

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UNCERTAINTY RESERVE TO $20 

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MILLION AS PART OF THE FISCAL 

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YEAR 23-24 ADOPTED OPERATING 

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BUDGET.

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SHORTLY AFTER, IN JULY, THE CITY 

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COUNCIL DEPLOYED $3.4 MILLION OF 

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THE $46.4 MILLION GENERAL FUND 

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CONTINGENCY RESERVE TO REPAIR 

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CITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS 

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DAMAGED BY STORMS IN EARLY 

[Captioner] 19:51:32
2023.

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IN AUGUST 2023, THE STATE 

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INFORMED US THAT IT HAD OVERPAID 

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US SALES TAX REVENUE DURING THE 

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PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR DUE TO 

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MISREPORTING BY LOCAL 

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BUSINESSES.

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AND WOULD BE RECOVERING THOSE 

[Captioner] 19:51:52
OVERPAYMENTS BY REDUCING ITS 

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REMITTANCES TO THE CITY IN THE 

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FUTURE.

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TO HELP OFFSET THAT RECOVERY, 

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THE CITY COUNCIL SET ASIDE THE 

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UNRESERVED GENERAL FUND ENDING 

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FUND BALANCE OF

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 $21.9 MILLION DURING THE FISCAL 

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YEAR 2022-23 YEAR-END BUDGET 

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REPORT LAST NOVEMBER.

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SINCE THE FISCAL YEAR

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 2023-24 ADOPTED REVENUE 

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PROJECTION WAS BASED IN PART ON 

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THE INFLATED PRIOR-YEAR LEVEL OF 

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SALES TAX REVENUE, THE CITY 

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COUNCIL USED THE MID-YEAR BUDGET 

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REPORT IN MARCH TO REBALANCE THE 

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BUDGET BY ADJUSTING REVENUE AND 

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EXPENDITURE ESTIMATES AND BY 

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AUTHORIZING A $10 MILLION 

[Captioner] 19:52:38
TRANSFER FROM THE NEWLY 

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ESTABLISHED ACCRUED LEAVE 

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LIABILITY RESERVE TO BOLSTER THE 

[Captioner] 19:52:42
BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE.

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COMBINED WITH OUR REDUCED 

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ONGOING SALES TAX REVENUE 

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ESTIMATES, THE STATE'S RECOVERY 

[Captioner] 19:52:52
OF OVERPAID SALES TAX REVENUE 

[Captioner] 19:52:54
REQUIRES THE USE OF ONE-TIME 

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FUNDS TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT 

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LEVEL OF SERVICES.

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ONCE THE STATE HAS COMPLETED 

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RECOVERING ITS OVERPAYMENT 

[Captioner] 19:53:05
DURING THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, 

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OUR SALES TAX REVENUE WILL 

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RETURN TO ITS NORMAL ONGOING 

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LEVEL IN FISCAL YEAR 2025-26.

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WE UPDATE OUR REVENUE 

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PROJECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR 

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AND WE RECEIVE NEW INFORMATION.

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AS I MENTIONED, WE USE THE 

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FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 MID-YEAR 

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REPORT IN MARCH TO AMEND OUR 

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BUDGETED ESTIMATES FOR PROPERTY 

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TAX, SALES TAX AND HOTEL TAX.

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AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR ACTUAL 

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COLLECTIONS OUTPERFORMED THE 

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BUDGET ESTIMATE BY $4.4 

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MILLION.

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THE FINAL INSTALLMENT OF 

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PROPERTY TAX PAYMENTS FROM THE 

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COUNTY IN AUGUST INCLUDED FOUR 

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MONTHS OF SUPPLEMENTARY PROPERTY 

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TAX, WHICH UNDERPERFORMED THE 

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BUDGET ESTIMATE BY ALMOST $1.1 

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MILLION.

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PARTIALLY OFFSET BY AN 

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ADDITIONAL $500,000 COMING 

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PRIMARILY FROM THE SECURED TAX 

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ROLL.

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SALES TAX REVENUE SLIGHTLY 

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EXCEEDED THE FINAL BUDGET 

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ESTIMATE.

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THE $50.9 MILLION RECEIVED 

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DURING THE YEAR INCLUDES THE 

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STATE'S RECOVERY OF HALF OF THE 

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PRIOR YEAR OVERPAYMENT.

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THE SECOND HALF OF THE 

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OVERPAYMENT WILL BE RECOVERED IN 

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THE FIRST QUARTER REMITTANCE FOR 

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THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

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BUSINESS TAX REVENUE FELL BELOW 

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OUR BUDGET ESTIMATE BY $600,000 

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WITH A SIGNIFICANT DROPOFF IN 

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THE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION 

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BUSINESS TAX CATEGORY.

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HIGHER ELECTRICITY AND GAS 

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PAYMENTS WERE THE PRIMARY 

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CONTRIBUTOR TO THE ADDITIONAL 

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REVENUE IN THE FRANCHISE FEES 

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CATEGORY.

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HOTEL TAX CONTINUES TO 

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UNDERPERFORM, WITH ROOM RATES 

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AND OCCUPANCY BOTH STILL

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 SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THEIR 

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PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS.

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THE MAJORITY OF THE 

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OVERPERFORMANCE YOU SEE IN THE 

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"OTHER" REVENUE CATEGORY, $2.8 

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MILLION, RESULTED FROM 

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ADDITIONAL EARNINGS IN THE 

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CITY'S INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO DUE 

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TO CONTINUED HIGH INTEREST 

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RATES.

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THIS CATEGORY ALSO INCLUDES

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 $1.3 MILLION OF REIMBURSEMENTS 

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FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR

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 EXPENDITURES RELATED TO THE 

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COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND THE 2023 

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WINTER STORM DAMAGE.

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THE $10 MILLION TRANSFER FROM 

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THE ACCRUED LEAVE LIABILITY 

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RESERVE TO THE BUDGET 

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UNCERTAINTY RESERVE I MENTIONED 

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EARLIER IS INCLUDED IN THE 

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FISCAL YEAR 2023-24 COLUMNS AS A 

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TRANSFER IN.

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WE HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT REVENUE 

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DATA YET FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL 

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YEAR.

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BUT EXPECT TO RECEIVE SOME OF 

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OUR FIRST PROPERTY TAX AND SALES 

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TAX REMITTANCES LATER THIS MONTH 

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AND IN DECEMBER.

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THE $268.3 MILLION OF ACTUAL 

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EXPENDITURES YOU SEE ON THIS 

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SLIDE FELL $5.5 MILLION BELOW 

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THE FINAL BUDGET AT $273.8 

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MILLION.

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AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE BUDGET 

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INCLUDES AN EXPENDITURE SAVINGS 

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ESTIMATE THAT ANTICIPATES 

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UNDERSPENDING DUE PRIMARILY TO 

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VACANT POSITIONS.

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ACCOUNTING FOR THESE SAVINGS 

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DURING BUDGET DEVELOPMENT, USE

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 OF RESOURCES THAT WOULD 

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OTHERWISE NOT BE ABLE TO THE 

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COMMUNITY.

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THE BUDGETED SAVINGS ESTIMATE 

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WAS $22.1 MILLION.

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THE ADDITIONAL $5.5 MILLION OF

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 SAVINGS RESULTED PRIMARILY FROM 

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A TRUE-UP IN DEPARTMENTAL 

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ALLOCATIONS TO THE INFORMATION 

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TECHNOLOGY OPERATIONS INTERNAL 

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SERVICE FUND.

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AND FROM A DELAY IN 

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IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW 

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SUBSCRIPTION BASED TECHNOLOGY 

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AGREEMENT FOR THE POLICE 

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DEPARTMENT.

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WE FINISHED 2022-23 WITH $21.9 

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MILLION OF UNRESERVED FUND 

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BALANCE, WHICH AS I MENTIONED 

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EARLIER, THE CITY COUNCIL LEFT 

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UNALLOCATED TO HELP OFFSET THE 

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ANTICIPATED SALES TAX REVENUE 

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REDUCTIONS.

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IN THE ACTUALS COLUMN, YOU CAN 

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SEE THE REVENUE AND EXPENDITURE 

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ESTIMATES WE'VE JUST REVIEWED, 

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AS WELL AS THE ADDITION OF $1.5 

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MILLION OF ENCUMBRANCES, 

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CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS THAT 

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REMAIN UNSPENT AT YEAR-END, AND 

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SERVE TO REDUCE THE ENDING FUND 

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BALANCE.

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OUR ADDITIONAL REVENUES COMBINED 

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WITH EXPENDITURE SAVINGS LESSEN 

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COUPLE BRENSES INCREASED OUR 

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GENERAL FUND RESERVE BALANCES BY 

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$8.4 MILLION.

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THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-25 ADOPTED 

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BUDGET FUNDS THE GENERAL FUND 

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CONTINGENCY RESERVE AT THE CITY 

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COUNCIL POLICY LEVEL OF 16.7% OF 

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BUDGETED EXPENDITURES AND 

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TRANSFERS OUT.

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CONSISTENT WITH THE MINIMUM 

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RECOMMENDED BY THE GOVERNMENT 

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FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.

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THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE IS 

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PRIMARILY INTENDED TO PROVIDE 

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IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE 

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AND ENSURE SERVICE CONTINUITY IN 

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THE FACE OF A MAJOR DISASTER.

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THE BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE 

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ON THE OTHER HAND IS INTENDED TO 

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SERVE AS A KIND OF SHOCK 

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ABSORBER TO DEAL WITH CYCLIC 

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ECONOMIC DOWNTURNS AND CHANGES 

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IN OUR COST STRUCTURE.

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THE COUNCIL ADOPTED POLICY FOR 

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RESERVES FUNDED AT A LEVEL 

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CONSISTENT WITH THE REVENUE AND 

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EXPENDITURE UNCERTAINTY OVER THE 

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THREE-YEAR FORECAST PERIOD.

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WITH THE GOAL OF PROVIDING 

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SUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN 

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SERVICE LEVELS WHILE GIVING THE 

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CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND 

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TO ITS BUDGETARY CHALLENGES.

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AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 

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2023-24, THE STATE'S PARTIAL 

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RECOVERY OF MISALLOCATED SALES 

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TAX AND ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE 

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LOWER LEVEL OF ONGOING REVENUE 

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HAVE CONSUMED THE $21.9 MILLION 

[Captioner] 19:59:05
UNRESERVED ENDING FUND BALANCE 

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FROM FISCAL YEAR 2022-23 AND 

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REDUCE THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET 

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UNCERTAINTY RESERVE FROM $30 

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MILLION TO $24.2 MILLION.

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THE GENERAL FUND FORECAST 

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INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 

[Captioner] 19:59:23
2024-25 ADOPTED OPERATING BUDGET 

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PROJECTS THAT THE MAJORITY OF 

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THE BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE 

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WILL BE USED DURING THE CURRENT 

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FISCAL YEAR TO OFFSET THE SECOND 

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HALF OF THE STATE'S SALES TAX 

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RECOVERY.

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THE RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE 

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CITY COUNCIL TO IMPLEMENT THE 

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ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET ALSO 

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INCLUDES AUTHORIZATION FOR THE 

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CITY MANAGER TO TAKE CERTAIN 

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ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION 

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ACTIONS, BUT WITH THE 

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REQUIREMENT TO REPORT BACK ON 

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THESE ACTIONS AT YEAR END.

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THE AMOUNT OF INCREASED 

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APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 

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2023-24 DUE TO UNEXPENDED PRIOR

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 YEAR ENCUMBRANCES IS $36.7 

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MILLION.

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THE MAJORITY OF THAT CARRYOVER, 

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$28.8 MILLION, WAS IN THE 

[Captioner] 20:00:14
CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS, OR 

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REIMBURSEMENT GRANT FUNDS, WITH 

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ANOTHER $1.2 MILLION IN THE 

[Captioner] 20:00:17
GENERAL FUND.

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IN ADDITION TO APPROPRIATING THE 

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ENCUMBRANCE BALANCES, THE CITY 

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MANAGER ALSO APPROVED THE 

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APPROPRIATION OF UNANTICIPATED 

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GRANT AND FEE REVENUES THAT WERE 

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RECEIVED DURING THE FISCAL 

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YEAR.

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THE MAJORITY OF THAT WAS $3 

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MILLION OF FEDERAL AND STATE 

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GRANTS, FEES FOR CONTRACTUAL 

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SERVICES, AND PRIVATE 

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CONTRIBUTIONS, PRIMARILY FOR 

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HOMELESS AND HOUSING-RELATED 

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SERVICES.

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IN SUMMARY, THE COMBINATION OF 

[Captioner] 20:00:52
HIGHER REVENUE AND GREATER 

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EXPENDITURE SAVINGS THAN WHAT WE 

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HAD BUDGETED ALLOWED US TO 

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FINISH THE YEAR WITH $24.2 

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MILLION IN THE BUDGET 

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UNCERTAINTY RESERVE.

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A PORTION OF THAT RESERVE WILL 

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BE USED TO OFFSET THE STATE'S 

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RECOVERY OF OVERPAID SALES TAX 

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DURING THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

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WE PLAN TO PRESENT THE MID-YEAR 

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BUDGET REPORT ON MARCH 4TH AND 

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THE PROPOSED OPERATING BUDGET 

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FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR ON MAY 

[Captioner] 20:01:21
13TH.

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THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 

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PROPOSED BUDGET WILL BE HELD ON 

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JUNE 3RD, WITH THE SECOND PUBLIC 

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HEARING AND BUDGET ADOPTION 

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SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 10TH.

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I'VE COMPLETED MY PRESENTATION, 

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AND WILL RETURN THE FLOOR TO THE 

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VICE MAYOR FOR QUESTIONS AND 

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DISCUSSION.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK YOU.

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WOULD YOU GUYS MIND IF WE TAKE 

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ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT 

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BACK SO YOU HAVE MORE TIME?

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THANK YOU.

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DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: WE DO.

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KELLY ABREU, FOLLOWED BY JOHN 

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HINDS.

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MR. ABREU HAS PROVIDED A HANDOUT 

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WHICH I'LL DISTRIBUTE NOW.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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2 MINUTES, PLEASE.

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>> IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ON THE

[Captioner] 20:02:16
 VIDEO HERE, THIS IS HDL 

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COMPANIES.

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THIS IS A SPECIALIZED CONSULTANT 

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THAT YOU'VE HAD FOR 10 OR 20 

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YEARS, THAT YOU PAY THEM TO 

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ANALYZE SALES TAX REVENUES AND 

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FIND IRREGULARITIES, AND I 

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GUARANTEE YOU THAT THEY ANALYZED 

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AND FOUND THE SALES TAX 

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IRREGULARITY THAT PROBABLY 

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AMOUNTED TO, YOU KNOW, $5 

[Captioner] 20:02:37
BILLION OF TAXABLE REVENUES, 

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THAT'S NOT AN EXAGGERATION, 

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THAT'S AN ACTUAL -- NOT -- 

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TAXABLE TRANSACTIONS, SO THAT'S 

[Captioner] 20:02:46
POINT NUMBER ONE.

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NOW HERE'S ANOTHER HANDOUT.

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THIS IS THE HANDOUT THAT THE 

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CITY COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO 

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LOOK AT.

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YOU SEE THAT TODAY, THE

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 POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THOSE 

[Captioner] 20:03:02
SLIDES THAT JUST SHOWED UP, THE 

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POLICE DEPARTMENT UNDERSPENT 

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THEIR BUDGET BY $15 MILLION AND 

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THEY'VE DONE THAT FOR ABOUT 

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THREE YEARS IF A ROW, 10 OR $15 

[Captioner] 20:03:10
MILLION UNDERSPENDING.

[Captioner] 20:03:11
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

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HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING?

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SO MANAGEMENT QUESTIONS SHOULD 

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ARISE FROM THREE CONSECUTIVE 

[Captioner] 20:03:23
YEARS OF UNDERSPENDING.

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WHY IS THE INITIAL BUDGET 

[Captioner] 20:03:27
CONSISTENTLY OVERESTIMATED?

[Captioner] 20:03:32
IS IT DELIBERATELY PADDED, USING 

[Captioner] 20:03:34
OVERLY CONSERVATIVE COST 

[Captioner] 20:03:35
PROJECTIONS, IS THERE ADEQUATE 

[Captioner] 20:03:36
FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT OVERSIGHT?

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SHOULD THE CITY'S INDEPENDENT 

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ACCOUNTANTS STUDY THIS?

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IS THE DEPARTMENT FULLY STAFFED 

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OR ARE POSITIONS REMAINING 

[Captioner] 20:03:46
UNFILLED, ARE TRAINING PROGRAMS 

[Captioner] 20:03:46
BEING UNDERUTILIZED?

[Captioner] 20:03:49
ARE HIRING PROCESSES 

[Captioner] 20:03:50
UNNECESSARILY SLOW OR 

[Captioner] 20:03:51
RESTRICTED?

[Captioner] 20:03:53
IS RESPONSE TIME MEETING 

[Captioner] 20:03:54
STANDARDS DESPITE 

[Captioner] 20:03:55
UNDERSPENDING?

[Captioner] 20:03:56
ARE ALL SHIFTS ADEQUATELY 

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EQUIPPED AND STAFFED?

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IS THERE EXCESSIVE OVERTIME THAT 

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OVERWORKS POLICE OFFICERS?

[Captioner] 20:04:05
ALL THESE QUESTIONS, NO OTHER

[Captioner] 20:04:07
 POLICE DEPARTMENT UNDERSPENDS 

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THEIR BUDGET THAT MUCH.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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I'M NOT SURE WE CAN GET TO 

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ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS 

[Captioner] 20:04:15
TONIGHT, BUT WE DO HAVE YOUR 

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HANDOUT, AND WE WILL DO OUR BEST 

[Captioner] 20:04:17
TO RESPOND TO YOU.

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THANK YOU.

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>> HELLO, EVERYONE.

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I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT 

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RESERVES.

[Captioner] 20:04:28
WE HAVE SEVERAL RESERVES IN 

[Captioner] 20:04:31
THERE WITH DIFFERENT PURPOSES 

[Captioner] 20:04:32
AND DIFFERENT DESCRIPTIONS.

[Captioner] 20:04:37
THERE'S A CONTINGENCY RESERVE 

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AND A BUDGET UNCERTAINTY 

[Captioner] 20:04:38
RESERVE.

[Captioner] 20:04:40
THOSE NAMES KIND OF GIVE AWAY 

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WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR, AND IT'S 

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NOT SURPRISING WHEN WE SEE THEM 

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MOVING UP AND DOWN IN BIG 

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AMOUNTS, AS SITUATIONS CHANGE.

[Captioner] 20:04:49
THERE'S A VERY DIFFERENT RESERVE 

[Captioner] 20:04:51
IN THERE, THOUGH, WHICH IS THE 

[Captioner] 20:04:52
ACCRUED LEAVE LIABILITY 

[Captioner] 20:04:52
RESERVE.

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THAT ONE SOUNDS TO ME LIKE A 

[Captioner] 20:04:57
MUCH MORE SPECIFIC PURPOSE.

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THE RESERVES SHOULD TIE TO BE 

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SOMETHING MORE NARROWLY DEFINED, 

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LIKE WHAT'S OUR BEST ESTIMATE OF 

[Captioner] 20:05:06
HOW MUCH ACCRUED BUT UNPAID 

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VACATION WE OWE PEOPLE.

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AND IT'S ODD TO ME TO SEE IT 

[Captioner] 20:05:13
MOVING IN SUCH BIG AMOUNTS, BUT 

[Captioner] 20:05:14
MAYBE 10 MILLION ISN'T SUCH A 

[Captioner] 20:05:16
BIG AMOUNT FOR THAT, BUT -- SO 

[Captioner] 20:05:17
ANOTHER WAY JUST TO LOOK AT THIS 

[Captioner] 20:05:18
QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE THINK IS 

[Captioner] 20:05:20
THE BEST ESTIMATE NOW OF HOW 

[Captioner] 20:05:23
MUCH WE OWE FOR ACCRUED LEAVE 

[Captioner] 20:05:24
LIABILITY, AND DOES IT MAKE 

[Captioner] 20:05:27
SENSE FOR TO MOVE UP AND DOWN 

[Captioner] 20:05:29
THIS WAY TO BE TRANSFERRED TO 

[Captioner] 20:05:29
OTHER RESERVES?

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THANK YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

[Captioner] 20:05:33
YOU.

[Captioner] 20:05:34
DID YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT 

[Captioner] 20:05:39
QUESTION NOW OR WOULD YOU LIKE

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 TO --

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>> Mr. Persselin: SURE, I'D BE 

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HAPPY TO.

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IN FISCAL YEAR 22-23, WHEN WE 

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WERE BENEFITING FROM WHAT WE 

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LATER LEARNED WAS ABOUT $20 

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MILLION OF OVERPAID SALES

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 TAX, WE DESAIDED TO USE A 

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PORTION OF THAT, $15 MILLION, TO 

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FUND AN ACCRUED LEAVE LIABILITY 

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RESERVE.

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HISTORICALLY, THE CITY HAS PAID 

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ITS LEAVE LIABILITY, WHICH IS 

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ESSENTIALLY CASHING OUT THE 

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ACCRUED LIABILITY RELATED TO 

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LEAVES OVER A CAREER WHEN PEOPLE 

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SEPARATE FROM CITY SERVICE, WE 

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WERE DOING THAT ON WHAT'S CALLED 

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A PAY AS YOU GO BASIS.

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SO WE HADN'T ACTUALLY SET ASIDE 

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ANY MON' FOR IT.

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 MONEY FOR IT, WE WERE SIMPLY 

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PAYING IT AS PART OF OUR ONGOING 

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OPERATIONS.

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SIMILAR TO OUR PENSION AND 

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RETIRE REHEALTHCARE OBLIGATIONS, 

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IT'S GENERALLY BETTER TO TRY TO 

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PRE-FUND THESE TYPES OF 

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OBLIGATIONS BECAUSE THEY 

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INCREASE OVER TIME.

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SO THINKING THAT WE HAD MORE 

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MONEY THAN IT TURNS OUT IN 

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RETROSPECT THAT WE DID, WE 

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ESTABLISHED AN ACCRUED LEAVE 

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LIABILITY RESERVES IN THE AMOUNT 

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OF $15 MILLION DURING FISCAL 

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YEAR 22-23, $15 MILLION WAS AN 

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ESTIMATE AT THE TIME OF WHAT WE 

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THOUGHT THAT LIABILITY MIGHT 

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BE.

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SINCE THEN, OF COURSE, WE'VE 

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LEARNED THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE AS 

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MUCH MONEY AS WE THOUGHT WE DID, 

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AND THAT IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE 

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PRUDENT TO KEEP THAT FULL AMOUNT 

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SITTING IN THE ACCRUED LEAVE 

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LIABILITY RESERVE, WHERE WE PAY 

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OUT MAYBE 2 OR $3 MILLION A

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 YEAR, AND HAVE TO CUT SERVICES 

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TO THE COMMUNITY.

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SO WE RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY 

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COUNCIL AS PART OF THE MID YEAR 

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BUDGET REVIEW LAST YEAR AND THE 

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CITY COUNCIL TOOK THE ACTION TO 

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MOVE $10 MILLION OF THE 15 BACK 

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TO THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET 

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UNCERTAINTY RESERVE.

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NOW I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT EVERY 

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YEAR, THE WAY THAT THIS RESERVE 

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FUNCTIONS, SIMILAR TO OUR 

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PENSION AND RETIREE

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 HEALTHCARE PRE-FUNDING IS THAT 

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WE DO A CALCULATION IN EACH 

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OPERATING FUND IN THE CITY TO 

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DETERMINE HOW MUCH DURING THAT 

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YEAR NEW LEAVE WAS ACCRUED, AND 

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THAT AMOUNT COMES OUT OF THE 

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OPERATING BUDGET OVER TO THE 

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ACCRUED LEAVE LIABILITY 

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RESERVE.

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SO EVERY YEAR, WE'RE PUTTING 

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MONEY INTO THAT ACCRUED LEAVE 

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LIABILITY RESERVE.

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WE ARE, IN FACT, DOING THAT THIS 

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YEAR.

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SO IT'S NOT THE CASE THAT WE 

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HAVE A LUMP SUM THAT'S GOING TO 

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BE DRAWN DOWN OVER TIME BUT 

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RATHER THAT WE'RE CONTINUALLY 

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ADDING TO THAT RESERVE TO 

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MAINTAIN IT AT THE LEVEL WHERE 

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IT NEEDS TO BE.

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AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, IT 

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MAY BE THE CASE THAT WE CAN ADD 

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ADDITIONAL AMOUNTS TO TRY TO 

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BUILD UP THAT ACCRUED LEAVE 

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LIABILITY RESERVE, BUT FOR NOW, 

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IT'S MORE THAN ADEQUATELY FUNDED 

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TO ACCOMPLISH ITS PURPOSE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> VICE MAYOR, WE RECEIVED ONE 

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MORE PUBLIC SPEAKER FOR THIS 

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ITEM.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: WOULD 

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THE COUNCIL BE OKAY TO TAKE THAT 

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ONE?

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YES.

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OKAY, THANK YOU.

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>> SALIM

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 MASTON.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE 

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PRESENTATION.

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DO WE HAVE A LOAN OR A

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 LIABILITY ON THE CITY OF 

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FREMONT, AND IF SO, HOW MUCH?

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NUMBER TWO, THE FUNDS THAT WE 

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HAVE, ARE THEY EARNING ANY 

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PROFIT OR INTEREST?

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OR THEY ARE JUST SITTING IN THE 

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BANK?

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AND THE LAST QUESTION IS, THE 

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UTILITY BILL THAT WE HAVE FOR 

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FREMONT, IS IT $25 MILLION A 

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YEAR?

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THE UTILITY BILLS, PG & E?

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: HE MAY 

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NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE ALL THE 

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ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS RIGHT 

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NOW SO --

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>> SO WHATEVER THE UTILITY 

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BILLS, I THINK IT'S AROUND 25 OR 

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$30 MILLION --

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: WE DON'T 

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WANT TO MISSTATE THAT ACTUAL 

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AMOUNT.

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HE CAN GIVE TO YOU LATER, THAT 

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WOULD BE FINE.

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>> THAT WOULD BE OKAY.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> MY POINT IS THAT ON THE

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 HILLS, BEHIND THE HILLS, IF WE 

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PUT UP SOLAR PANELS ALL ALONG 

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THE HILL, NOT FACING FREMONT, 

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BUT FACING THE OTHER WAY, WE CAN 

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SAVE THE UTILITY BILLS PLUS WE 

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CAN GENERATE INCOME FOR THE CITY 

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OF FREMONT.

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THOSE HILLS, THERE'S A MEASURE T 

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OR SOMETHING MEASURE THAT YOU 

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CANNOT DO ANYTHING ON THE HILLS, 

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BUT IF YOU ARE ON THE BACK SIDE 

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OF THE HILLS, WHICH IS FACING 

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THE SUN RISING, WE CAN REDUCE 

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OUR UTILITY BILLS TO ZERO OR 

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EARN INCOME FROM THAT.

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AND MY LAST POINT IS, WHAT ARE 

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THE COMPARISONS OF THE REVENUES 

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AND THE EXPENSES OF CITIES 

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AROUND THE COUNTRY ON A 

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SAME-SIZE BASIS SO WE WOULD 

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UNDERSTAND ARE WE DOING A GOOD 

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JOB, WE ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT 

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JOB OR, NO, WE ARE NOT UP TO THE 

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MARK.

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SO IF THE DEPARTMENT CAN DO 

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THIS, I --

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU 

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WITH SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

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I'M GOING TO BRING THIS -- I'M 

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GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC 

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COMMENT PERIOD FOR THIS ITEM, 

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AND BRING THIS BACK TO THE 

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COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS AND 

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COMMENTS.

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I'M NOT GOING TO DO QUESTIONS 

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AND THEN COME BACK TO COMMENTS, 

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SO PLEASE DO BOTH, YOUR 

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QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AT THE 

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SAME TIME, PLEASE.

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AND I'LL START WITH 

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: THANK 

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YOU, MR. PERSSELIN.

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APPRECIATE THE DETAILED 

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DISCUSSION.

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I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE ON 

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ACCRUED LEAVE.

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THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.

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SO YOU MENTIONED THAT WE HAD A 

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PAY AS YOU GO SYSTEM AND WE WERE 

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PRE-FUNDING IT WITH $15 MILLION, 

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$10 MILLION WAS TAKEN OUT.

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WHAT IS THE TOTAL LIABILITY THAT 

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WE NEED TO FUND?

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IS IT THE FULL 15 OR WHAT IS THE 

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LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THAT?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO AS PART OF 

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THE ANNUAL AUDIT, WE UPDATE THE 

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ACCRUED LEAVE LIABILITY, THE 

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LIABILITY FOR COMPENSATED 

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ABSENCES, WHICH IS REPORTED IN 

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THE NOTES TO THE FINANCIAL 

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STATEMENTS.

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WE'RE CALCULATING THAT RIGHT NOW 

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SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT 

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NUMBER, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE IN 

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THE BALLPARK OF 13 TO $14 

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MILLION.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: OKAY.

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SO IF WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY IN THE 

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FUTURE, WE CAN PRE-FUND IT AGAIN 

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AS WE GET MORE REVENUES COMING 

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IN?

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>> Mr. Persselin: THAT WOULD BE 

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A GOOD THING TO DO.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: THEN 

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YOU MENTIONED WE HAD AN 8 MIM 

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 8 MILLION INCREASE IN THE 

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BUDGET RESERVE, YOU DIDN'T 

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SPECIFY BUT I'M ASSUMING THE 

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BUDGET UNCERTAINTY RESERVE?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO THE $8.4 

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MILLION, ABOUT 1.3 OF THAT 

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ACTUALLY WENT TO THE CONTINGENCY 

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RESERVE, WITH THE REMAINING 

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PORTION TO THE BUDGET 

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UNCERTAINTY RESERVE.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: THEN 

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THE SECOND PAYMENT OF THE SALES 

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TAX, IS THAT 9 MILLION OR 10 

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MILLION?

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I FORGOT THE NUMBER.

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>> Mr. Persselin: THAT'S ABOUT 

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RIGHT, IT'S ABOUT $9.7 MILLION.

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AS I MENTIONED IN OTHER 

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PRESENTATIONS, IN ADDITION TO 

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THE AMOUNT THAT THE STATE IS 

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TAKING BACK, WE WILL ALSO 

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RECEIVE PROPORTIONALLY LESS OF 

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THE SALES TAX ALLOCATION FROM 

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THE COUNTY POOL IN THAT QUARTER 

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AS WELL.

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SO AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WILL 

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ACTUALLY BE REDUCED IS PROBABLY 

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CLOSER TO $12 MILLION.

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 IN TOTAL.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: AND 

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THAT PAYMENT IS DUE IN THE FIRST QUARTER 2025?

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>> Mr. Persselin: THAT'S 

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CORRECT, SO WE'LL BE GETTING 

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THAT ALLOCATION AROUND THE MONTH 

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OF NOVEMBER.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: OKAY.

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AND THEN I THINK I KNOW THE 

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ANSWER, THE UNDERSPENDING ON 

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POLICE, I ASSUME IT'S BECAUSE WE 

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FUND FOR 200 -- 300 POLICE 

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OFFICERS, IT'S ALWAYS A 

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CHALLENGE TO FILL ALL THE SEATS, 

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IS THAT CORRECT?

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>> Mr. Persselin: YEAH, THERE'S 

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-- ABOUT 12 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS 

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OF THE 15 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS 

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SAVINGS IS, IN FACT, RELATED TO 

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VACANCY SAVINGS.

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AND THAT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH 

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SWORN STAFF AND NON-SWORN 

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STAFF.

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SO WHILE THERE ARE A LARGE 

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NUMBER OF SWORN VACANCIES, THERE 

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ARE ALSO A LARGE NUMBER ON 

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AVERAGE OF NON-SWORN VACANCIES.

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I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THERE'S 

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ALSO SAVINGS THERE RELATED TO 

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THE DELAY IN IMPLEMENTATION OF 

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THE SOFTWARE SYSTEM THAT I 

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TALKED ABOUT.

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AS WELL AS

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 THE REALLOCATION OF I.T. 

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OPERATING COSTS WHEN WE LOOKED 

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AT IT, WE DETERMINED THAT WE 

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DIDN'T NEED TO ACTUALLY ALLOCATE 

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AS MUCH AS WHAT WAS IN THE 

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BUDGET.

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SO -- AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT 

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HAS A RELATIVELY LARGE COMPONENT 

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OF THAT.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: GOOD, 

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THANK YOU.

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I UNDERSTAND THE FORECASTING, WE 

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WANT TO BE CONSERVATIVE, WE 

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DON'T WANT TO BE TOO LIBERAL 

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BECAUSE YOU'RE IN A WORSE 

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SITUATION WHEN YOU'RE PROJECTING 

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TOO HIGH.

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IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO BE MORE 

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CONSERVATIVE SO YOU CAN BALANCE 

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ANY EXPENSES SO I DO LIKE THAT 

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POLICY.

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SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTION ON 

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THIS ITEM, IT'S JUST INFORMATION 

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ONLY, CORRECT?

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>> Mr. Persselin: THAT'S 

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CORRECT.

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>> Councilmember Salwan: THANK 

[Captioner] 20:15:32
YOU SO MUCH.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: NEXT UP 

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IS COUNCILMEMBER COX.

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>> Councilmember Cox: THANK YOU 

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VERY MUCH, VICE MAYOR.

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CAMPBELL.

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I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I 

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WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH AS 

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ALWAYS ON YOUR DETAILED REPORT.

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ONE OF THEM IS THAT WITH THE -- 

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YOU REPORTED OUT A $1.3 MILLION

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 OF THE REIMBURSEMENT THAT CAME 

[Captioner] 20:15:59
IN FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL.

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IS THAT A PARTIAL AMOUNT OR IS 

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THAT THE FINAL PAYMENT OF 

[Captioner] 20:16:04
REIMBURSEMENT THAT WE ARE 

[Captioner] 20:16:04
RECEIVING?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO WE'VE 

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RECEIVED THE FULL AMOUNT THAT 

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WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE FOR THE 

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COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

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SO THAT IS, IN FACT, CLOSED OUT, 

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THAT WAS -- THAT CAME IN AT JUST 

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UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH 

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WAS THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHAT WE 

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HAD REQUESTED.

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WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF 

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WORKING WITH FEMA ON THE 2023 

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WINTER STORM REIMBURSEMENTS, SO 

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I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE MIGHT 

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GET MORE THERE.

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>> Councilmember Cox: OKAY.

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MY OTHER QUESTION IS, COULD YOU 

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EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON 

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WHAT IS MEANT BY THE TRUE-UP AND 

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THE DEPARTMENTAL ALLOCATIONS TO 

[Captioner] 20:16:45
THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY 

[Captioner] 20:16:45
OPERATIONS INTERNAL SERVICE 

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FUND, THAT'S A LONG SENTENCE 

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THERE, BUT WHAT DOES THAT REALLY 

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MEAN?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO AS YOU MAY 

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KNOW, ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, 

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ALL OF OUR ACTIVITIES USE 

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INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, 

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AND SO EACH OF THEM CONTRIBUTES 

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EVERY YEAR TO OUR INTERNAL 

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SERVICE FUND, OR IT OPERATIONS.

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THE CONTRIBUTIONS, THOUGH, ARE 

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BASED ON CALCULATIONS THAT ARE 

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DONE, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW MANY 

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COMPUTERS THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, 

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PER DEPARTMENT, OR THE TYPES OF 

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SOFTWARE THAT ARE USED.

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AS I MENTIONED, FOR EXAMPLE, THE 

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POLICE DEPARTMENT USES VARIOUS 

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TYPES OF SOFTWARE SO THEY GET 

[Captioner] 20:17:31
CHARGED DIRECTLY FOR THOSE 

[Captioner] 20:17:31
ITEMS.

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WHAT WE HAD DETERMINED AT A 

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CERTAIN POINT DURING THE YEAR 

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WAS THAT DUE TO PRIOR-YEAR 

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VACANCY SAVINGS, AS WELL AS SOME 

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SAVINGS ON SOME OF OUR SOFTWARE 

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COSTS, WE REALLY DIDN'T NEED TO 

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PULL AS MUCH AS WE WERE PULLING 

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FROM THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE 

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CURRENT YEAR.

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SO WE ESSENTIALLY CUT SHORT HOW 

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MUCH EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS WAS 

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CONTRIBUTING TO THE I.T. AS 

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OPERATIONS FUND BECAUSE 

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OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE SIMPLY 

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BEEN BUILDING UP A VERY LARGE 

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FUND BALANCE THERE, AND TAKING 

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MONEY FROM THE OPERATING

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 DEPARTMENTS DELIVERING SERVICES 

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TO THE COMMUNITY.

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>> Councilmember Cox: THANK YOU 

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SO MUCH FOR EXPLAINING THAT IN 

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DETAIL THAT I COULD FOLLOW IT.

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MY LAST QUESTION IS, DO YOU 

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PROJECT ANY LAYOFFS OVER THIS 

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COMING YEAR?

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>> Mr. Persselin: I DON'T 

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PROJECT ANY LAYOFFS OVER THE 

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NEXT YEAR.

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>> Councilmember Cox: THANK 

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YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU, COUNCILMEMBER COX.

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NEXT UP, COUNCILMEMBER 

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KIMBERLIN.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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THANK YOU.

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GREAT BRIEFING ON THAT, AND 

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GETTING DOWN ON THE DETAILS A 

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LITTLE BIT MORE.

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IT'S ONE THING TO READ IT BUT 

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IT'S ANOTHER THING TO HEAR YOU 

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TALK ABOUT IT.

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THANK YOU.

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A COUPLE QUESTIONS I HAVE, ONE 

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DEALING WITH SOME FEEDBACK WE 

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HEARD TONIGHT.

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DO WE COMPARE OUR BUDGET TO 

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OTHER CITIES' BUDGETS THAT DO 

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HAVE MANY POLICE VACANCIES?

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I KNOW WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY 

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WHO DEALS WITH THAT.

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DO WE EVER COMPARE THAT WITH 

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OTHER CITIES?

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AS FAR AS WHAT DO THEY DO WITH 

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THEIR FUNDS COMPARED TO WHAT WE 

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DO WITH OUR FUNDS THAT ARE THE 

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EXCESS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE 

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VACANCIES?

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>> Mr. Persselin: SO EVERY CITY 

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IS UNIQUE.

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EVERY CITY HAS ITS OWN MIX OF 

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REVENUES.

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AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, MANY OF OUR 

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SURROUNDING CITIES HAVE PUT ON 

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THE BALLOT THINGS LIKE SALES TAX

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 OVERRIDES OR UTILITY TAXES, 

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OTHER REVENUE SOURCES.

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YOU MAY ALSO BE AWARE THAT

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 UNDER PROP 13, DIFFERENT CITIES 

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RECEIVE A DIFFERENT SHARE OF 

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PROPERTY TAX REVENUES.

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SO EACH OF US HAS A VERY UNIQUE 

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REVENUE PROFILE.

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WE ALSO PROVIDE A UNIQUE SET OF

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 SERVICES, SO SOME OF US PROVIDE 

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LIBRARY SERVICES, SOME OF US 

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PROVIDE UTILITIES, AND SO ON.

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IN THE BACK OF OUR BUDGET 

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DOCUMENT, YOU'LL FIND A 

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COMPARISON OF OUR STAFFING 

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LEVELS COMPARED WITH OUR SIMILAR 

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CITIES IN THE REGION.

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AND WE'VE TRIED TO TRUE THAT UP 

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TO TRY TO SHOW IT ON AN APPLES 

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TO APPLES BASIS TO GIVE YOU A 

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SENSE OF OUR STAFFING.

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SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL 

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SEE IN THAT CHART IS THAT WE 

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HAVE A PRETTY LOW LEVEL OF PER 

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CAPITA STAFFING COMPARED WITH 

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MANY OF THE OTHER CITIES IN OUR 

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AREA.

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SO WE DO DO THAT TYPE OF A

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 COMPARISON.

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IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE A 

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LOT OF SENSE TO JUST LOOK AT RAW 

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REVENUE OR EXPENDITURE NUMBERS, 

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BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, EACH 

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MUNICIPALITY IS DIFFERENT.

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WITH RESPECT TO THE VACANCY 

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SAVINGS, IT'S FAIRLY COMMON TO 

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MAKE AN ESTIMATE OF VACANCY 

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SAVINGS FOR THE YEAR AND BUDGET 

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THAT AMOUNT.

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THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO LEAVE IT 

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UNBUDGETED.

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SOMEBODY WAS MENTIONING EARLIER

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 THAT -- WHY ARE WE 

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OVERBUDGETING?

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WELL, WE'RE BUDGETING FOR 

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POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE.

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AND TO THE EXTENT WE HAVE 

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VACANCIES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 

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SAVINGS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

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AND BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE GOING 

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TO HAVE SAVINGS AT LEAST AT SOME 

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LEVEL ON AN ONGOING BASIS EVERY 

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YEAR, IT SEEMS TO MAKE MORE 

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SENSE TO BUDGET A PORTION OF 

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THAT TO PROVIDE SERVICES RATHER 

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THAN WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE 

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YEAR AND HAVE A PILE OF MONEY 

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THAT WE DIDN'T USE FOR SERVICES 

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DURING THE YEAR.

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SO IT'S NOT -- LIKE I SAID, IT'S 

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NOT AN UNCOMMON PRACTICE TO 

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BUDGET FOR VACANCY SAVINGS.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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THANK YOU.

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: I'LL 

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ALSO ADD TO THAT THAT JUST AS A 

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REMINDER, OVER THE YEARS WE'VE 

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PRETTY CONSISTENTLY ADDED 

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POSITIONS TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY 

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DEPARTMENTS IN ANTICIPATION OF 

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HAVING THOSE POSITIONS FILLED, 

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OF COURSE.

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BUT AS DIRECTOR PERSSELIN 

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MENTIONED, WE'RE NOT ALWAYS 

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SUCCESSFUL IN FILLING THOSE 

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POSITIONS, PARTICULARLY IN THE 

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POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THAT'S 

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SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SAY WE'VE 

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ANALYZED WITH OUR NEIGHBOR AND 

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CITIES HERE IN ALAMEDA COUNTY 

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AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, 

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QUITE HONESTLY.

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SO IT'S A PROBLEM THAT WE'VE HAD 

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FOR QUITE SOME TIME THAT WE 

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CONTINUE TO TRY TO ADDRESS.

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THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR BUDGET, 

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OUR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, ARE 

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ALLOCATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND 

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MAINTENANCE, SO BOTH POLICE AND 

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FIRE AND MAINTENANCE, AND TO THE 

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EXTENT THAT WE DON'T SPEND FUNDS 

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OR WE OVERSPEND OVER THE YEAR, 

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THOSE FUNDS ARE THEN RETURNED TO 

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THE GIN FUND FOR FUTURE 

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CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL ON 

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HOW TO ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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THANK YOU.

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I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

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ON THE WINTER STORM 

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REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS, DO WE EVER 

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KNOW HOW THAT IS SPENT AND WHAT 

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WAS REPAIRED AND WHAT IS DONE 

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WITH THE FUNDS THAT WE GOT FOR 

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THE WINTER STORM 

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REIMBURSEMENTS?

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>> SO THE REIMBURSEMENTS ARE 

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EXPENDITURES THAT WERE MADE.

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MOST OF THE REIMBURSEMENTS THAT 

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WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR IS FOR THE 

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IMMEDIATE DEBRIS CLEAN-UP 

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PORTION.

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SO THERE ARE ALSO PROJECTS, I 

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MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE CITY 

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COUNCIL ALLOCATED SEVERAL 

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MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE 

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 CONTINGENCY RESERVE TO

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 HELP PAY FOR SOME OF THE 

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PROJECTS THAT WILL REQUIRE MORE 

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WORK.

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WE'RE WORKING WITH FEMA TO 

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DETERMINE WHICH OF THOSE MIGHT 

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BE ELIGIBLE, SO AT THE END OF 

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THE DAY, IT'S NOT CLEAR YET 

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BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE ARE 

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LONG-TERM ENDEAVORS.

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SO IT MAY BE THE CASE THAT

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 IF FEMA DETERMINES THAT HAVE 

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SOME OF THOSE THINGS AREN'T 

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ELIGIBLE, WE MAY NOT PURSUE THEM 

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OR WE MAY PURSUE THEM AT A LOWER 

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LEVEL THAN WE WOULD HAVE IF FEMA 

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SAID WE'LL REIMBURSE YOU FOR 

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THIS, BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE 

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THINGS ARE QUITE EXPENSIVE TO 

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CLEAN UP.

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>> Councilmember Kimberlin: 

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OKAY, THANK YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell: THANK 

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YOU.

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CLERK GAUTHIER, DO WE HAVE ANY 

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COMMENTS FROM MAYOR MEI OR 

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO -- I'M SORRY, 

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I'M JUST CHECKING, AND I KNOW 

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YOU'RE -- I SEE YOU NEXT, BUT 

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CAN I JUST CHECK IN TO SEE

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 IF THEY HAVE RAISED HANDS?

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>> Ms. Gauthier: COUNCILMEMBER 

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SHAO.

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>> Councilmember Keng: THANK YOU 

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VERY MUCH FOR THE REPORTS.

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VERY GOOD TO KNOW THAT FREMONT 

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IS IN GOOD FINANCIAL STANDING.

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ESPECIALLY AFTER RECOVERING FROM 

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THAT OVERPAID SALES TAX THAT'S 

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QUITE A LARGE NUMBER TO PAY 

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BACK, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO RECOVER 

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PRETTY WELL WITH THAT.

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BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE 

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QUESTIONS.

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ONE IS I ALSO SHARE THE CONCERN 

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ABOUT -- WELL, KIND OF THE 

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QUESTION RAISED EARLIER ABOUT 

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WHETHER WE'RE BEING OVERLY 

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CONSERVATIVE, ESPECIALLY IN THE 

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AREA WHERE THE VACANCY IS BEING 

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FILLED AND WHETHER -- CAN YOU 

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MAYBE GIVE AN ASSESSMENT OF OUR 

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CHANCES OF FILLING THE VACANCIES 

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THAT ARE POSTED SO THAT WE CAN 

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PERHAPS HAVE A MORE ACCURATE 

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BUDGETING?

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>> Mr. Persselin: I DON'T THINK 

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I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH AN 

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ASSESSMENT OF THE CHANCES OF 

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FILLING OUR VACANCIES.

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SO LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE THE 

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POSITIONS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL 

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HAS AUTHORIZED, AND I KNOW THAT 

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OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT 

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IS ACTIVELY PURSUING 

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RECRUITMENTS TO FILL THOSE 

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VACANCIES.

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BUT I CAN'T -- I CAN'T GIVE YOU 

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AN ASSESSMENT OF HOW LIKELY IT 

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IS THAT THOSE WILL BE FILLED.

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>> Councilmember Keng: OKAY, NO 

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PROBLEM.

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SO ARE WE DOING ANYTHING 

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DIFFERENT THAT WILL HELP US 

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ACHIEVE THOSE -- ACHIEVE THE 

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GOALS OF FILLING THOSE VACANCIES 

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SINCE WE SEE THAT IN THE LAST 

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FEW YEARS, WE HAD DIFFICULTIES 

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DOING SO AND I KNOW THAT IT'S 

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KIND OF A NATIONWIDE

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 SHORTAGE OF THE OFFICERS BEING 

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FILLED.

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DO WE HAVE ANY PROPOSED OR ANY 

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NEW STRATEGIES TO FILL THOSE 

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VACANCIES?

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: THE 

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SHORT ANSWER IS YES.

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AND WE ARE CURRENTLY IN 

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DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR HUMAN 

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RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AND OUR 

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POLICE STAFF TO

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 EXPLORE WAYS THAT MAY MAKE IT 

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MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR OFFICERS TO 

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COME HERE AND WORK IN THE CITY 

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OF FREMONT.

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SO THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE 

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UNDERWAY.

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>> Councilmember Keng: THANK YOU 

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VERY MUCH.

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SO PERHAPS YOU COULD SHARE WITH 

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US THOSE STRATEGIES AT A LATER 

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TIME OR --

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>> City Mgr. Shackelford: AT 

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LATER TIME, ONCE THE 

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NEGOTIATIONS HAVE BEEN 

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CONCLUDED.

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>> Councilmember Keng: THANK 

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YOU.

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THEY DO SAY THAT INSANITY IS 

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DOING THE SAME THING AND 

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EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS, 

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RIGHT?

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SO ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, 

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IF YOU COULD SHARE, I SEE THAT 

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WE'RE ALLOTTING -- IS IT 1.3 

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MILLION TO THE NAVIGATION CENTER 

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AND 1.0 MILLION TO ADDITIONAL 

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RESOURCES FOR HOMELESSNESS.

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CAN YOU SHARE WHAT KIND OF A

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 LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL HOW I 

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KNOW THE 1.3 MILLION FOR THE 

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NAVIGATION CENTER IS MORE 

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SPELLED OUT, WHAT IT'S IN USE 

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FOR, BUT HOW ABOUT THE ONE POINT 

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-- THE 1 MILLION FOR 

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HOMELESSNESS RESOURCE, IF I READ 

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-- IF I SAW IT CORRECTLY?

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WHAT WILL IT BE USED FOR, 

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BECAUSE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING A NEW 

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ORDINANCE OF MORE PARKING 

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RESTRICTIONS AND WHERE ARE WE 

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SENDING THE PEOPLE AND HOW WE'RE 

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USING THAT FUND TO HELP

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>> David Persselin:   I DON'T 

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KNOW IF ANYONE FROM THE HUMAN 

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SERVICES OR HOMELESS STAFF ARE 

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AVAILABLE TO TALK IN MORE DETAIL 

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ABOUT THOSE GRANTS, AND  

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DONATIONS.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   I 

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THINK WE COULD PROBABLY NOT BE 

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ABLE TO ANSWER THAT BUT THERE 

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WERE GRANTS.

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I THINK YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS 

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AND NOT ON THE PRESENTATION, 

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YOU'RE LOOKING AT --

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>> Councilmember Keng:   IT IS 

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LIKE THE PRESENTATION THE SECOND 

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OR THE LAST.

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>> David Persselin:   THE SECOND 

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TO THE LAST THE MANAGER 

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AUTHORIZED TO RECEIVING GRANTS 

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BUT I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE 

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SPECIFICS OF WHAT THOSE GRANTS 

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WERE NECESSARILY GOING TO BE 

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USED FOR BEYOND I KNOW HOMELESS 

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NAVIGATION CENTER, PART OF THE 

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HOMELESS NAVIGATION CENTER 

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OPERATIONS WAS A BIG PIECE OF  

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IT.

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>> Karena Shackelford:   YES, 

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THAT WAS PROBABLY THE IS VAST 

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MAJORITY OF IT AND WE CAN 

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PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAILS TO 

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THE COUNCIL.

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>> Councilmember Keng:   THANK 

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YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   YOU 

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HAD MORE?

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YOU ARE DONE?

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OKAY.

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO.

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>> Councilmember Shao:   THANK 

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YOU, MADAM VICE MAYOR.

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I HAVE SOME COMMENTS.

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THIS IS STARTING TO LEARN THAT 

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AFTER THE AUDIT WE FOUND THAT 

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THE -- OUR NUMBER IS ONLY ABOUT 

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1.2 MILLION DIFFERENT THAN OUR 

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PRODUCTION FOR OUR CURRENT YEAR 

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OPERATION BUDGET.

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THAT MEANS THAT WE ALL HAD A 

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VERY GOOD STARTING POINT FOR 

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JUST CURRENT FINANCIAL YEAR.

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SO THAT IS, SECONDLY IS THAT I

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 JUST WANT TO ONCE AGAIN FOR THE

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 PUBLIC THAT THE CITY

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 AND ITS STAFF ARE IN ATTENDANCE 

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OF EACH OTHER, THE SCHOOL 

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DISTRICT IS FACING A HUGE 

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DEFICIT AND NEEDS TO CUT BUDGET 

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BY TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

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IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO KNOW 

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THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ALWAYS 

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PUT THE FINANCIAL STABILITY

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 AND FINANCIAL ABILITY AS OUR 

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OVERALL PRIORITY.

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AND THAT CERTAINLY IS HOW THE 

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CITY COUNCIL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 

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ALL THE OBLIGATIONS

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 THAT THIS CITY HAS TO OUR 

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RESIDENTS.

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SO IT IS A TEAM EFFORT FROM CITY 

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COUNCIL TO STAFF TO ENSURE THAT 

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THE CITY IS FINANCIALLY SOLVENT 

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AND ALSO IN GOOD SHAPE  

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CURRENTLY, BUTTER ALSO IN THE 

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PROJECTABLE FUTURE.

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HAVING SAID THAT, I ALSO WANT TO

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 ENCOURAGE THE CITY STAFF TO 

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LOOK AT OUR CURRENT VACANCY, 

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ESPECIALLY ALL THOSE POSITIONS 

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THAT ARE NOT PUBLIC SAFETY 

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RELATED POSITION IS, BUT AT A 

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PART TIME TO FILL OUT IN LONG 

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TERM TO FIGURE OUT A WAY EITHER 

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TO EVALUATE OR TO RESTRUCTURE

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 THE CURRENT VACANCY

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 POSITIONS SO THAT WE CERTAINLY 

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CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T 

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REPEAT THE YEAR AFTER YEAR 

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REGARDING THOSE VACANCIES, BUT 

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WROR IMPORTANTLY, FACING THE 

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UPCOMING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE 

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AND ALSO, THE CHANCE THAT PEOPLE

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 ARE NO LONGER WORKING AT HOME, 

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THEY ARE COMING TO OFFICE,

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 AFTER YEARS OF

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 CONDEMNING, THE CITY STAFF IS 

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WISE TO HAVE EVALUATION IN TERMS

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 OF EFFICIENCY, WE KNOW THAT

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 FLOM NECESSITATED TO BE THE 

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HEAD OF THE

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 REGION IN THE FEDERAL LEVEL, I 

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WANT TO SAY THAT TREATMENT  

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UNLIKE MANY OTHER CITIES IN OUR 

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NEIGHBORHOOD IS WELL-KNOWN FOR 

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OUR EFFICIENCY BY THE POSITION 

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PER CAPITA IN OUR CITY 

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GOVERNMENT.

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AND FOR THAT I'M VERY PROUD THAT 

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WE ARE RUNNING THE CITY 

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GOVERNMENT AT HIGH EFFICIENCY.

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BUT IN THE LONG RUN WITH THE 

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INTRODUCTION OF NEW TECHNOLOGY 

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AS WELL AS SOME OTHER TRENDS, WE 

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CERTAINLY NEED TO HAVE SOME 

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EVALUATION IN OUR CURRENT EFFORT 

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OF RECRUITMENT AND ALSO THE

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 CURRENT STRUCTURE WITHIN SUCH 

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DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF WE CAN 

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EFFICIENTLY ADDRESS THOSE 

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VACANCIES THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE 

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NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY

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.

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THAT'S THE COMMENT I WOULD LIKE 

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TO MAKE.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   THANK 

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YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SHAO.

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DOES MAYOR MEI HAVE ANY  

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COMMENTS?

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>> Mayor Mei:   YES.

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THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO 

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GIVE AN UPDATE.

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I KNOW THAT IT IS CONSTANTLY A 

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MOVING TARGET AND I AM GLAD THAT 

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WE WERE OPERATING UNDER THE 

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PRINCIPLES OF CREATING GREATER 

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RESERVE AS WITH THE LAST COUPLE 

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OF YEARS I THINK WITH THE  

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UNANTICIPATED IMPACT OF COVID 

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AND STORMS AND OTHER THINGS 

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WE'VE BEEN FISCALLY PRUDENT.

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I WOULD ECHO SOME OF THE 

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SENTIMENT I KNOW FROM THE PUBLIC 

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AND JUST IN GENERAL THAT WHERE 

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WE CAN WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO 

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UTILIZE THE REVENUE TO HELP 

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SERVE OUR COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE 

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THE BEST QUALITY OF SERVICES AS 

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POSSIBLE.

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BUT I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY WE'VE 

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KEPT SOME OF THOSE RESERVES AND 

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THOSE HAVE SERVED US WELL IN 

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THESE MOMENTS OF UNCERTAINTY.

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I ALSO AM INTERESTED IN FINDING 

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OUT HOW WE CAN HELP AND I KNOW 

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THAT THAT'S WHY WE ARE IN THE 

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PROCESS OF DISCUSSING HOW WE CAN 

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BETTER FULFILL THE VACANCIES, I 

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ALSO THINK IT WAS A WISE 

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DECISION FOR US TO START PUTTING 

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THE SET ASIDE WHEN WE THOUGHT WE 

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HAD SOME MONEY AND FUNDING TO 

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HELP ADDRESS THE UNACCRUED OR UN

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 UNUTILIZED VACATION AND SOME OF 

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THE OTHER AFTER SEPARATION OF 

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OUR EMPLOYEES I THINK THAT'S A 

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FISCALLY PRUDENT METHODOLOGY.

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I KNOW THAT FROM JANUARY

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 TOO WE'LL ALSO, WHEN WE ARE 

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LOOKING AT THE LAST SLIDE 

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TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET, IN 

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JANUARY WE'LL GET THE 

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PRELIMINARY GOVERNOR'S PLAN SO 

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WE WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD OUT A 

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LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF THE 

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NEXT YEAR.

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OVERALL, I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT 

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WE REMAIN FISCALLY CONFIDENT 

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THAT WE PAY DOWN UNINTENDED 

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LIABILITY.

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THAT WE CONTINUE TO SET ASIDE 

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FOR RESERVES AND IT'S HARD FOR 

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THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND.

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I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT I'VE 

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HEARD SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS FOR 

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THE PEOPLE WANTING TO MAKE 

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COMPARATIVE AGENCIES THAT AGAIN 

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SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE 

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IT IS NOT AN APPLES TO APPLES 

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COMPARISON AS YOU MENTIONED.

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THE FUNDING FROM PROP 13 VARIES, 

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SOME OF THOSE ASSOCIATED 

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SERVICES AND GUIDANCE AS HOW 

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EACH CITY HAS ADDRESSED HOW 

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THEY'D LIKE TO STRUCTURE THEIR 

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RESERVES AND ACCRUALS, SO I 

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THINK THERE THE PERSPECTIVE OF 

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WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO INCLUDE, 

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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD 

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LOVE TO ALSO HAVE FOR THE NEXT 

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YEAR AND THE BUDGET CYCLE, WE 

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HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE 

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PAST, IS WE'VE ENGAGED THE 

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PUBLIC, AND WE'VE ALWAYS TRIED 

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TO BE DOING MORE OUTREACH.

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BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE 

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WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT 

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ARE COMING FROM THE AUDIENCE, 

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MAYBE ALSO HAVING SOME OF THE 

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OUTREACH THAT IS GOING OUT TO 

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SOME OF THE DISTRICTS, AND SO 

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THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT 

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PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDING.

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I KNOW PARTICIPATORY

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 BUDGET IS NOT EASY AND WE TRY

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 TO MAKE PEOPLE PARTICIPATE 

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BEFORE WE MAKE THE ALLOCATIONS 

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NOT AFTER, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE 

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MORE EFFORTS IN THAT AREA AS 

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COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

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AND ALSO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER 

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SHAO FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

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I WANTED TO MAKE SURE AGAIN I 

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KNOW YOU ALREADY NOTED THAT THE 

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BUDGET FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT 

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AND THE CITY ARE SEPARATE.

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BUT IT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT FOR 

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PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT 

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SEPARATE MEANING THAT WE CANNOT 

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TAKE THE TAXPAYERS MONEY, THOSE 

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OF TWO DIFFERENT BUCKETS IN THE 

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WAY THEY OPERATE.

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IT IS THOUGHT THAT THE CITY 

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DOESN'T CARE ABOUT SCHOOLS OR 

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STUDENTS OR ENROLLMENT OTHER 

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THINGS, THAT THINGS THAT ARE 

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SEPARATELY GOVERNED AND THOSE 

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FUND SOURCES ARE DIFFERENT, 

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CAN'T BE ALLOCATED AND THOSE 

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LINES ARE NOT ONES THAT CAN BE 

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BLURRED AND THAT'S JUST TO 

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CLARIFY FOR THE PUBLIC TO 

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UNDERSTAND WHERE

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 THINGS ARE UTILIZED FOR THAT.

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I ALSO WANT TO SPEAKING OF  

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HOMELESSNESS, I KNOW THERE ARE 

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SOME COMMENTS EARLIER RELATING 

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TO PARKING, FUNDS IN THAT AREA 

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AS WE RELATE TO THE BUDGET, 

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WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY 

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MEMBERS CONCERNS WITH BEING, 

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ADDRESSING SOME OF THE 

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ENCAMPMENTS AND THE CLEANUPS 

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WHICH WE'VE PUT FUNDING TOWARDS 

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BUT ALSO I KNOW OUR HUMAN 

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SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS NOT ON 

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THE CALL TODAY, RIGHT NOW ON 

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THIS ITEM.

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BUT THAT WE ALSO SET ASIDE SOME

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 RESERVES FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE 

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SO THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE 

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CARROT AND STICK AND THE BALANCE 

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OF THOSE TWO AND THE SERVICES 

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THAT WE PROVIDE THAT WE ARE ABLE 

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TO TO BE ABLE TO FUND SOME OF 

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THOSE.

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BECAUSE THAT IS A CHALLENGE THAT 

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WE LOOK AT EVERY TIME, THAT WE 

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MAKE WHETHER IT'S A CLEANUP 

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POLICY THAT WE MAKE WITH 

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ENCAMPMENTS AND AABATEMENTS BUT 

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ALSO IN TERMS OF THE SERVICES 

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PIECE OF IT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE 

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INCREASING SOME OF THOSE 

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RESPONSIVENESS HAVING THOSE 

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FUNDS SET ASIDE AND LOOKING IN 

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COLLABORATION WITH OUR HUMAN 

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SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO 

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UNDERSTAND HOW WE PREPARE FOR 

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THE NEXT YEAR.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE REPORT 

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AS ALWAYS AND TO THE TEAM FOR 

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YOUR HELP.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   THANK 

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YOU, MAYOR MEI.

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I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER THANK YOU 

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FOR THE GREAT PRESENTATION.

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I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO GET 

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THROUGH THIS TO BE ABLE TO SPEND 

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MORE TIME.

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I JUST HAVE ONE, COUPLE OF QUICK 

[Captioner] 20:40:09
QUESTIONS.

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ONE IS ABOUT THE ENCUMBRANCE YOU 

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HAVE MENTIONED, THAT THERE ARE 

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QUITE A BIT OF THOSE AND IT WAS 

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A LARGE NUMBER.

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HAVE WE ALREADY FULFILLED THOSE

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 DRT OBLIGATIONS FOR THAT FISCAL 

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YEAR, OR IS IT CARRIED OVER TO 

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THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR?

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>> David Persselin:   SO THE 

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ENCUMBRANCE PLANS THAT I TALKED 

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ABOUT IN THE STAFF REPORT WAS 

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AGAIN THE CONTRACTS OBLIGATIONS 

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THAT WE HAD -- CONTRACTUAL 

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OBLIGATIONS THAT WE HAD AT THE

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 REMAINING YEAR OF 22-23 THAT 

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WERE COVERED OVER TO FISCAL YEAR 

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23-24.

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THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE WILL 

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HAVE EITHER BEEN EXROISHED AND 

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PAID, IN SOME CASES WE DON'T 

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HAVE TO PAY SO MUCH AND THEN WE 

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DO WHAT WE CALL CLEAT THE 

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REMAINING BALANCE OF THE 

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ENCUMBRANCE.

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THERE WILL BE ENCUMBRANCES FROM 

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FISCAL YEAR 23-24 CARRIED OVER 

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TO FISCAL YEAR 24-25.

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AND THOSE WILL BE REPORTED ON AS 

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PART OF NEXT YEAR'S YEAR END 

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REPORT.

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AS I MENTIONED, THE GENERAL 

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FUND, THE AMOUNT FOR THE GENERAL 

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FUND IS $1.5

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 MILLION BUT AGAIN THE BULK OF 

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THESE THINGS TEND TO BE 

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CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS IN THE 

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CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS.

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SO IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, THE 

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OPERATING FUNDS HAVE MUCH 

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SMALLER LEVELS OF ENCUMBRANCE 

[Captioner] 20:41:22
BALANCES TO CARRY FORWARD.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   

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GREAT.

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AND THEN YOU MENTIONED I HEARD 

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YOU SAY RESIDENTIAL IN THE 

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BUSINESS TAX AREA, OR THAT 

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RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS  

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DOWN.

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SO ARE WE ANTICIPATING THAT THAT 

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NUMBER IS GOING TO GO UP?

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DON'T WE GET DEVELOPER FEES FOR 

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THAT, THAT SHOULD OFFSET THE

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 AMOUNT THAT WE DIDN'T GET IN 

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THAT BUSINESS TAX AREA?

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>> David Persselin:   SO NOT 

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FREMONT MUNICIPAL CODE WE HAVE A 

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LARGE NUMBER OF CATEGORIES OF 

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BUSINESS TAX TYPES.

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ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESS 

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TAX, AND THIS IS SEPARATE FROM 

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DEVELOPMENT FEES OR FEES THAT WE 

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CHARGE FOR DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS 

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THE BUSINESS TAX THAT'S CHARGED 

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TO CONTRACTORS OR SUBCONTRACTORS 

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WHO DO WORK WITHIN THE CITY OF 

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FREMONT.

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THEY ONLY ARE CHARGED FOR WORK 

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THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING IN 

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THE CITY.

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AND IN MANY CASES THESE 

[Captioner] 20:42:30
CONTRACTORS OR SUBCONTRACTORS 

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ARE LOCATED OUTSIDE THE CITY OF 

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FREMONT.

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SO THEY ONLY PAY BUSINESS TAX TO 

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US WHEN THEY'RE WORKING ON 

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RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION 

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PROJECTS.

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SO THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST 

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VOLATILE COMPONENT OF OUR 

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BUSINESS TAX BECAUSE IT EBBS AND 

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FLOWS WITH RESIDENTIAL 

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CONSTRUCTION, ACTUAL 

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CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.

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WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION 

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OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, A 

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LOT OF RELATED TO WARM SPRINGS, 

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AS THAT'S STARTED TO DECLINE 

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WE'RE SEEING A DECLINE IN THE 

[Captioner] 20:43:08
RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION 

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BUSINESS TAX COMPONENT OF OUR 

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REVENUE.

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AGAIN IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO 

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PROJECT THE YOAF PROJECTED 

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FISCAL YEAR 23-24, SO AT THE END 

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OF THE YEAR AGAIN THE  

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UNDERPERFORMANCE IN THE BUSINESS 

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TAX CATEGORY IS REALLY DUE TO 

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LOWER THAN ANTICIPATED 

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RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION 

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BUSINESS TAX REVENUE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   SO 

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THAT'S THE TAX THAT YOU GET LIKE 

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A CONTRACTOR COME AND PUT A NEW 

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BATHROOM IN YOUR HOUSE OR IF THE 

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AUD'S IS THAT PART OF THAT 

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BUCKHOUT ALSO OR IS IT A 

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DIFFERENT BUCKET?

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>> David Persselin:   IT IS ANY 

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CONTRACTOR DOING CONSTRUCTION 

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WORK WITHIN THE CITY.

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SO IT COULD BE, FOR SOMEBODY 

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COMING IN TO DO AN ADU BUT MOST 

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OF THAT MONEY IS TYPICALLY 

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COMING FROM LARGER DEVELOPMENT 

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PROJECTS WHERE THEY'RE 

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CONSTRUCTING A NEW APARTMENT 

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COMPLEX, FOR EXAMPLE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   I SEE, 

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THANK YOU FOR THAT.

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AND YOU ANSWERED THE QUO ABOUT 

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THE VACANCIES BEING CARRIED OVER 

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AND THE RECOVERY IS GOING TO BE 

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CARRIED OVER, PAID ON THE FIRST 

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QUARTER OF 25-26.

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>> David Persselin:   I'M SORRY, 

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OF 24-25.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   OH,  

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24-25.

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SO IT'S BEEN PAID ALREADY?

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SO WE NO LONGER OWE THEM ANY 

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MORE MONEY?

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>> David Persselin:   WELL, WE 

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BASICALLY NO LONGER OWE THEM ANY 

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MORE MONEY.

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HOWEVER THE WAY SALES TAX IS 

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PAID OUT BECAUSE IT TAKES THEM A 

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WHILE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT SALES 

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TAX THEY'VE COLLECTED DURING THE 

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QUARTER, THE SALES TAX TRUE-UP 

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WHERE WE REALLY GET THE MONEY 

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THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FOR THE 

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QUARTER, THAT ENDED SEPTEMBER 

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30th, COMES AT THE END OF 

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NOVEMBER.

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SO SOMETIME AROUND THE END OF 

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THIS MONTH WE'RE GOING TO HEAR 

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FROM THE STATE.

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THEY'LL TELL US WHAT WE ACTUALLY 

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RECEIVED, AND THAT WILL BE NET 

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OF THAT SECOND HALF RECOVERY.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   OKAY, 

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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WELL I SEE NO OTHERS IN THE 

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QUEUE.

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THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT 

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PRESENTATION.

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I'M SORRY -- CITY MANAGER?

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>> Karena Shackelford:   YES, 

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MAY I RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF 

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QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT I 

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HEARD FROM YOUR COUNCIL 

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COLLEAGUES?

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   

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ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.

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>> Karena Shackelford:   SO 

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT ON 

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THIS TOPIC.

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WE APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS AND 

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THE COMMENTS.

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ONE THING THAT I WANT TO RESPOND 

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TO, I TOLD YOU ALL THAT I WOULD 

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RESPOND TO COUNCILMEMBER KENG'S 

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QUESTION LATER REGARDING THE 

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ADDITIONAL FUNDING, GRANT 

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FUNDING RELATED TO HUMAN 

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SERVICES PROGRAMS.

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SO ADDITIONAL FUNDING WAS ADDED 

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FOR THE WINTER SHELTER LAST 

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FISCAL YEAR.

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AND FOR AN EXPANSION OF PROGRAMS 

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RELATED TO THE WINTER SHELTER.

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IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE RECEIVED 

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GRANT FUNDS FROM SENATOR WAJAB 

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AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER LEE THAT 

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WERE DEDICATED TO THE OPERATION 

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OF THE HOMELESS NAVIGATION 

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CENTER.

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AND THEN FINALLY WITH REGARD TO 

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THE COMMENTS BY COUNCILMEMBER 

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SHAO, REGARDING VACANCIES AND 

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EVALUATING THE VACANCIES THAT WE 

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HAVE, MOST OF THE ON THIS

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 POLICE VACANCIES ARE BEING 

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FILLED.

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SO WE'RE SEEING CANDIDATES WHERE 

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THOSE POSITIONS, AND THOSE 

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POSITIONS ARE BEING SUCCESSFUL 

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 FILLED.

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THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR  

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VACANCIES AND THE VACANT SAVINGS 

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THAT WE DO SEE ARE COMING 

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UNFORTUNATELY FROM THE POLICE 

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DEPARTMENT.

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SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT 

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CLARIFICATION FOR YOU ALL.

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THANK YOU.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   THANK 

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YOU VERY MUCH.

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OKAY, SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS 

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WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM ON THE 

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REGULAR AGENDA WHICH IS THE 

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APPOINTMENTS OF BOARDS AND 

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COMMISSIONS.

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I WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR MAYOR

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 MEI'S REFERRALS AND IF THERE 

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ARE NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS --

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>> MAYOR MEI --

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   THAT 

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IS WHAT IT SAYS, CONSIDERATION 

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OF MAYOR MEI REFERRAL, 

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APPOINTMENT AND REAPPOINTMENT TO 

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ADVISORY BODIES.

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>> The Clerk:   HER HAND IS 

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RAISED.

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>> Mayor Mei:   THAT'S ALL I WAS 

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GOING TO SAY, THAT I'M GOING TO 

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STATE THAT SOME OF THESE ARE 

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REAPPOINTMENT AND THEY ARE ALSO 

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NEW APPOINTMENTS AND I WANTED TO 

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ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO APPLY.

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BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO 

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HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS 

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PARTICIPATE AND WE ALSO ARE 

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FORMING A NEW BOARD IN TERMS OF 

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THE REVIEW PROCESS.

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AND THESE ARE THE LIST OF 

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CANDIDATES THAT I'M PROPOSING.

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AND SO IF I COULD GET -- UNLESS 

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SOMEONE HAS ANOTHER QUESTION  OR 

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-- SO I CAN GET A MOTION?

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   YES, 

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JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE.

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COUNCILMEMBER COX.

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>> Councilmember Cox:   I WAS 

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GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.

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SO MOVE WITH THE  

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RECOMMENDATIONS.

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>> Councilmember Keng:   

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SECOND.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   OKAY, 

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN.

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OKAY.

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SO BY A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER 

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COX, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER 

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KENG, I SEE NO ADDITIONAL 

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COMMENTS.

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PLEASE PREPARE TO VOTE.

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ROLL CALL PLEASE.

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>> The Clerk:   COUNCILMEMBER 

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COX, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SALWAN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER SHAO, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KIMBERLIN, AYE.

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COUNCILMEMBER KENG, AYE.

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VICE MAYOR CAMPBELL, AYE.

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MAYOR MEI.

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AYE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   OKAY 

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AND THE MOTION CARRIES.

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AND THE LAST THING THAT WE HAVE 

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ON THE AGENDA IS ANY COMMITTEE 

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ASSIGNMENTS OR REPORTS THAT ANY 

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COUNCILMEMBER -- I SEE 

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COUNCILMEMBER COX, YOU'RE STILL 

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IN THE QUEUE.

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ARE YOU DONE?

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>> Councilmember Cox:   I'M  

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DONE.

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>> Vice Mayor Campbell:   OKAY 

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COOL.

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ARE THERE ANY OTHER CLOSING 

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COMMENTS?

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SEEING NONE, MEETING ADJOURNED.